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Alt Nation (Stream 21) is starting to be lame, predicatable, and sound just like any given FM alternative station in any given market.
Bring back Jerry Rubino. The station was MUCH better under his control.
(I realize that LeftofCenter is playing *some* (NOT ALL) of the music dropped by AltNation... but in my opinion AltNation (Rubino era) was simply the absolute best modern rock format I've heard in years.)
Sirius is hiring too many "radio people" who can't think for the future. Steve Blatter, Walter Sabo, and Will Pendarvis are perfect examples of this. (I love Will Pendarvis as a jock, but I seriously doubt he knows who Sahara Hotnights are and I doubt he'd ever attend a club show with The Ataris.) Moreover, AltNation (the way it was) was pretty much the reason I was starting to favor Sirius over XM. While XM's Ethel still needs a lot of help and is not as good as AltNation (even since they RUINED IT), the dismissal of Jerry Rubino (and Don Kaye, among others) and the subsequent music changes makes me favor XM again.
If you don't believe me about the format changes, check these playlists as posted on Mediabase:
AltNation, 7/30/03
11:31:01 AM BEASTIE BOYS NO SLEEP TILL BROOKLYN
11:35:01 AM DAVE GAHAN BOTTLE LIVING
11:38:04 AM LIAM GALLAGHER/STEVE CRADDOCK CARNATION
11:42:01 AM MY VITRIOL GROUNDED (LIVE)
11:44:03 AM THE STONE ROSES LOVE SPREADS
11:50:02 AM THE REPLACEMENTS I'LL BE YOU
11:53:04 AM THE ATARIS TAKEOFFS AND LANDINGS
11:57:02 AM THE BOO RADLEYS C'MON KIDS
12:01:02 PM THE WARLOCKS SHAKE THE DOPE OUT
12:04:05 PM THE PRESIDENTS OF THE UNITED S PEACHES
12:07:04 PM THE WHITE STRIPES SEVEN NATION ARMY
12:11:03 PM TRAVIS THE BLUE FLASHING LIGHT (ACOUS
12:15:01 PM SUPER FURRY ANIMALS GOLDEN RETRIEVER
12:17:03 PM HOT HOT HEAT NO, NOT NOW (LIVE)
12:19:05 PM GOLDFRAPP TRAIN
12:24:00 PM ROONEY I'M SHAKIN'
12:27:03 PM THE HIVES MAIN OFFENDER
12:30:00 PM FOUNTAINS OF WAYNE THE VALLEY OF MALLS
12:33:03 PM CLIENT PRICE OF LOVE
12:37:01 PM SONIC YOUTH CANDLE
12:42:00 PM STEREOPHONICS MAYBE TOMORROW
12:45:05 PM FEEDER COME BACK AROUND
12:49:00 PM KULA SHAKER MYSTICAL MACHINE GUN
12:54:04 PM ED HARCOURT WATCHING THE SUN COME UP
1:00:02 PM REMY ZERO SAVE ME
1:04:04 PM GRANDADDY NOW IT'S ON
1:08:03 PM THE LIBERTINES I GET ALONG
1:15:00 PM GOO GOO DOLLS JUST THE WAY YOU ARE
1:18:01 PM SUPERGRASS SEEN THE LIGHT
1:20:03 PM BELLY GEPETTO
1:23:05 PM R.E.M. STAR 69
1:31:05 PM EVERMORE SLIPPING AWAY (LIVE)
1:35:05 PM ASH NUMBSKULL
1:39:01 PM RICHARD ASHCROFT CHECK THE MEANING
1:43:03 PM LEAVES CRAZY
1:47:01 PM BEASTIE BOYS RHYMIN' AND STEALIN'
1:51:02 PM DADA DIM
1:55:04 PM FOUNTAINS OF WAYNE LITTLE RED LIGHT
1:59:01 PM THE USED BURIED MYSELF ALIVE
2:02:05 PM STEADMAN WAVE GOODBYE
2:06:04 PM BECK WHERE IT'S AT
2:11:05 PM IDLEWILD (I AM) WHAT I AM NOT
2:14:04 PM RIALTO MONDAY MORNING 5:19
2:19:03 PM THE DATSUNS LADY
2:22:02 PM LONGWAVE WAKE ME WHEN IT'S OVER
2:26:03 PM THE STAR SPANGLES WHICH OF THE TWO OF US IS GONN
2:29:02 PM MANIC STREET PREACHERS YOU LOVE US
2:33:03 PM DEPECHE MODE POLICY OF TRUTH
2:41:01 PM INSPIRAL CARPETS SATURN 5
2:45:00 PM HAVEN TELL ME
2:47:04 PM BETTER THAN EZRA DESPERATLEY WANTING
2:52:01 PM U2 RUNNING TO STAND STILL
2:56:02 PM SENSE FIELD I REFUSE
2:59:05 PM SMASHING PUMPKINS RHINOCEROS
3:05:04 PM THE DANDY WARHOLS WE USED TO BE FRIENDS
3:09:00 PM THE CORAL GOODBYE
