Merger Decision Expected Within 30 Days!

RBC Capital analyst David Bank has told clients to expect a decision from the Department of Justice within 30 days and that the deal is more likely to receive their approval than not. This isn’t the final decision as the FCC will also need to rule, but given the announcement of tiered pricing plans which the current FCC chairman favors, it is unlikely they will vote contrary to the DOJ’s decision.

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  1. There's been a LOT of insider trading going on this week.
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    Originally Posted by badmotherfarker View Post
    There's been a LOT of insider trading going on this week.
    Yes, two XMSR directors have purchased over $3.5M worth of XMSR between the two of them.
  3. Gonna be interesting to watch the stocks if/when this merger goes through. For years now the market has been keeping its distance from both of them. I'll be curious to see if there's a big, sustained jump or if the market still stays back and waits for profitability.
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    Originally Posted by badmotherfarker View Post
    Gonna be interesting to watch the stocks if/when this merger goes through. For years now the market has been keeping its distance from both of them. I'll be curious to see if there's a big, sustained jump or if the market still stays back and waits for profitability.
    Yep the stock will go up and the level of service will go down and the subs will be the ones that get fucked.
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    Originally Posted by Fergz99 View Post
    Yep the stock will go up and the level of service will go down and the subs will be the ones that get fucked.

    while your predicting the future can you tell me next weeks lotto numbers!
  6. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Fergz99 View Post
    Yep the stock will go up and the level of service will go down and the subs will be the ones that get fucked.

    since your predicting the future can you tell me next weeks lotto numbers!
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    Originally Posted by Fergz99 View Post
    Yep the stock will go up and the level of service will go down and the subs will be the ones that get fucked.
    The way you're always trashing Sirius, one would think that the level of service can't get any worse. So what's to lose?

    Your opinion is just that, an opinion. Your proclamation is meaningless.

    If the NAB thought a merger would actually make things worse, they would be SUPPORTING it, instead of spending millions of dollars and thousands of manhours trying to defeat it.

    Sirius/XM management, the NAB, a former chairman of the FCC, and the significant majority of Siri/XM subscribers who've studied the issue---are all convinced the merger is a good and mutually beneficial thing. And I agree with them.

    By virtually all indications, the DOJ and FCC will make their decisions this year. They're moving surprisingly fast for government entities. Sometimes these types of decisions can take a couple years or more to be decided.
  8. That said, lets look into the future. Stock is going up, good news about the merger. I hope it goes through. I am excited to try some XM stuff.
  9. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Serious_Sirius View Post
    The way you're always trashing Sirius, one would think that the level of service can't get any worse. So what's to lose?

    Your opinion is just that, an opinion. Your proclamation is meaningless.

    If the NAB thought a merger would actually make things worse, they would be SUPPORTING it, instead of spending millions of dollars and thousands of manhours trying to defeat it.

    Sirius/XM management, the NAB, a former chairman of the FCC, and the significant majority of Siri/XM subscribers who've studied the issue---are all convinced the merger is a good and mutually beneficial thing. And I agree with them.

    By virtually all indications, the DOJ and FCC will make their decisions this year. They're moving surprisingly fast for government entities. Sometimes these types of decisions can take a couple years or more to be decided.
    So tell me oh Mr Informed one what is so good ?

    They aren't combining the bandwidth and the two current sets of radios can't receive the other signal. The ala carte options that they have released do not give you a chance to pick and chose between the two services.

    Give me details on what is so great and how I as a dual sub will benefit from this merger Go ahead and convince me.
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    Originally Posted by Fergz99 View Post
    So tell me oh Mr Informed one what is so good ?

    They aren't combining the bandwidth and the two current sets of radios can't receive the other signal. The ala carte options that they have released do not give you a chance to pick and chose between the two services.

    Give me details on what is so great and how I as a dual sub will benefit from this merger Go ahead and convince me.
    In the long term, radios WILL receive both signals, opening up the option to select from a much larger pool of programming. This merger is for the long term. Short term, we will probably not see much changes until they roll out ala carte, but even then we will still have much more innovation to come as a result of the merger.

