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Old 01-26-2006, 01:04 PM   #1
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Default SIRIUS repeater & other technical stuff, courtesy FCC

I emailed the FCC about information about the terrestrial repeaters, and they sent me a link where anyone can search the FCC for any document filed:

http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov/myibfs/welcome.do

I've noted some of the neat reports below:

File Report: SAT-STA-20050301-00053
  • Under attachment menu, look at Exhibit A. Jackpot! A list of terrestrial repeaters in the US as of 02/28/2005. With this information, I have updated my repeater list located in my sig.

    My repeater list now has three keys to each city listed.
    - An empty black box which means the FCC list had a repeater listed for that location, but it has not been verified by an SBS member that a repeater exists in that location.
    - A checked black box which means the FCC list had a repeater listed for that location and it has been verified by an SBS member that there is a repeater at that location.
    - A checked red box which means the FCC list did not have a repeater listed for that location, but it has been verified by an SBS member that there is a repeater at that location.

    I am asking all members of SBS that live in an unverified location to verify one is there and let me know!

File Report: SAT-STA-20010724-00064
  • Under attachment menu, Attachment Application is a document that contains some technical information about the repeaters themselves. There are a lot of documents under some of these reports, but it is an interesting read.

File Report: SAT-STA-20050601-00114
  • For the tech gurus who are looking for a possible do-it-yourself indoor repeater, check out this report, go to attachment menu and look at Attachment Attachment 1. Neat, neat stuff...

There are many reports here to look at, and I've only looked at a couple of them. But the main purpose of this was the repeater list, so get those updates to me!

Thanks all!
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Old 01-30-2006, 01:08 PM   #2
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Default Awesome Links!

Dude....thanks for the links! If you go into the link 2nd link about the repeaters, and then click the attachment menu, and then click the link listed as "attachment REQUEST", it will give you all of the repeaters, with the latitude and longitude. You can now find exactly what building the repeaters are on...along with the power, etc.

I just matched up the lat/lon from Mapquest, and then looked on the google maps/satellite pics, finding the addresses and buildings.

Tampa is on top of the Bank of America building, and one Minneapolis tower is on the IDS. The St. Paul repeater (actually listed as a second Minneapolis repeater) is between 6th and 7th on Cedar.

There are 8 alone in NYC. I haven't plotted them all yet...
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Dude....thanks for the links! If you go into the link 2nd link about the repeaters, and then click the attachment menu, and then click the link listed as "attachment REQUEST", it will give you all of the repeaters, with the latitude and longitude. You can now find exactly what building the repeaters are on...along with the power, etc.

I just matched up the lat/lon from Mapquest, and then looked on the google maps/satellite pics, finding the addresses and buildings.

Tampa is on top of the Bank of America building, and one Minneapolis tower is on the IDS. The St. Paul repeater (actually listed as a second Minneapolis repeater) is between 6th and 7th on Cedar.

There are 8 alone in NYC. I haven't plotted them all yet...
I saw the Lat/Long information as well as the power. I am thinking about putting the coordinates of each one on a map and posting to the current repeater text site. If I did it, I would probably put a link with each repeater and the link will contain a map of the area with the lat/long coordinates. I just have to find the time to do it
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What is the link? I can't find it?
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What's strange is I get full terr signal in parts of St. Louis that are absolutley nowhere near the one repeater listed on the FCC site. Is that list old?
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What's strange is I get full terr signal in parts of St. Louis that are absolutley nowhere near the one repeater listed on the FCC site. Is that list old?
Based on some hunting around I've done, some of the repeaters are listed as a nearby city (i.e. the White Plains, NY repeater is listed as a New York City location...about 25 miles away). While the list might be somewhat dated, I would assume Sirius has to go to the FCC to make any material changes to what's listed in their license (looks like this is a STA (temporary authorization)...not a full license.
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What's strange is I get full terr signal in parts of St. Louis that are absolutley nowhere near the one repeater listed on the FCC site. Is that list old?
Based on some hunting around I've done, some of the repeaters are listed as a nearby city (i.e. the White Plains, NY repeater is listed as a New York City location...about 25 miles away). While the list might be somewhat dated, I would assume Sirius has to go to the FCC to make any material changes to what's listed in their license (looks like this is a STA (temporary authorization)...not a full license.
There are 2 repeaters listed for Missouri. Once for Kansas City and one for St. Louis. I am 99.9 percent sure there's more than one repeater in St Louis for the reason I stated. And anyone who passed 3rd grade geography knows I'm not picking up the KC repeater
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The list is dated 2/28/05.
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The list is dated 2/28/05.
That might explain it. Anyone know when they update the online lists
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I don't know how often they update it, but according to the FCC site, that is the latest one out there. But someone in Lincoln, NE told me that they weren't getting a terrestrial signal in Lincoln, nor in Omaha, yet the FCC list has both of them with repeaters.

I don't know what it all means, but the info is there
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wow those are some hardcore instructions on how to build a repeater. I may have to attempt that.


Even tells you how many screws you'll need.
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For anyone who might be interested, I took the coordinates from the FCC document and created a file you can load in Google Earth to see all the repeaters.

Just load this KML file (right click, save as) into Google Earth and you'll get something like this (click to enlarge):





Anyone know what the repeaters look like? The FCC document says the repeater antenna is an HMD8v360-R05-H if that means anything to anyone. Would appear if you knew what you were looking for you could probably see it in that photo (assuming the photo is current enough).
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Looking at the attachment, it mentions Sirius and XM, over and over. Seems that the repeaters are the same for both services? Can we use the XM mini repeater for Sirius service.
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I don't know how often they update it, but according to the FCC site, that is the latest one out there. But someone in Lincoln, NE told me that they weren't getting a terrestrial signal in Lincoln, nor in Omaha, yet the FCC list has both of them with repeaters.

I don't know what it all means, but the info is there
The last time I looked up the Lincoln, NE repeater I came to the conclusion it was located on the top of the Nebraska State Capital Building... which seems really weird.

The last time I was in Wichita, which would have been February 2005 I did not receive a terrestrial signal. Based on the coordinates from the FCC the repeater is on the roof of the Wichita City Hall I believe.
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Foxbert, good job on the .kml file! That must have been tedious work.
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