3:16:01 PM ULTRA VIVID SCENE SPECIAL ONE
3:19:03 PM THE VINES GET FREE
3:21:03 PM FOUNTAINS OF WAYNE RED DRAGON TATTOO
3:25:00 PM SOUL ASYLUM SOMEBODY TO SHOVE
3:28:02 PM GIGOLO AUNTS EVEN THOUGH (THE ONE BEFORE TH
3:32:05 PM A.M. RADIO IF THIS IS THE END OF THE WORL
3:36:01 PM STEREOPHONICS T-SHIRT SUN TAN
3:40:01 PM EVAN DANDO THE SAME THING YOU THOUGHT HAR
3:43:05 PM PETE YORN BURRITO
3:46:03 PM SEMISONIC DOWN IN FLAMES
3:50:03 PM MARCY PLAYGROUND SEX & CANDY
3:53:01 PM PLACEBO THIS PICTURE
3:56:05 PM AFI GIRL'S NOT GREY
4:00:00 PM GEMMA HAYES HANGING AROUND
4:03:03 PM NINE INCH NAILS TERRIBLE LIE
4:08:01 PM QUEENS OF THE STONE AGE GO WITH THE FLOW
4:11:01 PM DEATHRAY LEGIONNAIRES IN DOUBT
4:13:05 PM FEEDER FIND THE COLOUR
4:17:04 PM BLUR OUT OF TIME
4:21:01 PM LIZ PHAIR WHY CAN'T I?
4:24:03 PM BENT SWOLLEN
4:30:02 PM OASIS DON'T LOOK BACK IN ANGER
4:35:01 PM GUSTER AMSTERDAM (GONNA WRITE YOU A L
4:38:05 PM R.E.M. TEXARKANA
4:42:02 PM PERNICE BROTHERS THE WEAKEST SHADE OF BLUE
4:45:03 PM GIGOLO AUNTS GUN
4:50:00 PM ELBOW NEWBORN
4:53:01 PM BLACK REBEL MOTORCYCLE CLUB STOP
4:57:05 PM THE CHARLATANS LOVE IS THE KEY
5:02:02 PM RADIOHEAD THERE, THERE
5:07:03 PM CLINIC COME INTO OUR ROOM
5:11:02 PM YEAR OF THE RABBIT RABBIT HOLE
5:13:05 PM THE ELECTRIC SOFT PARADE EMPTY AT THE END
5:16:05 PM PETE YORN COME BACK HOME
5:20:01 PM BOB MOULD POISON YEARS
5:25:02 PM SUBLIME DOIN' TIME
5:29:03 PM EELS SATURDAY MORNING
5:32:02 PM THE ATARIS TAKEOFFS AND LANDINGS
5:36:01 PM CAKE SHEEP GO TO HEAVEN
5:41:00 PM ATHLETE BEAUTIFUL
5:44:05 PM THE CORAL PASS IT ON
5:47:00 PM MY LIFE STORY WALK/DON'T WALK
5:50:05 PM LEMONHEADS MRS. ROBINSON
5:54:02 PM HOT HOT HEAT NO, NOT NOW
5:57:00 PM THE RAVEONETTES ATTACK OF THE GHOST RIDERS
5:59:03 PM SERAFIN DAY BY DAY
6:02:05 PM BADLY DRAWN BOY DISILLUSION
6:06:05 PM LONGWAVE EVERYWHERE YOU TURN
6:10:03 PM THE HOUSE OF LOVE CHRISTINE
6:14:00 PM FISCHERSPOONER EMERGE
6:18:04 PM GRANDADDY NOW IT'S ON
6:22:04 PM DAVE GAHAN BOTTLE LIVING
6:26:02 PM GOO GOO DOLLS MILLION MILES AWAY
6:29:00 PM PETER MURPHY CUTS YOU UP
6:34:03 PM THE FOLK IMPLOSION FUSE
6:39:02 PM GEGGY TAH WHOEVER YOU ARE
6:43:04 PM ROONEY STAY AWAY
6:47:01 PM SPACEHOG THIS IS AMERICA (ACOUSTIC)
6:48:03 PM SMASHING PUMPKINS I OF THE MOURNING
6:53:01 PM STEREOPHONICS MADAME HELGA
6:57:03 PM BEASTIE BOYS BODY MOVIN'
7:00:04 PM EVERMORE SLIPPING AWAY
AltNation, 9/18/03
11:28:05 AM Black Rebel Motorcycle Club Whatever Happened To My Rock 'N' Roll
11:33:02 AM R.E.M. Bad Day
11:37:04 AM Elbow Fallen Angel
11:41:02 AM Soundgarden Fell On Black Days
11:46:01 AM Hot Hot Heat Talk To Me, Dance With Me
11:48:05 AM Garbage Stupid Girl
11:53:01 AM Sum 41 Still Waiting
11:55:05 AM Serafin Day By Day
11:59:00 AM Beastie Boys Intergalactic
12:02:03 PM Rancid Fall Back Down
12:06:01 PM Beck Where It's At
12:11:01 PM The White Stripes The Hardest Button To Button
12:14:05 PM Jimmy Eat World The Middle
12:17:04 PM Grandaddy Now It's On
12:21:04 PM The Mighty Mighty Bosstones The Impression That I Get
12:24:05 PM The Strokes 12:51
12:27:02 PM The Used The Taste Of Ink
12:30:04 PM Jane's Addiction Just Because
12:34:03 PM The Raveonettes The Great Love Sound
12:37:04 PM Stone Temple Pilots Trippin' On A Hole In A Paper Heart
12:40:04 PM Coldplay The Scientist
12:45:04 PM Smashing Pumpkins Tonight, Tonight
12:49:05 PM Foo Fighters All My Life