    I fully expect there to be changes, and change isn't always good, but I think for the long run we will see innovative hardware and much more programming selection for the money.
  11. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Manco View Post
    In the long term, radios WILL receive both signals, opening up the option to select from a much larger pool of programming. This merger is for the long term. Short term, we will probably not see much changes until they roll out ala carte, but even then we will still have much more innovation to come as a result of the merger.

    I fully expect there to be changes, and change isn't always good, but I think for the long run we will see innovative hardware and much more programming selection for the money.
    Exactly. There is no immediate benefit, but boy if you just wait 5-10 years THEN it will be worth it. Not buying it. There is nothing that is better for the subs.

    I already get the best that both services have to offer and they aren't giving me any option to get all of the same channels I do now at a reduce price then what's the point ? So Mel, Howard, and the board members can cash in their stock at higher prices ? No thanks. Leave the services as they are.
  12. If this passes than our government has failed us (again).

    Of course, this is just one guy's opinion.
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    Originally Posted by SISO View Post
    If this passes than our government has failed us (again).

    Of course, this is just one guy's opinion.
    I only get sirius, and after the merger i would get the same service for the same price, how have I been harmed by the government? and people that want what I have plus a few xm stations can get that for less than paying the price of both.. it don't sound too bad.
  14. Quote:
    Originally Posted by SISO View Post
    If this passes than our government has failed us (again).
    Amen Brother!
  15. I still say no, because I won't get any MLB games on the sportster or anything, and i'm not buying a new radio. And programming will go down on music channels, wait and see.
  16. I think you people need to be made HUMBLE.
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    Originally Posted by rustytrombone View Post
    I think you people need to be made HUMBLE.
    Please elaborate
  18. You know the real deal is that no one has to convince anyone. This isn't up to us, this will be up the FCC Chairman and Commissioners. Rest assured not enough of you that are anti-merger bothered to let them know how you felt so your view here means very little in the final outcome of this decision.

    It is just like American's voting, we have less folks in this country vote than just about anywhere else in the free world. Getting folks to agree on something is hard enough, but then getting them into action to do something about it is next to impossible.

    I certainly did indeed write my letter of support for the merger! I wonder how many of you folks that are against it really let those that will vote on this even know. I bet it was no more than a hand-full from this forum that did so.
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    Originally Posted by DAB View Post
    ...I wonder how many of you folks that are against it really let those that will vote on this even know. I bet it was no more than a hand-full from this forum that did so.
    It is a lot easier to whine and express fears here than to actually write a letter. If the merger is approved, as it should be, the activists won again and the government acted as it should.
  20. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sirius_Rich View Post
    It is a lot easier to whine and express fears here than to actually write a letter. If the merger is approved, as it should be, the activists won again and the government acted as it should.
    I think people wrote in and expressed concerns.

    I am curious as to why you say "the goverment acted as it should." I know you own stock, so I would guess you are probably just for it for that reason. Surely you can't be for it if the reason is for the good of the consumer.
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    Originally Posted by SISO View Post
    Surely you can't be for it if the reason is for the good of the consumer.
    I own stock, and I think it will be good for the consumer. I'm not sure why you think it's not possible to think it could be good for the consumer. There are many consumer organizations that came out in favor of the merger. Many more than were apposed. Most of them probably don't own stock.
  22. Quote:
    Originally Posted by SISO View Post
    ....
    I am curious as to why you say "the goverment acted as it should." I know you own stock, so I would guess you are probably just for it for that reason. Surely you can't be for it if the reason is for the good of the consumer.
    Should the merger be approved, the government was not bought by the NAB and realized that satellite radio is just one of many sources of audio entertainment. As an example, as I sit here and type this response to you I have a choice to listen to an iPod, satellite radio, internet radio, audio content from my satellite TV provider, cell phone provided radio, AM, FM and HD radio. These choices are all within 15 feet of where I sit right now.

    Being selfish, I look forward to the merger so my dual subscription will cost less, the new company providing potentially more and better content, better hardware and with the increased competition; terrestrial radio will have to improve their content.

    It is none of your business what stock I own and you guess wrongly, but I will tell you I own a little WFT, SII, IBM, MSFT, WHQ, SIRI, AAPL, BAC, BHI, LSTR, MDR, MCD, XMSR, SLB, DEIX, SLB, MRK, PFE, APC, XOM, WMT and a few other equities and mutual funds. Which none have anything to do with what is best for the consumer.

