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Old 08-29-2006, 12:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Inno vs Stilleto?

XM sites put up a poll.

http://www.xmfan.com/viewtopic.php?t=68551

http://www.xm411.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=27457

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Old 08-29-2006, 01:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm just amazed that Adam Savage came by to bust the myth.

http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/my...meet/meet.html

I kid Adam, but really, does the criteria for judging SIRIUS always happen after a decision is made?

When the criteria is only determined in hindsight it is very much like people like to spin things.
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I guess is you want your screen and hard drive space to be half the size, no click wheel-a clumsy square function user interface, then the Inno is your radio.

If you want 2gb, 2.2" screen with Hi-Res graphics, and a kick butt Aurora user interface, then Stiletto rules!
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for me that is the simplest question ever adam...i would go with the sirius portable for two reasons: howard stern and Jam_ON three awsome channels that xm comes nowhere near having...wellxm did have a half jam band channel but they go rid of it, that sucks.

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I'd take a PnP1 over an Inno since the PnP1 would give me H100 and H101. But no use trying to convince Adam since he tends to reject your reality and substitute his own...

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Since the Stiletto isn't out yet, I'm happy with my Inno. I remember when the Inno was first announced, they said there were plans that there would be XM radios with bigger storage coming out eventually. You know it will happen. Oh I should say I have two Innos and yes I have dual subs.
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Since the Stiletto isn't out yet, I'm happy with my Inno. I remember when the Inno was first announced, they said there were plans that there would be XM radios with bigger storage coming out eventually. You know it will happen. Oh I should say I have two Innos and yes I have dual subs.
There is little doubt it will happen. SIRIUS is raising the envelope, XM must follow. You can bet they are looking at Wifi too.

I'd personally prefer to see one released that is PlayItForSure compatible, along with up to 4 gigs of space for Sat Radio and MP3/WMA files. But if they really wanted to raise the envelope allow for Podcasting as well. XM is never sleeping when it comes to R&D. It will be interesting to see what they release next.

You are much more happy with the Inno than I am. I am not so overjoyed by it. The menu system is a nightmare, the battery issue is an ongoing nightmare that they should have long ago addressed. Many on the XM forums are saying this is a hardware issue and it may not be firmware fixable (the battery draining issue I mean). I hope that is not the case, but if it can be fixed via firmware, release the damn thing already. Goes to show you that no electronic device is perfect.

I am pesonally glad SIRIUS is raising the bar, this will keep XM doing the same. This is the beauty of competition and why these companies both need to stay in business.
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There is little doubt it will happen. SIRIUS is raising the envelope, XM must follow. You can bet they are looking at Wifi too.
DAB, is there a thread that discusses what wifi will mean? I don't completely understand. Does it mean you only get the channels being streamed over sirius.com?
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DAB, is there a thread that discusses what wifi will mean? I don't completely understand. Does it mean you only get the channels being streamed over sirius.com?
Anything you can stream now, you'll be able to stream via Wifi. They do not have the rights to stream programming and channels that they do not own the content.
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65 music channels plus two Howard channels that you normally would get via the sirius.com site. If there is an Internet wireless signal, like your neighbor's for example, or in your office indoors, if they don't have some security layer that requires a password/username prompt, then you can grab it and listen. Cool as can be!
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65 music channels plus two Howard channels that you normally would get via the sirius.com site. If there is an Internet wireless signal, like your neighbor's for example, or in your office indoors, if they don't have some security layer that requires a password/username prompt, then you can grab it and listen. Cool as can be!
Ok, you confused me. I need to be picking up this signal from a wireless router? This doesn't sound right to me. I'm not the most technical person, so bear with me.
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You will be able to get live reception with the Stiletto while walking around outside and many places will get great reception inside. If the place you are in doesn't get any sort of reception inside and you do have access to Wireless Internet, like many coffee shops, airports, offices, you will be able to access the online streams that SIRIUS offers using what is called a WiFi connection. You can access a screen on the SL100 wherein you choose which WiFi connection to go with, some are incrypted and can't be accessed without a user id and password.

WiFi can be all over the place. In many parts of the world it is more accessable than here. If you take a trip to Europe or Asia, don't forget your Stiletto, you will likely be able to get good reception on the plane within our Continent, then when overseas you can sit at a coffee shop with WiFi and listen to the daily Stern Show or any of the music channels on the internet.
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WiFi can be all over the place. In many parts of the world it is more accessable than here. If you take a trip to Europe or Asia, don't forget your Stiletto, you will likely be able to get good reception on the plane within our Continent, then when overseas you can sit at a coffee shop with WiFi and listen to the daily Stern Show or any of the music channels on the internet.
Open WiFi connections aren't anywhere as available as you make it sound. There are plenty of commercial hot spots, but those definitely aren't free and require a browser type interface to access the login screen. The university networks I've seen also require some type of authentication. And even some free access zones require that you first establish an account. Coffee shops, book stores, hotels and airports are some of the places I use for internet access when I'm away from home. Even if you have established WiFi accounts, the Stiletto won't be able to take advantage of a large number of hot spots unless it can be programmed to handle the login procedure.

Yes, there are plenty of WiFi access in Europe and Asia, for a cost. In the last year I've been to the U.K., Germany, Holland, Japan, Hong Kong and Singapore. Within their major cities I've found only limited open WiFi access. You can find internet access at almost any large bistro, but as you'd expect, it requires going through some type of login process. Even with my T-Mobile Total Internet account, international roaming hot spot access went for $6.00 to 12.00 per hour. Most of the hotels I stayed at offered internet access as part of the room charge. Some had WiFi access and others used wired ethernet. All required a web browser for the login and TOS pages. Unless you want to use your Stiletto as a MP3 player, I can't see taking it on a trip outside of North America.
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8 out of 10 Wifi Hot spots I've encountered in recent month, did not require a browser login. However, I do think you'll have the ability to login with a password via the Stiletto, but there is not built in browswer that I am aware of. My notebook for example, will notify me that there is a WiFi connection available, if a password is requied I get a little window that pops up. If not it just logs me right in. I stay at hotels at least every other week and that is how 8 out of 10 of those work as well. There are some that do require a password, but I think that will be simple enough.

I don't think SIRIUS is going after areas outside of North America just yet, so I think they are in good shape. Sure beat anything XM has out right now because as we all know, they have NOTHING that will even remotely log into a Wifi hot spot with or without a password.
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Another interesting thing is that many cities are rolling out the Internet for free throughout their local area. It will be interesting to see if the Stiletto can make use of these free Internet connections. Might make it easier for people to get Sirius in their office buildings.
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