12:54:02 PM The Ataris In This Diary
12:58:00 PM Green Day She
1:00:02 PM R.E.M. Bad Day
1:04:01 PM Everlast What It's Like
1:09:00 PM Black Rebel Motorcycle Club Stop
1:13:04 PM AFI Girl's Not Grey
1:16:04 PM Year Of The Rabbit Rabbit Hole
1:19:03 PM Cake Never There
1:22:00 PM Radiohead There There
1:27:03 PM Hot Hot Heat Bandages
1:31:00 PM 311 Creatures (For A While)
1:35:02 PM Kings Of Leon Molly's Chambers
1:37:03 PM Jane's Addiction Jane Says
1:42:02 PM OutKast Hey Ya!
1:46:01 PM Lit Miserable
1:50:04 PM Blink-182 First Date
1:53:03 PM The Used Buried Myself Alive
1:57:00 PM Sublime What I Got
1:59:05 PM Dashboard Confessional Hands Down
2:02:05 PM Pearl Jam Yellow Ledbetter (live)
2:08:04 PM Saves The Day Anywhere With You
2:11:01 PM Red Hot Chili Peppers Can't Stop
2:15:04 PM Interpol Obstacle 1
2:20:01 PM Everclear Father Of Mine
2:24:00 PM Brand New The Quiet Things That No One Ever Knows
2:28:00 PM Nirvana You Know You're Right
2:31:02 PM Fountains Of Wayne Stacy's Mom
2:34:03 PM Travis Re-Offender
2:38:01 PM Beastie Boys Girls
2:40:03 PM Jet Are You Gonna Be My Girl
2:44:02 PM Beck The New Pollution
2:48:00 PM The White Stripes Dead Leaves And The Dirty Ground
2:51:02 PM Pete Yorn Burrito
2:54:01 PM Temple Of The Dog Hunger Strike
2:58:00 PM The Vines Highly Evolved
2:59:04 PM Offspring Come Out And Play
3:03:00 PM Radiohead Go To Sleep
3:06:03 PM Coldplay Clocks
3:11:03 PM Rooney Blueside
3:14:05 PM The Chemical Brothers Block Rockin' Beats
3:19:05 PM Foo Fighters Low
3:24:02 PM The Strokes Someday
3:27:03 PM Rancid Fall Back Down
3:31:00 PM The Sounds Mine For Life
3:35:04 PM Stone Temple Pilots Vasoline
3:38:02 PM Guster Amsterdam (Gonna Write You A Letter)
3:42:00 PM Oasis Wonderwall
3:46:02 PM Queens Of The Stone Age Go With The Flow
3:49:02 PM Yellowcard Way Away
3:52:04 PM Green Day Longview
3:56:02 PM American Hi-Fi The Art Of Losing
3:59:04 PM U2 Elevation
4:03:01 PM Semisonic Closing Time
4:07:04 PM Jane's Addiction Just Because
4:11:03 PM Thursday Signals Over The Air
4:15:00 PM Sum 41 Fat Lip
4:18:02 PM Starsailor Silence Is Easy
4:21:05 PM Smashing Pumpkins Zero
4:24:03 PM AFI The Leaving Song Pt. II
4:28:00 PM Jimmy Eat World Sweetness
4:31:03 PM Fountains Of Wayne Stacy's Mom
4:34:05 PM Super Furry Animals Golden Retriever
4:37:01 PM Blink-182 All The Small Things
4:39:05 PM Hot Hot Heat Talk To Me, Dance With Me
4:42:05 PM Sneaker Pimps 6 Underground
4:46:04 PM Weezer Keep Fishin'
4:49:03 PM Ima Robot Dynomite
4:51:05 PM Sublime Doin' Time
4:55:05 PM Zwan Honestly
4:59:03 PM 311 Creatures (For A While)
5:03:05 PM Nirvana The Man Who Sold The World (unplugged)
5:07:02 PM The White Stripes The Hardest Button To Button
5:10:05 PM The Streets Let's Push Things Forward
5:14:05 PM The Chemical Brothers The Golden Path
5:19:03 PM Hole Violet
5:22:05 PM The Strokes 12:51
5:25:01 PM The Hives Hate To Say I Told You So
5:28:03 PM Dashboard Confessional Hands Down
5:31:04 PM Coldplay God Put A Smile Upon Your Face
5:36:03 PM Pearl Jam Jeremy
5:41:03 PM The Crystal Method Busy Child
5:49:01 PM Red Hot Chili Peppers By The Way
5:53:00 PM The Donnas Too Bad About Your Girl
5:55:05 PM Foo Fighters Learn To Fly
5:59:05 PM Fountains Of Wayne Stacy's Mom
6:03:00 PM Beastie Boys So What'cha Want
6:07:00 PM Black Rebel Motorcycle Club Stop
6:11:04 PM Gorillaz Clint Eastwood
6:17:03 PM The Dandy Warhols We Used To Be Friends