    Now, why are you against the merger besides being afraid of change?
  23. I've posted these elsewhere but here are my reasons:

    1. Confusion, one of their "goals" of the merger is to reduce consumer confusion. If you've seen all the plans (especially the al a carte) you know this is not gonna happen.

    2. What they'll do to get the merger. They want this REALLY bad. It wouldn't surprise me to see them make agreements with the government that would actually hurt the product.

    3. Slowdown of innovation. They say they'll innovate, I call bs...Sirius could hardly innovate with the Stiletto 2, what makes you think they'll innovate when they aren't competing with each other.

    4. It is a monopoly. It is NOT a monopoly in the music industry, but it would be a monopoly in the satellite radio industry. Direct competition is important.

    5. The ala-carte is a rip-off if you want Stern.
  24. Quote:
    Originally Posted by SISO View Post
    I've posted these elsewhere but here are my reasons:

    1. Confusion, one of their "goals" of the merger is to reduce consumer confusion. If you've seen all the plans (especially the al a carte) you know this is not gonna happen.
    I agree there will be a natural amount of confusion, especially early on. But I predict satellite radio sales will climb because the consumer won't have to wonder "who" will be the winner in the marketplace.

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    2. What they'll do to get the merger. They want this REALLY bad. It wouldn't surprise me to see them make agreements with the government that would actually hurt the product.
    We pretty much already know what they will do to satisfy the regulators on this point. Ala Carte and lower prices, that's what they will do to get the deal. Both are good for consumers.

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    3. Slowdown of innovation. They say they'll innovate, I call bs...Sirius could hardly innovate with the Stiletto 2, what makes you think they'll innovate when they aren't competing with each other.
    You may have a small point here, but frankly xm hasn't been innovating much since the inno so I don't see how it could be any worse. They can pool their R&D dollars to come out with a combination radio which would be innovative. But they still have to win over the iPod and other mobile users so that should keep them innovating.

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    4. It is a monopoly. It is NOT a monopoly in the music industry, but it would be a monopoly in the satellite radio industry. Direct competition is important.
    Yes, but that doesn't mean that there isn't competition to provide the market balances needed to keep them offering compelling products and services.

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    5. The ala-carte is a rip-off if you want Stern.
    Just keep the package that you have, no change in price. How is that worse?
  25. Quote:
    Originally Posted by SISO View Post
    I've posted these elsewhere but here are my reasons:
    OK, now that you admit you are afraid of change and confused, is there really any concrete reason you do not want the merger to be approved?
  26. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sirius_Rich View Post
    OK, now that you admit you are afraid of change and confused, is there really any concrete reason you do not want the merger to be approved?
    Ah, classic Rich. Try to make you feel stupid.

    I think my reasons speak for themselves. Too bad you believe what Mel and co. says...you should know companies lie like lawyers.
  27. 1. I'm a Sirius customer.
    2. I became a Sirius stock holder, after having the product for a year.
    3. I'm a finance manager for an auto dealership.

    As a consumer I want the merger to be approved because I think hardware will be better quality and have more features. I think there will be room for more channels, more channels means more variety. As a stock holder I like the idea because it's going to send the stock soaring. Working in the car business I think car companies were holding out doing more factory installs to see which company would make it. Once the dust settles from the merger I think just about every company will have pre-installed sat rad on almost every model. Then we'll see things like presets, rewind, and record options in cars. Caddillac is putting this feature in the CTS this year and I think it will spread quickly to other models once sat rad becomes a standard feature.
  28. Quote:
    Originally Posted by SISO View Post
    Ah, classic Rich. Try to make you feel stupid.

    I think my reasons speak for themselves. Too bad you believe what Mel and co. says...you should know companies lie like lawyers.
    SISO,

    I feel bad for you if you really think you are stupid. Perhaps a few sessions with a professional on self esteem are in order.

    You did know that "companies" and "lawyers" go to jail for lying, correct? Both are held to strict standards. I suggest to read up on the Sarbanes-Oxley Act just to see what standards publicly traded "companies" are held.
  29. Quote:
    Originally Posted by River_King View Post
    1. I'm a Sirius customer.
    2. I became a Sirius stock holder, after having the product for a year.
    3. I'm a finance manager for an auto dealership.

