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Old 11-11-2006, 02:52 PM   #31
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This nationwide campaign you speak of......Is it for FM or XM? I have yet to see either. However, Lex and Terry make a grand appearance by being featured on XM's website. They are hailed as "America's hottest and most controversial talk show hosts". BTW, you need to learn your O&A talking points before posting. Their biggest gripe is that they don't get promoted enough, that is why they failed to bring in subs on XM and that is why they are buried in the ratings. Yet you mention nationwide promotion?! Which one is it?
The "America's hottest and most controversial talk show hosts" on the XM site was a rotating banner on their site. Everytime you visited the site, there was someone else on as Americas hottest.

Most people here just talk negatively about O&A just as the people do with Stern on Wackbag. Theres even a writeup that appeared yesterday that says Stern is a fading star since he came to satelite. Take this thread as you will, or better yet, remember the old saying, opinions are like ***holes, everone has one.
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Old 11-11-2006, 06:41 PM   #32
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So, all of Mr. Stern's fans are CEO's? What company are you from? I need to invest some stock.
Sure, go ahead and invest in my company. What are shares of The United States Air Force going for these days?
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The "America's hottest and most controversial talk show hosts" on the XM site was a rotating banner on their site. Everytime you visited the site, there was someone else on as Americas hottest.

Most people here just talk negatively about O&A just as the people do with Stern on Wackbag. Theres even a writeup that appeared yesterday that says Stern is a fading star since he came to satelite. Take this thread as you will, or better yet, remember the old saying, opinions are like ***holes, everone has one.
I couldn't agree more, opinions are like asholes, however, numbers never lie, no matter how you try and spin them. #22 in NYC says a whole lot to me. So does and increase from 600,000 subs to 5.1 million subs.
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Old 11-11-2006, 07:14 PM   #34
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The "America's hottest and most controversial talk show hosts" on the XM site was a rotating banner on their site. Everytime you visited the site, there was someone else on as Americas hottest.

Most people here just talk negatively about O&A just as the people do with Stern on Wackbag. Theres even a writeup that appeared yesterday that says Stern is a fading star since he came to satelite. Take this thread as you will, or better yet, remember the old saying, opinions are like ***holes, everone has one.
Bla bla bla, ba blah bla, ba bla bla blah.

Your theory as to the relative importance of opinions about Howard/O&A would hold a lot more water if Howard had not ruled New York for 20 years and/or O&A would at least rise enough in the ratings to beat Imus. Until then, I think we know where the talent lies, "asshole" opinions or not.
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Bla bla bla, ba blah bla, ba bla bla blah.

Your theory as to the relative importance of opinions about Howard/O&A would hold a lot more water if Howard had not ruled New York for 20 years and/or O&A would at least rise enough in the ratings to beat Imus. Until then, I think we know where the talent lies, "asshole" opinions or not.
What are Howards ratings BTW? After all, aparently to you they are directly proportional to talent, right?

Give it a rest...
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What are Howards ratings BTW? After all, aparently to you they are directly proportional to talent, right?

Give it a rest...
Apparently you aren't aware that there is not a ratings system for satellite radio. You have to be on old fashioned, commercial filled, fucked up radio with 20 mins of commercials/hour to actually have ratings. However, when your poor ratings come out, you whine about the fact that another show's ratings screw up your 9-10 hour, or that your show doesn't get promoted enough, or that there is to much competition to get good ratings on FM radio nowadays. Did I get all the talking points down xyz?
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What are Howards ratings BTW? After all, aparently to you they are directly proportional to talent, right?

Give it a rest...
The last ratings book Howard had was at a station that ruled the #1 overall mornings slot in NY for decades and now is 18th. And if ratings are not considered directly proportional to talent, then how come your man Anthony went on a pages long wackbag tirade when someone dare to suggest that 18th overall was not doing so well? Certainly O&A feel that ratings are something that reflects their performance, no?