6:21:01 PM Fatboy Slim Praise You
6:26:02 PM Radiohead There There
6:31:04 PM Queens Of The Stone Age No One Knows
6:36:00 PM R.E.M. Bad Day
6:40:01 PM Elbow Fallen Angel
6:43:05 PM Stone Temple Pilots Plush
6:49:00 PM OutKast Hey Ya!
6:52:05 PM King Missile Detachable Penis
6:56:00 PM Dashboard Confessional Screaming Infidelities
6:59:05 PM Serafin Day By Day
7:03:00 PM Rancid Fall Back Down
I know how you feel. AltNation was one of my favorite streams on Sirius and the stream that kept me off of XM. The music is definatly taken a turn for the worse. Altnation was unlike any other station/stream/channel and that was all due to Jerry. If XM is smart they will pick him up.
Can someone now tell me what are the differences between an Active Rock stream like Octane and Alt Nation? It seems to me that there are few differences with the exception that Octane will play an occasional old song from Black Sabbath and some new Metalica. I even check out the active rock charts and alternative charts and see many of the same songs and artists on both. While I am it here, what is the difference also between modern rock and alternative rock. Weren't they the same thing 6 or 7 years ago?
Well Octane gets the harder stuff, and AltNation gets the softer stuff. As a fan of Octane, I love AltNation's new format, and to be honest, I think it'd have much more mainstream acceptance, but on the other hand, just like I was mad that they changed Octane a bit, you have every right to be mad about AltNation. I reccomend looking in the Octane thread for more info about these two streams.
They really need to off (with extreme prejudice) all the commercial radio people and hire some NCE people with fresh ideas.
No one is going to pay $13 a month for the same old crap they get on ''free'' radio. Sirius needs to get programmers who can get $200 a year voluntarily from listeners for 2 hours a week of Jump Blues or whatever. The only place where the payoff is that rich is the left end of the FM dial.
A word that I was taught in my professional education for my trade should basically be avoided at all costs.
I guess basically means sort of.
On another topic, it's kind of like "With all due respect..." (You can be sure that what comes next is a cutting, ugly remark showing no respect whatsoever!) Or, if you is from the south, same thing, Ugly Comment, followed by...."bless his/her heart" As in, "He really tries but he is a trashy piece of poop, bless his heart!"
Basically, Octane and Altnation are pretty much sort of like Ethel and Squizz.
However, if you're a chronic listener to both channels on both streams, there is a world of difference. Each service has its own feel for that type of music.
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A word that I was taught in my professional education for my trade should basically be avoided at all costs.
Basically, I should be sorry then. But with all due respect, I was right and you were wrong as usual.
2) Did you notice the number of repeats in those playlists?? The songs that come up more than once are the same songs I hear every time I'm in the car. That's one of the first big differences between XM's Ethel and Squizz and Sirius' Octane and Altnation, incase you were wondering.
Alt Nation
But with all due respect, I was right and you were wrong as usual. 
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