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Old 01-10-2007, 10:17 AM   #1
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Robin just mentioned a new law in Bangor Maine where drivers can be fined for smoking in a car with children. This pisses me off beyond words! Its ok for the law to come into our lives more and more everyday. I feel bad for the next generation of imprisoned americans...
Does anyone else believe there is more dangerous toxins in the air we breath everyday then is in cigarettes...and what about exaust from cars...I think there is more danger in this to children then cig smoke. The government in the last several years has cut back on a ton of measures designed to keep industrial pullotion in check....but a citizin can't smoke aound a child...insane! I'm done...
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Old 01-10-2007, 10:32 AM   #2
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I quit smoking 10 days ago.

However, even when i did smoke, I'd never do it with kids in the car, nor did I ever smoke in my house because I realized that most people just don't like smoking.

anyway, I don't think this should be a law, but I just think it is common sense not to smoke around children.
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Most everything is bad for you. Smoking in a car when a child is present is something that can be easily stoped. Making car exhaust smell like roses and be good for you is kinda hard. I hate all of this gov't interference, like making us wear seatbetls, I always wear one, always have, but I have truck plates on my Jeep, it's a nice loophole around the seat belt law. If second hand smoke is as bad as they say it is, why subject our childern to it? Hell here in Evansville, IN, we are smoke free, just went into effect last week. No smoking in restaurants. If a place is 21 and over, it will not go smoke free until 2009. Like I said, I hate all of these type laws, but if it's better for our future childern, then I'll just get over it. I guess it's a little wrong to make a child breath in all of the poisonous gas that is contained in cigarette smoke. siriusurfer, are you a smoker?
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I don't smoke so it doesn't affect me, but I'm sure I wouldn't be happy if I did.

It's kind of like how they have emission tests for all cars, but everytime I see a bus go a big cloud of colored smoke surrounds me. Always makes me wonder if they have the same laws.
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Most everything is bad for you. Smoking in a car when a child is present is something that can be easily stoped. Making car exhaust smell like roses and be good for you is kinda hard. I hate all of this gov't interference, like making us wear seatbetls, I always wear one, always have, but I have truck plates on my Jeep, it's a nice loophole around the seat belt law. If second hand smoke is as bad as they say it is, why subject our childern to it? Hell here in Evansville, IN, we are smoke free, just went into effect last week. No smoking in restaurants. If a place is 21 and over, it will not go smoke free until 2009. Like I said, I hate all of these type laws, but if it's better for our future childern, then I'll just get over it. I guess it's a little wrong to make a child breath in all of the poisonous gas that is contained in cigarette smoke. siriusurfer, are you a smoker?

Wow, it only went into effect last week? We've been smoke free, regardless of a patrons age, in these parts for years. I think having places smoke free is a good thing. I also think you would have to be one helluva asshole to smoke anywhere near children. By the way, I smoked for ten years and slip back into it from time to time.
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Wow, it only went into effect last week? We've been smoke free, regardless of a patrons age, in these parts for years. I think having places smoke free is a good thing. I also think you would have to be one helluva asshole to smoke anywhere near children. By the way, I smoked for ten years and slip back into it from time to time.
This in Indiana man, not NY. We's kinda slow here. I love going out to eat not not smelling smoke, it's great.
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I just think it is common sense not to smoke around children.
If you replace the word "children" with "other people who don't wish to breathe smoke, or are too young to make a choice about smoking", then I couldn't agree more.

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So I guess the OP is pissed about seatbelt laws too?

If you smoke in a car with children, you should be ashamed of yourself. I'm an ex-smoker myself and I would never dream of smoking in a tight area like that.

Your excuses regarding air pollution are insane too. Yes, I believe cigarette smoke is way worse than what you would normally breathe every day.

You say you're done. Done with with....?
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What been irking me lately is they're trying to ban smoking in the Atlantic City casinos. Like in Vegas, those casinos have spent millions on ventilation systems to keep the air clean in the casino areas, and those systems work extremely well. Casinos should be a place where people can just chill out and enjoy themselves, smoking outside seems ridiculous.


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anyway, I don't think this should be a law, but I just think it is common sense not to smoke around children.
The problem is that many people don't have common sense. To me, it seems like common sense to not smoke knowing what we know about it these days...

I grew up around a father that smoked and there wasn't the concept of second-hand smoke being harmful back then. I used to cringe when i would hear him push in the cig lighter on the car. Nowadays, he only smokes outside.

BTW, the gov't does take steps to clean up car exhaust. It's a rather silly argument to say they shouldn't try to protect people from one harmful substance because there are other harmful substances in the world. And the last time I checked, a person's child is a citizen as well...

IMO, the stupid part is that they are trying to regulate when and where you can or can't smoke instead of just outlawing tobacco altogether.
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Yes I am a smoker and no I don't smoke around my children. I just feel if the gov really cared the would go after the big polluters(big buineness) but that won't happen because they pay the most money. So until people stand up and tell the gov to get out of our cars,homes,and mail we get to be treated like children ourselves...now if you'll excuse me I'm gonna go play a game on my tv and watch the newest cartoon movie that just broke the boxoffice
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The person is all worked up because they are a smoker, an abused minority. Unfortunately, lawmakers have to sometimes legislate common sense. People are so attached to their habits, so obsessed with their "rights" that they won't listen to reason.

The law was probably passed for safety reasons. The smoker is distracted from driving. For example, if the smoker accidentally drops the cigarette. All attention to driving goes out the window as they frantically try to locate the butt. I'm sure this has caused more than a few serious accidents.
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The anti-smoking Nazis are taking over this country.

MYOB!

The Phoenix airport has restaurants w/ smoking sections - love it.

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The person is all worked up because they are a smoker, an abused minority. Unfortunately, lawmakers have to sometimes legislate common sense. People are so attached to their habits, so obsessed with their "rights" that they won't listen to reason.

The law was probably passed for safety reasons. The smoker is distracted from driving. For example, if the smoker accidentally drops the cigarette. All attention to driving goes out the window as they frantically try to locate the butt. I'm sure this has caused more than a few serious accidents.
I keep waiting for the ha..ha.. At the end of your post. In this day and age of gadgets you will put this law on distracted driving? Ha..ha.. You put the word RIGHTS in paranthesis to me that just proves how undeserving some people are of said rights.
I may be in the minority but I wonder who will speak out when the gov tells you what you can eat...I'm afraid this is coming soon.
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The person is all worked up because they are a smoker, an abused minority. Unfortunately, lawmakers have to sometimes legislate common sense. People are so attached to their habits, so obsessed with their "rights" that they won't listen to reason.

The law was probably passed for safety reasons. The smoker is distracted from driving. For example, if the smoker accidentally drops the cigarette. All attention to driving goes out the window as they frantically try to locate the butt. I'm sure this has caused more than a few serious accidents.
I don't think it's about distraction, since it only applies when kids are in the car.
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