And I'll give it a rest when you decide to stop trolling. Deal?
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Apparently you aren't aware that there is not a ratings system for satellite radio. You have to be on old fashioned, commercial filled, fucked up radio with 20 mins of commercials/hour to actually have ratings. However, when your poor ratings come out, you whine about the fact that another show's ratings screw up your 9-10 hour, or that your show doesn't get promoted enough, or that there is to much competition to get good ratings on FM radio nowadays. Did I get all the talking points down xyz?
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Pssst, you forgot to brag about the demos. That's his favorite. Just be prepared to listen to him say he doesn't care about ratings and then ask for the thread to be closed. Just a friendly warning.
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Apparently you aren't aware that there is not a ratings system for satellite radio. You have to be on old fashioned, commercial filled, fucked up radio with 20 mins of commercials/hour to actually have ratings. However, when your poor ratings come out, you whine about the fact that another show's ratings screw up your 9-10 hour, or that your show doesn't get promoted enough, or that there is to much competition to get good ratings on FM radio nowadays. Did I get all the talking points down xyz?
Oh, I'm well aware, that was my point.

And I think you have me confused with O&A. *I* don't complain about my 9-10 hour. You guys are taking RADIO too SERIOUSLY.
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The last ratings book Howard had was at a station that ruled the #1 overall mornings slot in NY for decades and now is 18th. And if ratings are not considered directly proportional to talent, then how come your man Anthony went on a pages long wackbag tirade when someone dare to suggest that 18th overall was not doing so well? Certainly O&A feel that ratings are something that reflects their performance, no?

And I'll give it a rest when you decide to stop trolling. Deal?
Alright, well I think in a weird way we JUST AGREED that since Howard doesn't have ratings, and O&A don't have ratings on XM, and their FM ratings are decent in a lot of markets that NONE OF THIS MEANS ANYTHING ABOUT "TALENT" which is what the post I replied to was implying.

Get it? I don't see how this is "trolling" other than you wishing it was in your mind so you could hop on that elusive "reply" button...
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and their FM ratings are decent in a lot of markets that NONE OF THIS MEANS ANYTHING ABOUT "TALENT" which is what the post I replied to was implying.
18th overall is not "decent", especially in your hometown. And where are these elusive markets where they are doing "decent" that you speak of? They are doing their best numbers in NY and Boston and even there they are tanking (except in your all important demos, which mean squat). Plus, my point was that if Anthony is so worried about ratings, he must think they are a reflection of success and talent in some way or another, right?

Also, notice I know the usage of the word "elusive". Why you called the reply button "elusive" when it is at the bottom of each post is beyond me.

By the way, judging from your past overuse of capital letters, I predict a DEFCON 1 meltdown in about 2 posts.
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18th overall is not "decent", especially in your hometown. And where are these elusive markets where they are doing "decent" that you speak of? They are doing their best numbers in NY and Boston and even there they are tanking (except in your all important demos, which mean squat). Plus, my point was that if Anthony is so worried about ratings, he must think they are a reflection of success and talent in some way or another, right?

Also, notice I know the usage of the word "elusive". Why you called the reply button "elusive" when it is at the bottom of each post is beyond me.

By the way, judging from your past overuse of capital letters, I predict a DEFCON 1 meltdown in about 2 posts.
You're right. Ratings = Talent, no room for argument. Meltdown, complete.
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You're right. Ratings = Talent, no room for argument. Meltdown, complete.
The goal in free radio (specifically, the stated goal of O&A) is to gain listeners so advertising goes up. It can be said that if you are a talented radio host, you are able to gain listeners and thus be successful. Number of listeners is determined by ratings. Ipso facto, it can be said that Ratings = Talent.

Unless you want to say O&A's talent lies in not gaining listeners? If so, you'll get no argument from me.
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The only thing O&A were good for was the IRON SHEIK APPEARANCES!!!!!!!!! Classic radio in it's finest.
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Oh, I'm well aware, that was my point.

And I think you have me confused with O&A. *I* don't complain about my 9-10 hour. You guys are taking RADIO too SERIOUSLY.
Hmmm, this coming from the guy who once said......

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"I can't wait for OUR new logo to come out......"

Yet you say we take radio to seriously? I've never referred to any radio show as OUR's or MINE. Apparently you can't say the same.
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