    As a consumer I want the merger to be approved because I think hardware will be better quality and have more features. I think there will be room for more channels, more channels means more variety. As a stock holder I like the idea because it's going to send the stock soaring. Working in the car business I think car companies were holding out doing more factory installs to see which company would make it. Once the dust settles from the merger I think just about every company will have pre-installed sat rad on almost every model. Then we'll see things like presets, rewind, and record options in cars. Caddillac is putting this feature in the CTS this year and I think it will spread quickly to other models once sat rad becomes a standard feature.
    Now that is a good post.
  30. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sirius_Rich View Post
    SISO,

    I feel bad for you if you really think you are stupid. Perhaps a few sessions with a professional on self esteem are in order.

    You did know that "companies" and "lawyers" go to jail for lying, correct? Both are held to strict standards. I suggest to read up on the Sarbanes-Oxley Act just to see what standards publicly traded "companies" are held.
    You know exactly what I meant Rich, your little techniques won't work on me.

    Maybe lying wasn't the correct term, perhaps misleading is better...sort of like hidden fees. We won't raise prices*


    *for atleast a month (for example)
  31. SISO, time will tell if your worries are justified. I think other than major changes in programming over time, I think you will be surprised at how this merger will energize the company to compete on a larger scale. When they pool their resources for engineering, they will be able to better compete with all the new audio delivery systems coming out.
  32. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Manco View Post
    SISO, time will tell if your worries are justified. I think other than major changes in programming over time, I think you will be surprised at how this merger will energize the company to compete on a larger scale. When they pool their resources for engineering, they will be able to better compete with all the new audio delivery systems coming out.


    If the merger passes, and the winds in Washington are definitely blowing in that direction, the good from the merger will far outweigh the bad.

    Instead of having to engage in expensive content/advertising/hardware wars with each other, they will join forces to take on their far more powerful opponents like the Apple iPod, MP3 players, cellphone providers etc.

    Redundant channels will be combined, thus opening the door for the addition of channels for niche music that many people have been screaming for.

    How many times have we heard the mantra "I only have Sirius for Stern" or "I only have XM for baseball"?

    In the event of a merger, thousands of dual subscribers who are having to pay full price for both services, will be able to drop the regular monthly service of the company they don't prefer.

    They can then get Stern or baseball via an a la carte package that will cost less than half of what they're currently paying for the extra service. So a merger will actually save them money, because they won't be paying for 100+ channels they don't want.

    The fears that a single SatRadio provider will have an "absolute monopoly" that will enable them to drastically raise prices and get rid of numerous channels/genres---is a virtual paranoid delusion.

    A combined Sirius/XM will still have as much competition as they can handle from Apple, MP3 player manufacturers, online music services, cellphone service providers---etc. etc.

    If they jack up the price and cut way back on the music, many current subscribers would simply say "Adios SatRadio, Hello iPod/MP3 player/cellphone".
  33. All this hand wringing, nashing of teeth, needless speculation on will the merger, or won't the merger be approved, should never have happened in the first place. When Sirius and Xm first applied for approval as ONE service the FCC very unwisely forced them to split up. This cost shareholders, and yes, the subscribers, valuable additional program options and lower rates from the start. All the money spent by both Sirius and Xm (many millions) to lobby, try to gain political favor (by the NAB) etc. could have been avoided.
  34. Quote:
    Originally Posted by hazzar View Post
    All this hand wringing, nashing of teeth, needless speculation on will the merger, or won't the merger be approved, should never have happened in the first place. When Sirius and Xm first applied for approval as ONE service the FCC very unwisely forced them to split up. This cost shareholders, and yes, the subscribers, valuable additional program options and lower rates from the start. All the money spent by both Sirius and Xm (many millions) to lobby, try to gain political favor (by the NAB) etc. could have been avoided.
    People are people, they're going to speculate and debate. It's human nature.

    I agree with you completely that the FCC/government is the problem.

    I find it interesting (and hypocritical) that some of the very same people who are vehemently opposed to the FCC using its power to regulate what guys like Howard Stern can say on public radio, are the same ones who are ranting for the FCC to use its power to stop the merger.

