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Old 02-02-2005, 11:27 AM   #1
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Default XAct XTR1 & Delphi XM FM Direct type install question

Hi, I have been enjoying Sirius for about the last 6 weeks now. The only downside so far is the bleeding of other stations when using the built in FM Modulator. We live about 30 miles south of Austin and 40 miles north of San Antonio. If we drive to Austin, one frequency needs to be used and if we drive to San Antonio, another frequency must be used. I hate trying to switch frequencies on the XAct while driving and my wife won't mess with it. I understand the SIRSWB and SATSWB will not work with the XAct since it does not have an FM out (only Audio out). However, it seems that something like the Delphi XM FM Direct would work perfect. http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/Man...040SA10112.PDF

Is there a similar device for Sirius units?

We could use a cassette adapter, but it does not make for a very "clean" install.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 02-04-2005, 05:48 PM   #2
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Ive been watching this thread also. I really want to know what I can do to avoid using the FM modulator. I dont have cassette, so I wonder if the Xact Stream Jockey has another way to connect?

Im really hoping someone has an answer on this, I've tried using the search feature to no avail
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Old 02-08-2005, 10:20 PM   #3
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Please! Someone must be able to let Gary and I know if the equivalent product exists for Sirius or not.
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Old 02-09-2005, 01:11 AM   #4
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An external FM modulator is an option it would plug into a cig lighter and your audio out. Another option is yes the cassete adapater there is some good installs with cassette decks that look flush you just cant eject the cassette adapater after that. As you didnt state what kind of car/head unit you have I cant tell if a Soundgate or a PIE interface would work for you. Another option is get a starbase which has the fm modulator I belive it also includes the SATSWB .
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Old 02-09-2005, 01:38 AM   #5
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A cheaper way is to just unhook your antenna from your deck. You should still get strong local FM stations, but cut out all the weaker ones and the FM transmitter on the Xact will not have any interfernce.
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Old 02-09-2005, 02:21 PM   #6
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There might be various options for you depending on the car and headunit you have. Do you have an aftermaket stereo or is it the one that came with the car? What type of car and which ausio system does it have. That delphi unit looks like delphi's equivalent to the SATSWB.

There are FM modulators that create AUX inputs and allow you to plug in RCA jacks. Just one example:

JVC FM Modulator
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Old 02-10-2005, 11:35 AM   #7
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That delphi part is the equivalent of a SIRSWB or SATSWB. If your PNP has a 1/8" jack you need a SIRSWB if it has a 3/32" jack you need the SATSWB. Typically older radios like the PNP2 use the SIRSWB and Sportsters/PNP3s etc. use the SATSWB. These products will completely eliminate interference from FM stations.

Alternatively you can go to logjamelectronics.com or crutchfield.com and see if they have an AUX-IN adapter for your radio. If they do have one for your radio it will give you the best possible audio quality from the PNP.
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Thank you all for your replies.

Colk: I was trying to avoid an external FM modulator since the the XAct unit has a built in FM modulator. Although it would work, it would be redundant, adding to the cost. The vehicle is a 2003 Ford E150 conversion van. The headunit is a factory Ford unit with both cassete and single cd. It does not appear to have controls for a cd changer.

Chilman2: Thanks for the suggestion, but unfortunately where we live, nearly all stations are non-local. This wouldn't bother me, but it would drive my wife nuts since she likes to listen for local weather.

TimF: We have a factory Ford unit with cassette and single cd in a 2003 E150 conversion van. Thank you for the suggestion on the JVC modulator, but as metioned above, wouldn't it be somewhat redundant since the XAct unit has a built in FM modulator? I like the fact that it is "hardwired" to the antenna, which is why I was asking if there was an equivalent to the Delphi part.

dantodd: From what I have read in this forum, the SIRSWB and the SATSWB are different from the Delphi part in that the SIRSWB and SATSWB can only accept the FM signal from the unit and the XAct unit only has an AUX out, not an FM out. Thus the SIRSWB and SATSWB do no work with the XAct unit. What seemed unique (at least to me) was that the Delphi unit does not appear to require an FM out. In Figure 2 of the manual, the only connection shown between the XM unit and the Delphi unit is from the Delphi unit to the XM Antenna In. I have to admit, just from looking at the diagram, I am not sure how this works. My guess is that when the XM unit is on and power is sent to the Delphi unit, the over the air signals are not allowed through to the stereo's "Antenna In" and instead the XM signal is passed through.

Perhaps I should have stated my question differently. Is there an equivalent to the SATSWB/SIRSWB for the XAct units, i.e. one that works with AUX OUT and does not require an FM out?

Again, any suggestions, comments, or clarifications would be greatly appreciated.
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It seems to me that both the XM direct unit and the Sat-SWB both work the same. They just hook up differently. To answer your question bluntly, no there is no product that operates like the XM direct for a Sirius reciever. The lack of the FM out jack in the Xact unit seems like a serious oversight on Directed's part. Probably your only options are an external FM modulator, a tape adapter, an aux adapter for your stock HU or to get a new head unit that has an aux in.
Edited to clarify something up. It was mentioned before, but you might be able to get an adapter for the back of your stock head unit to give you an aux in.
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Old 02-11-2005, 12:26 PM   #10
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Probably your only options are an external FM modulator, a tape adapter, or to get a new head unit that has an aux in.
Thanks for the clarification. That is what I was afraid of.
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Old 02-11-2005, 12:35 PM   #11
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You can always listen with headphones. Of course this isn't necessarily desirable while driving. I've done it before and the sound is GREAT!

You can get a splitter if there are multiple people in the car.
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