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Old 10-09-2006, 06:11 PM   #1
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Ummm... Hi? Yeah, first post. Here goes!

I'd like to use the Stiletto on my motorcycle. I have a kickin' pair of earphones that fit inside my helmet that use a standard 1/8" headphone jack and cancel all kinds of outside noise. I'd also like to use an accessory antenna, permanently mounted to the motorcycle. I do NOT want to use a bulky car kit, and the combination antenna/headphone is simply not an option.

I read the thread about "Ghetto Headphones" setup because car kits are not yet available, but am still unclear on how I could do this (probably because I've never seen the jack setup on the bottom of the Stiletto).

Anyone got any ideas for me?

I saw this: http://www.siriusbackstage.com/forum...headphone+jack , But have absolutely no idea what the user is talking about.

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I took my Pioneer Airware XM2go cradle (which I haven't used since getting the Inno) -> and plugged the Stiletto into it -> since it is a 5V adapter the power part works; the antenna parts work just fine as well; the only thing that didn't work was the line-out on the cradle -> so no sound. So, I cut the one side of the cradle so that the Stiletto headphone jack would be exposed and plugged in my speakers.

I am too embarrased on the look to send a picture..... but it does work fine.

F B T

-Tom
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:38 PM   #2
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if you look back at that link , you'll see pictures down below that explains what that guy was trying to say. i listen to sirius live on my motorcycle, but not using the stiletto. i also have a stiletto and like you, have pondered over riding without using a dock. i had an idea of using the arm band for the s50 , taping or tying the antenna to your arm some way, and run the earbuds up to your helmets, but that doesn't sound safe. whatever you do, don't mount the stiletto to your bike and then run the earbud to your helmet....if you go down, you don't want to be leashed to your bike.

let me know if you have any ??? or want to try another route.
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:08 AM   #3
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if you look back at that link , you'll see pictures down below that explains what that guy was trying to say.
Yep, just saw those. Pictures really ARE worth a thousand words, aren't they? I wonder if there is a "Soft" (not hard plastic) XM2go jack that would be more easily cut apart...

The idea of a home antenna is very appealing, as it doesn't seem the car antennas work on the bikes (something about the lack of a metallic "ground plane"). Home antennas seem to be the ticket, you can line the inside of the fairing with them and you'll never know it's there.

That and a power supply wired into the bike ( http://www.powerletproducts.com/ ?)
and I should be good to go!

-Tom
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Old 10-10-2006, 05:52 PM   #4
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hey IL8APEX

i'm not sure if you understand how the satellites and your antenna work together to get reception... it really doesn't matter if you have a home antennna or a car one. what matters is that nothing sits in between the sky and your antenna, so hiding the antenna inside the fairing would not work.

as far as fairings go, i'm gonna guess you have a sportsbike. i have an
sv650s... its not sportsbike, but it does have an upper fairing with a small windscreen..
that is where i store my antenna.

here's what i basically did:

1. Mounted my receiver by ziptying the car mount to the upper triple clamp and one of the fork tubes.
2. Plugged the antenna in and shoved it up front behind the windscreen.
3. Ran the ac cigarette adapter underneath my fuel tank , where it connects to a female adapter that i run straight to the battery ( i also connected a 5watt fuse to the female adapter to keep things safe)
4. Then i use a very small mp3 player w/ radio and set the radio station to the same station i have on the receiver's fm transmitter
5. I keep the mp3 player in my pocket and run the earbud wires under my shirt, up to my ears.
6. Start up and i'm gone

there is nothing like having traffic/weather/howard/music when you're cruising. two weeks ago tested it going 250 miles through mostly twisties and all of the times it dropped out was a total of about 1 minute.

here is the reciever i use:

http://www.xactcommunication.com/XTR...-jockey-II-26/

it just worked out that the buttons are big enough to work with gloves on.
one of these days i'll put a little page up w/ pics so others can enjoy riding with sirius.

let me know if you're interested and need more detail

ride safe
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:08 PM   #5
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I've used an xact stream jockey on my HD Road King for a couple years now. I modified a car kit to mount it to the windshield. I ran the antenna to the top of the headlight. I ran a power adapter to the battery under the seat and under the tank. It worked great. I wanted to upgrade to something other than a stream jockey but couldn't find another sirius pnp unit with a headphone jack that has enough nuts to drive the ear plugs with transducers that I use. The plugs work great, keep the noise out, let the music in.

I recently purchased a stiletto. I like it but i'm still trying to figure a way to get an antenna connected to it in portable mode. Many people on this blog use the headphones with antenna for signal reception and ear buds to listen through. I tried this on the cycle and it works ok but there is no where good to hang the antenna phones.