    They're often also the ones who gripe loudest about Siri's shortcomings. The merger will actually address several of the very problems they're whining about, yet they're still opposed to it.

    In a country that is supposed to be a constitutional republic with a free-enterprise economic system, it shouldn't be any of the government's business if two companies decide to unite for mutually beneficial reasons. Just like they don't have any business telling radio talk show hosts what they can or can't say.
  35. Ok, some people are talking about how cutting costs because of not having to compete with each other. This will be true, however, I don't know why you are so positive they'll put this to R&D, content, etc. Sure, some may go to it but I bet most of it goes right in their pockets. If there's one thing I've learned is that you can't trust Sirius...the mods should especially know what I'm talking about.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Serious_Sirius View Post

    In a country that is supposed to be a constitutional republic with a free-enterprise economic system, it shouldn't be any of the government's business if two companies decide to unite for mutually beneficial reasons. Just like they don't have any business telling radio talk show hosts what they can or can't say.
    Woah, what???

    Yea, let any company merge that wants to. Let all the cell phone companies merge, all the computer companies, all the car companies, all the banks. See what happens...it wouldn't be pretty.
  36. Quote:
    Originally Posted by SISO View Post
    Ok, some people are talking about how cutting costs because of not having to compete with each other. This will be true, however, I don't know why you are so positive they'll put this to R&D, content, etc. Sure, some may go to it but I bet most of it goes right in their pockets.
    You have bought into the NAB argument that the only competitors XM and Sirius have are each other. I hope Sirius does put some of the cost savings into their pockets, because up until now, both companies have been losing money like crazy. A healthy company is good for consumers. An unhealthy company is generally bad because of program cancellations, out of date hardware, any number of issues.

    Everyone should want both a profitable company, and one that has real competitors like AM/FM, HD radio, iPod, internet radio etc.
  37. Quote:
    Ok, some people are talking about how cutting costs because of not having to compete with each other. This will be true, however, I don't know why you are so positive they'll put this to R&D, content, etc. Sure, some may go to it but I bet most of it goes right in their pockets. If there's one thing I've learned is that you can't trust Sirius...the mods should especially know what I'm talking about.
    They're probably not spending that much on R&D now, thanks to the high-dollar content battle they have to continually fight with each other. If even a portion of the hundreds of millions of dollars they've spent fighting each other over content, had been spent on R&D, we'd probably already have 30 gig devices with bluetooth and virtually every other significant technology, as well as longer life batteries etc. etc.

    We live in a high tech world where technology advances occur virtually daily. Those companies that either aren't able or refuse to invest in a good R&D program, will soon become irrelevant or even go completely out of business.

    It takes money to make money. I don't think Mel and the upper level management of both companies, are nearly as stupid and greedy as you seem to think they are.

    If they put all the money in their back pockets rather than invest some in R&D, they won't turn out high quality devices which attract new customers and keep current customers in the fold.

    Fewer customers means less business and very possibly bankruptcy. If the latter occurs, there will be no more money for them to put in their back pockets.

    The execs also have to answer to the stockholders, and I assure you they are an entity that will do everything they can to make sure bankruptcy doesn't happen. Thus you can count on the stockholders to press for more money for R&D.

    So the tired canard that management will "just put the money saved in their back pockets", is simply not realistic.

    Execs and stockholders know the importance of R&D to a successful company. They're not going to shoot themselves in the a$$ and lose their jobs and investments by refusing to spend money on R&D.
  38. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Serious_Sirius View Post
    Execs know the importance of R&D to a successful company. They're not oing to shoot themselves in the a$$ and lose their jobs and investments by refusing to spend money on R&D.
    Why not ? Recent history has shown they get paid regardless of performance, and if they get fired most have very well compensated severance packages. COEs have never cared about the consumer.

    The last thing they are concerned with in this merger is if it is in the best interest of the consumer.
  39. Manco and Rich have nailed it on the merger issue.

    There really aren't any relevant counter-arguments to what they've posted, mostly just chicken little arguments ranting about the alleged "threat" of a supposed "monopoly".

    Claiming that Sirius and XM would constitute a "threat" to the consumer, is ludicrous.

    You've got mass storage iPods selling by the millions, dozens of companies making MP3 players, numerous online companies offering download and/or subscription music, and all the major cellphone providers are offering music services through their networks. Not to mention CD's/CD players, which still sell pretty well, even though they've also taken a hit thanks to online music.

