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View Poll Results: Do you want a REAL punk station?
Good Charolette and Blink 182 are the Clear Channel answer to punk.
However, your I like your idea anyway. I wish they had simply injected punk as a regular thing with Alt Nation, since it does so little to stand out. There's plenty of stuff on Alt Nation that would work just as well on Octane and make room for more punk.
LOAD UP with the PUNK and EMO... it would really make Sirius Soar... I notice it is the only thing lacking right now.
Left of Center plays lots of fantastic stuff, but it is really so far and few between, altghough the last couple of months LOC has been pretty yummy!
As much as some of the music sucks, it still makes me FEEL GOOD, and thats all that matters.
Artists like Simple Plan, Good charlotte, the Starting line, taking back sunday, Dashboard Confessional, FenixTx, The Get up kids, etc. It would be nice to hear them, or atleast on a dedicated punk/emo/ska show. Looks like sirius promised a punk show, but unfortunetly only went old school with it, and added the punkyard to first wave.
C'mon sirius, let us EMO kids enjoy OUR gen X music, haha
Thanks... hope you are listening.
Sirius has been very responsive as of late, looks like all they do care about is the subscribers now, they just got a shakey start and a bad reputation.
check out this link... and listen to their stream. In my eyes Sirius needs a stream IDENTICAL TO IT. They arent afraid to go 3-4 songs deep on an album, and it is all EMO, Punk, alt rock... not sleepy music like coldplay and suede.
I think we should get a petition going... even if it doesnt get its own stream, atleast a specialty show would be nice. If sirius listens to us... lets see if this is even a possibility. I'm willing to work with someone to get the word out.
Alt nation is good, but it misses me in the demographics... under 25.
LOC is also good, but again, it shoots for a very wide age audience.
This stream at this site shoots for the 14-29 market, and it is just incredible... every song i have heard so far has been amazing. Songs that I would LOVE to be screaming right now in my car!!!
I feel the same way. I was really disappointed with the fact that Sirius has an "Organic Rock", 2 Classic Rocks, "Fantasy Ballroom", "Vista", etc. and they can't put on one channel that would stream punk/emo/ska. These are such popular genres. Punk, emo, and ska should all have their OWN streams, but they don't even get one stream for the three of them. IMHO, 9-out-of-10 music streams are extremely biased to older music. Maybe Sirius thinks that the only people that will spend the money to own this luxury will BE older adults. I don't know. I'm 17 years old and I've payed for all of my Sirius equipment/subs. Please, Sirius, give us younger ones a little more!
BTW... I love Dashboad Confessional. I wish they were on Sirius more often. AND Blink 182 is not a "Clear Channel answer to punk." I won't argue about Good Charlotte, though.
Yep, you must be right. I am sure all those hip hop and r and b and alternative rock and US 1 stations are aimed at older people! Silly me!
That being said, I actually agree with you! A ska/punk type stream would be an excellent idea. They could delete the three regional weather streams and one of the other talk streams, and put that on (the other gets lounge in my world!)
They may be ''popular'' in your universe, but not in the real world.
26, Left of Center, plays some. Your best bet would be to request they play a little more. You may also want to work on HBC (Amigo 140).
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Originally Posted by bmassey85
I feel the same way. I was really disappointed with the fact that Sirius has an "Organic Rock", 2 Classic Rocks, "Fantasy Ballroom", "Vista", etc. and they can't put on one channel that would stream punk/emo/ska. These are such popular genres. Punk, emo, and ska should all have their OWN streams, but they don't even get one stream for the three of them. IMHO, 9-out-of-10 music streams are extremely biased to older music. Maybe Sirius thinks that the only people that will spend the money to own this luxury will BE older adults. I don't know. I'm 17 years old and I've payed for all of my Sirius equipment/subs. Please, Sirius, give us younger ones a little more!
BTW... I love Dashboad Confessional. I wish they were on Sirius more often. AND Blink 182 is not a "Clear Channel answer to punk." I won't argue about Good Charlotte, though.