So I cut the connector off of the headphone antenna and spliced an regular antenna. This helped but I concluded that the antenna requires power. I further disassembled the headphone antenna and am convinced that power is required.

So, I cut the ear buds off of the antenna headphones completely. Tomorrow I plan to solder the connector back onto what's left of the headphone antenna and see how this works. Not much left but the top that has "sirius" molded into the plastic. If this works, i'll affix this to the top of the dash in some way that's secure but removable and not too tacky looking and see how it works. I'll let you know.

I think it's gonna rain here in Charlotte for the next couple days so it will probably be Friday or the weekend before I can road test it. However, I'm hopeful this will work based on what I saw inside the headphones. I only hope I didn't damage the electronics when I broke the headphones open.

No telling when i'll be able to purchase more headphones. Looks like the accessories will be slow coming.

If this works, i'll but the stiletto inside the small pouch I have on the dash. i'll run the power under the seat to the battery, (whenever an auto adapter becomes available for sell), As I mentioned i'll affix the antenna in proximity.

Normally I run the ear buds under my jacket to keep the wire from flopping around.

I'll let you know how it works. This is the best I could come up with.

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Old 10-11-2006, 07:59 PM   #6
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Ron- I applaud your complete lack of respect for OEM. Bravo! Your solution sounds like a good one, but I'm starting to think that I'm better served by staying away from a Stiletto simply because of the problems you're encountering mounting an external antenna.

Hank- Like the setup! Never thought of using a small MP3 as a receiver. That would keep cords out of the way. Very nice.

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here is the reciever i use:

http://www.xactcommunication.com/XTR...-jockey-II-26/

it just worked out that the buttons are big enough to work with gloves on.
I like that receiver! I just purchased the latest Stratus, y'know, kind of a "let's just buy a cheapie to get me started" kind of a thing. Besides, it was one of the few at Best Buy that had a headphone jack. After seeing the Stream Jockey I might just have to trade up! Space is key, as I'm riding a Triumph 675. Smallest area under windscreen on the planet, I think, and space is at a premium!

As for the antenna thing, I found it in another thread elsewhere that the "micro" sized car antennas rely on a metal ground plane (otherwise known as the top of your car) to help collect signals. The home antennas, on the other hand, are less fussy about where they're placed and more often than not actually pull in better signal. I'm not sure on whether they require power, will have to look into this further.

Thanks for the help, guys. I should have this thing up and running just in time to put the bike away for winter!

-Tom

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Old 10-11-2006, 08:33 PM   #7
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I tested my solution today. It works great. In short, you can cut the ear buds off of the headphone antenna and use the antenna headphones and the earbuds. I'm not sure about the power if it's required for the antenna or not, I could be mistaken but its a moot point. I'm gonna mount some flexable magnetic material to the back of whats left of the antenna headphones and lay it right on the tank.

When I can get an extra 12V adapter, i'll be set.

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Old 10-12-2006, 07:00 AM   #8
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I tested my solution today. It works great.
Pictures?

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Old 10-12-2006, 12:40 PM   #9
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I took a snap shot with my cell phone. I had to crop it pretty severly to get below the 39.1KB max file size requirement but it should be sufficient to convey the concept.

I basically cut off the plastic to the earbuds leaving only the antenna. Of course, I broke open the antenna to see what's inside so I contorted the plastic a little which made it a bit difficult to get back together. I used hot glue to seal up the antenna. It looks a bit tacky but I don't think you'll have this problem if you just cut off the earbuds. I put shrink tube around a couple of small rectangular magnets similar to magnets that might be used with reed switches. I glued the magnets on the ends of the antenna. The magnets allow me to attache the antenna to any metal such as the tank. The shrink tube shroud prevents damage to the tank paint. When I'm done riding, I pull the antenna off and slip it into the dash bag. It works pretty well. I slip the Stiletto into the dash pouch and run the ear plugs through my jacket.

When I get an extra 12V adapter, i'll attache it as well and route it under the seat so I won't be concerned about the battery going dead.

Make sure you pull the cable out of the ear bud before cutting it off. Otherwise it's pretty simple.

I'll continue to test it and if I continue to get acceptable results, I may buy my wife an SL10 and set her up with a similar solution. She currently uses a MyFi with one of those clip on antennas. We'll see.

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Nice Color Bike! Good Job too on the antenna
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i like the little pouch, where did you get it and how does it mount
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The pouch is an HD accessory. I forget how much I paid for it but it's perfect for throwing the stiletto in. Before I started using the Stiletto, I put my xact stream jockey in it. It works great. It fastens to the dash with mounting hardware for the dash. There is a hex/acorn type fastener just about the pouch and a phillips screw at the bottom near the tank. They are available for all the HD models with the Dash.

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Ronman, get a 12V adapter from ebay. I seen a bunch of them on there the other day selling for under $10.
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