    Due to all the competition in the music provider business, even the mighty terrestrial radio industry has been forced to spend big bucks on R&D, in order to develop, improve and market HD Radio.

    The terrestrial radio execs and their stooges at the NAB KNOW that the Sirius-XM merger will be a GOOD thing for consumers. That's why they're spending millions of dollars and thousands of manhours fighting it so hard.

    If the merger was actually going to hurt the sat radio industry and consumers, the NAB would be SUPPORTING it. Because they know it would drive unsatisfied customers away from sat radio.
  40. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Serious_Sirius View Post
    Manco and Rich have nailed it on the merger issue.

    There really aren't any relevant counter-arguments to what they've posted, mostly just chicken little arguments ranting about the alleged "threat" of a supposed "monopoly".

    Claiming that Sirius and XM would constitute a "threat" to the consumer, is ludicrous.

    You've got mass storage iPods selling by the millions, dozens of companies making MP3 players, numerous online companies offering download and/or subscription music, and all the major cellphone providers are offering music services through their networks. Not to mention CD's/CD players, which still sell pretty well, even though they've also taken a hit thanks to online music.

    Due to all the competition in the music provider business, even the mighty terrestrial radio industry has been forced to spend big bucks on R&D, in order to develop, improve and market HD Radio.

    The terrestrial radio execs and their stooges at the NAB KNOW that the Sirius-XM merger will be a GOOD thing for consumers. That's why they're spending millions of dollars and thousands of manhours fighting it so hard.

    If the merger was actually going to hurt the sat radio industry and consumers, the NAB would be SUPPORTING it. Because they know it would drive unsatisfied customers away from sat radio.
    I'll ask you again explain to me how I as a dual sub will benefit from this merger. I already get the best programming both have to offer and they aren't offering a package to to get both services at a reduced price. So how do I, the consumer, benefit from this merger ?
  41. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Fergz99 View Post
    Why not ? Recent history has shown they get paid regardless of performance, and if they get fired most have very well compensated severance packages. COEs have never cared about the consumer. The last thing they are concerned with in this merger is if it is in the best interest of the consumer.
    Ah, yes. As I figured, the old socialist propaganda mantra of "all CEO's are evil, greedy men" has once again raised it's ugly head.

    If you understood business, you'd know that I'm not talking about them getting fired. I'm talking about BANKRUPTCY, a whole different animal.

    If a company goes bankrupt, the government steps in through the courts and takes ultimate control of the money the companies have. So the execs don't get the alleged huge compensation packages you speak of, when a company goes bankrupt.

    Also, your previous company going bankrupt under your leadership doesn't look terribly good on your resume. Not to mention the fact that Karmazin and several other execs of both Sirius and XM, own a substantial number of shares in their respective companies. So they stand to lose their large investments if the company goes belly up.

    Last but not least, the shareholders have more to lose than anybody if a merged company goes under. So they're going to fight tooth, fang and claw to keep Mel and the other execs honest.

    Merger opponents conveniently overlook the fact that the shareholders of BOTH companies have voted overwhelmingly to approve the merger. If they felt that this merger would lead the company to bankruptcy, they'd have voted it down in a quick minute. Many of them have made major investments in their respective companies, and they don't relish the thought of losing those investments to bankruptcy.

    Merger opponents try to cook up these paranoid delusions that Mel and the other execs only want this merger so they can screw the customers, and abscond with all the money. However, they overlook the hard fact that the shareholders have given strong support to the merger, even though they have the most to lose financially if the new company doesn't do well or goes bankrupt.
  42. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Serious_Sirius View Post
    ...Merger opponents conveniently overlook the fact that the shareholders of BOTH companies have voted overwhelmingly to approve the merger. If they felt that this merger would lead the company to bankruptcy, they'd have voted it down in a quick minute. Many of them have made major investments in their respective companies, and they don't relish the thought of losing those investments to bankruptcy.

