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Old 01-09-2007, 06:19 PM   #1
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<img align="right" src="http://www.siriusbackstage.com/downloads/Sirius-Backseat-TV.jpg">Orbitcast has a <a href=http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/ces-siriusconnect-scv1-audio/video-tuner-sirius-backseat-tv.html>bajillion photos</a> of the new Backseat TV unit. It is the SC-V1, distributed through Directed Electronics, and will be available in the spring for $299. It comes with what looks like a modified Starbase so you can listen to the radio in the front, and a large SiriusConnect tuner. A remote is available too, for the backseat.

Currently, Cartoon Network is up and running on the TVs, so they will be a likely content partner, and rumor is Nickelodeon will be too.

There are still many questions to be answered for this. Will it be a simulcast of the Cartoon Network/Nick feeds, or a custom one that does not include kid-unfriendly material like Nick at Nite or Adult Swim? How much more will video cost? Since it is a 'multi-zone' tuner, my guess is it will be two subscriptions for the audio and video, so $19.94/month.

Where is Sirius getting the bandwidth? This is probably going to be the primary use of HM, Hierarchical Modulation. The technology was unveiled in 2004, and it was supposed to increase Sirius' bandwidth by 25%. It never materialized though. They could be providing this, and other future ancillary services, through HM because the technology is not backwards-compatible, which means that certain older radios would not be able to receive it. By doing it this way, there are no complaints as to why Joe Schmoe cannot recieve the same channels that his buddy is.

Looking at the future, could this ever move out of the backseat market to the portable? The <a href=http://www.siriusbackstage.com/kb/S50>S50</a> and <a href=http://www.siriusbackstage.com/kb/Stiletto>Stiletto</a> have full-color screens almost as big as the video iPod. It would not be hard to enlarge the screen to 2.5" for the next generation, have 4-8GB of memory, and watch TV on the go, and/or have a built in DVR for recording it. My guess would be that one could store 20 hours of Sirius video on a 4 GB drive, if the player can compress it to a size that is smaller, yet good enough quality for a 2.5-3" screen. If that was the new live wearable for this year, it would turn heads, plus add some more revenue to Sirius' bottom line.
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Old 01-09-2007, 06:55 PM   #2
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This looks interesting. The other detail I thought stood out was the use of 2 magnetic antennas to provide spatial diversity.

Love to hear more about content providers...
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Without a significant amount of channels, I can't see this going anywhere. It's a total novelty item.
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Without a significant amount of channels, I can't see this going anywhere. It's a total novelty item.
There won't be alot of channels, there is simply no bandwidth. As for "novelty" I guess it depends on how you define novelty. Will it be in every car? No. But backseat video is becoming more and more popular, especially in vans and the like. It may be profitable. Mel has in the past indicated that there will be 3 content providers, probably along the lines of the cartoon network, Nickalodeon, and the like. Wish they would consider ESPN for those of us who like to tailgate at the football games!!
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<img align="right" src="http://www.siriusbackstage.com/downloads/Sirius-Backseat-TV.jpg">Orbitcast has a <a href=http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/ces-siriusconnect-scv1-audio/video-tuner-sirius-backseat-tv.html>bajillion photos</a> of the new Backseat TV unit. It is the SC-V1, distributed through Directed Electronics, and will be available in the spring for $299. It comes with what looks like a modified Starbase so you can listen to the radio in the front, and a large SiriusConnect tuner. A remote is available too, for the backseat.
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sorry, but this one doesnt make it for me. I personally would have ditched this idea (and the expense) in favor of paying down debt, or continuing to signing content. Or even start adding channels to the HM section and phase out older radios, but the first two seemed like a better idea.

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Novelty is exactly right. Talk about a waste of resources! I honestly don't know how the bandwidth was allocated for this, but any of it could have gone to improving SQ or adding new channels...someone should be shot!

And furthermore, it's being wasted on children's programming?! If there's a chance in hell I'm having to endure subpar SQ just so a soccer mom can keep her snot rag entertained for a few minutes, that just doesn't set right with me!!

If they absolutely insist on having video--why not use it for a vehicle version of "Howard TV"? Obviously it wouldn't be capable of taking advantage of the On Demand technology, but it'd be an alternative means for those of us who don't have access to HTV.
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If this has Cartoon Network, count me sold on it. I may be grown, but I still like cartoons, especially Adult Swim. It would be great to listen to it on the road, and watch (sorta).

If this is $299, I am VERY thankful that I didn't get the TV tuner for my in-dash navigation/video system. (I knew that the analog stuff would be shut down around the corner, anyway). If one would connect with Pioneer's AVIC series, I'd be sold.

The video quality looks wonderful.
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This looks interesting. The other detail I thought stood out was the use of 2 magnetic antennas to provide spatial diversity.

Love to hear more about content providers...

Where did you get the 2 magnetic antenna deal?

They only showed it with one and claim you would only need one antenna.

It will only likely have 3 channels. And at this point I don't think the decision has been made who the 3 are.

I've had people call in the past for this. They basically want something simple to tend to kids in the backseats.
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My first reaction is that video is a mistake but I need to see more information about content, price, how it works, what effect it will have on audio quality and lack there of.

I am about "subscriptioned out " so to speak with Pay Radio, Cable, Cell, MP3 service, et al, perhaps many others are to. .
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Designed as a multi-zone univeral system, the kit includes the SC-V1 A/V Tuner module, a wired display control unit, wireless audio remote control, wireless video remote control, remote eye (for rear seat control), FM switching interface, two mini magnetic antennas, and removable mounting plates.
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There’s also a dedicated remote control for backseat passengers to change video channels and a diversity antenna system for maximum signal reception.
I agree that the pictures are pretty, but you need to read the words too, Taylor!

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I really think that this waste of bandwidth is going to fail. If you've got a car or SUV with the video screens you'll probably just going to plug in a cheapo DVD player for the snot nosed kids and be done with it. If you're really into video stuff, you're going to laugh at this. This just kills the bandwidth for the mainstay of what SIRIUS is radio, for a very limited, poor quality, secondary offering.
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No this is a lot of assuming going on.
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. By doing it this way, there are no complaints as to why Joe Schmoe cannot recieve the same channels that his buddy is.

Hey! This Joe Schmoe STILL isn't getting all the Canadian channel he should on his Brix Streamer!!!!
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The question is, are people willing to pay a monthly fee for two or three kid's TV channels to be broadcast into the back of their van or SUV? This seems like a real niche market to me.
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