Haha, yeah. I exaggerated a little bit. To be honest. I haven't spent more than 30 seconds on any music stream outside of "Rock." But in ROCK, Octane is the only channel that doesn't play the old stuff, and just because it's a "modern rock" channel. I've had my sub for like 3 days, and I'm already sick of Allman Brothers. In fact, I'm going to make a new thread to whine about that. Sorry if it annoys anyone.
Also, how does Sirius go about changing their programming? Do they normaly give subscribers what they want? Are they constantly changing the programming one channel at a time when it's needed, or do they do multiple channels at one time (like at certain intervals). How do WE go about getting a new station, contact a bigwig on the phone? Petition?
Brandon
Punk is VERY popular! Emo isn't as popular but it's so commonly included where punk music is played, it's becoming popular. The internet has helped, too. Emo isn't what the big music labels like to promote. File sharing programs (Napster, Morpheus, Shareza, Limewire) and websites (mp3.com) have really helped the startup bands get their name out.
The bands listed above are -NOT- Punk. Punk is a culture (not a msuic) that mostly died 10 years ago, with only an occasional person left around, trying not to give up their lifestyle. Real punk music was played by people who couldn't hardly play instruments... most songs had no more than three bar-chords, and usually had a ridiculous amount of profanity. Mostly directed at the police, society, whatever. The music sounded awful but it got people goin'... which was the whole point.
This new stuff though, is WAY NOT PUNK. It's technically called 'Pop-Punk', but even that is a stretch. It doesn't have ANY of the fundamental values of punk, and usually the song structure is WAY more complicated than a punk song should be.
All that being said, I don't dislike the music, and I would like to see it get its own stream, as there is a HUUUUUUUGE gap in Sirius's rock streams for modern rock. I just had to vent a little about modern pop-punk.
The bands listed above are -NOT- Punk. Punk is a culture (not a msuic) that mostly died 10 years ago, with only an occasional person left around, trying not to give up their lifestyle. Real punk music was played by people who couldn't hardly play instruments... most songs had no more than three bar-chords, and usually had a ridiculous amount of profanity. Mostly directed at the police, society, whatever. The music sounded awful but it got people goin'... which was the whole point.
This new stuff though, is WAY NOT PUNK. It's technically called 'Pop-Punk', but even that is a stretch. It doesn't have ANY of the fundamental values of punk, and usually the song structure is WAY more complicated than a punk song should be.
All that being said, I don't dislike the music, and I would like to see it get its own stream, as there is a HUUUUUUUGE gap in Sirius's rock streams for modern rock. I just had to vent a little about modern pop-punk.
Just being nitpicky... but this is what you say:
"Punk is a culture (not a msuic)" and then "Real punk music was played ... "
-which is it? you continue to talk about the chord structure of punk music - which is a culture
"This new stuff though, is WAY NOT PUNK. It's technically called 'Pop-Punk',"
-there is nothing technical about classifying music. There is no computer program that analyzes a song and outputs "Song Genre: Pop-Punk."
In the end, you're right. Punk is a culture, a state-of-mind. It got assigned to what we know now as punk music because it was music, with that rebellious, hate everything, profane attitude. So, in a way you're right when you say that the new music isn't punk. It's doesn't sound like the music that got defined as punk, originally. As easily as we named that music punk, we can name the new music punk. There is no moral right or wrong in the situtaion.
At least we agree that modern rock is entirely under-represented in Sirius.
Oh.. and has anyone here heard any of Blink 182's music from before "Enema of the State"? Blink's earlier albums are exactly what you call punk, MoonShadow. Even their live album. In between songs they talk about fucking people, dog semen, etc.
I meant Punk wasn't only a music. There was a culture behind that music, and its a culture that doesn't exist behind today's pop-punk. But the music that spun off of that culture would still be called 'punk rock'.
But no, I don't agree that we should just simply label this new stuff 'punk' because the people in the band have spiky hair. That's like the idiot's who wanted another Woodstock, so they called it that... and NOTHING about it was the same. It's degrading to the original, and it should have the respect to call itself something else.
But I will agree with Blink, they were once punk. I guess that's what Mtv will do to ya. There still is good punk out there, but like any good form of rock, you just don't hear it.
Punk!
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