    Merger opponents try to cook up these paranoid delusions that Mel and the other execs only want this merger so they can screw the customers, and abscond with all the money. However, they overlook the hard fact that the shareholders have given strong support to the merger, even though they have the most to lose financially if the new company doesn't do well or goes bankrupt.
    I don't believe that vote has occurred as of yet...do you have information to the contrary? Or is this a case of a merger proponent cooking up a paranoid delusion?
  43. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Fergz99 View Post
    I'll ask you again explain to me how I as a dual sub will benefit from this merger. I already get the best programming both have to offer and they aren't offering a package to to get both services at a reduced price. So how do I, the consumer, benefit from this merger ?
    Here's one way in which dual-subs (like both you and I are)benefit as consumers. Once merged, XM and Sirius will not be competing with each other for content. So instead of the NFL/NBA/MLB/NHL/NASCAR/Stern/O&A/etc. generating a bidding war with the "winner" sticking their subscribers with the increased tab, they'll be negotiating from a position of strength. Those savings may not generate lower bills (see the greedy CEO argument above) but will act as a break on future rate hikes.
  44. Quote:
    Originally Posted by RoadRunner View Post
    Here's one way in which dual-subs (like both you and I are)benefit as consumers. Once merged, XM and Sirius will not be competing with each other for content. So instead of the NFL/NBA/MLB/NHL/NASCAR/Stern/O&A/etc. generating a bidding war with the "winner" sticking their subscribers with the increased tab, they'll be negotiating from a position of strength. Those savings may not generate lower bills (see the greedy CEO argument above) but will act as a break on future rate hikes.
    Well can you show me an example of a price increase coming from a bidding war ? I mean Sirius didn't charge more when they got NASCAR.
  45. Quote:
    Originally Posted by HomieG View Post
    I don't believe that vote has occurred as of yet...do you have information to the contrary? Or is this a case of a merger proponent cooking up a paranoid delusion?
    There hasn't been a FINAL vote on the merger, because that can't happen until everything is approved by the FCC. If and when the FCC gives its approval, there will be a final vote.

    It's no state secret that both groups of shareholders are in overwhelming support of the merger. Don't take my word for it. Show up at the next stockholder meetings and ask around.

    Even IF my info was wrong (it's not), that still doesn't mean I'm "cooking up a paranoid delusion". Unlike the merger opponents, I'm not the one running around spreading a gloom and doom worst case scenario. So there's no paranoia here, pal.

    I'm amused that the merger opponents think that the merger would somehow cause the execs to "take the money and run". If they wanted to do that, they could've already done it. The merger has nothing to do with their ability to leave when they wish.
  46. Quote:
    "In 2006, we have satellite and Internet radio. And barely a day passes without the introduction of a new competing device or service. But we have news for our competitors: We will beat you -- as we have beaten those change agents in the past." -David K. Rehr, President and CEO, National Association of Broadcasters (2006 NAB Radio Show, September 21, 2006)
    Since they can't do it the American way by offering a better product and letting consumers make their own choices---they want to do it via government force, so they can just keep feeding us the same old crap radio they've been giving us for several decades now.
  47. Quote:
    "Our broadcasting businesses face increasing competition from new broadcast technologies, such as broadband wireless and satellite television and radio, and new consumer products, such as portable digital audio players and personal digital video recorders." Clear Channel Communications (2005 Form 10-K; page 24)
    The usual suspects are opposing the merger---NAB, Clear Channel etc. etc.

    NAB and CCC are primarily responsible for the sad, sorry state of terrestrial radio in this country today. Now they want to keep sat radio weak and ineffective as a competitor, by opposing the merger.

    If the merger was a BAD thing for Sat Radio, NAB and CCC would be SUPPORTING it with all the means at their disposal. But they know the merger will make sat radio a streamlined, worthy competitor in the music provider market, which is precisely why they're opposing it.
  48. Quote:
    Originally Posted by hazzar View Post
    All the money spent by both Sirius and Xm (many millions) to lobby, try to gain political favor (by the NAB) etc. could have been avoided.
    Thread

    When that thread was first posted, satrad hadn't spent one million yet. Many millions is quite a stretch.



  49. Do not be afraid siso. Monopolies are good for consumers. Being forced to buy new equipment if you want to take advantage of ala carte once its implemented is good for consumers. Don't fear change my son. Come into the light...come into the light

    what's that. You're not a stock holder holding onto a popcorn fart that this merger will at the very least break you even?
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