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Old 02-06-2005, 11:29 PM   #1
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Just finished it! A few prerequisets: My truck is a K1500, 5-speed, 4x4 with the floor shifter, not push button, bucket seats. I ran the antenna in through the third brake light, and along the top of the drivers side molding, down the edge of the windshield trim, and down to the bottom side of the dash. I used a $.99 plastic putty knife to help get the wire in behind the trim in places. Then I fed the antenna along the bottom of the dash, then up and out by the speedometer.(Look at the pics) Saved me from drilling a hole to feed the wires through. This location seemed best, and doesn't block my view of the guages from the drivers seat. I also have another pic attached that shows where I mounted my HAM radio. I had my Sportster there for a while. It slips between the coin holder and the console. It works great for the HAM radio, but is to low for the Sportser.



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Looks awesome... only suggestion I might have is to drill out a small hole above your mounting bracket to hide the wiring.

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Don't listen to CarbonBowtie, he'd drill one of his teeth out to have a clean install. ROTFLOL. Just kidding of course, its not a bad suggestion, though I understand not wanting to drill. I have a very clean cradle install in my truck for my Audiovox XR9. SIRIUS is a head unit install, so of course its the cleanest install of all.
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The piece behind where you mounted the cradle (where the push-button 4x4 thing would be) comes out. Drill a small hole in your mount (aka no drilling on the truck), and pop out the block off piece behind where the mount is stuck. Run the wires thru there, and then the wires won't be exposed.
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The antenna connector is way to big to drill a hole to feed it through, that's why I fed it through the corner of the speedo shroud, plus there was a small gap there that didn't require any drilling. The mount is actually screwed to the cap that nitrousbird is refering to. I just couldn't trust the 2 sided tape, and I'm sure I could get another cap at the junk yard on the cheap.
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Great install ideas, thanks for posting this! I'll post photos of mine once I'm done, due to the fact that my 98 K1500 is almost opposite yours in configuration (bench seat, automatic, pushbutton 4x4, tape deck with separate cd unit) I've got a somewhat different idea about how to install mine.

But a couple questions:

1. To do the 3rd brakelight trick, how did you get the antenna through to the cab? It appears you have to remove the plastic interior panel above the back window (between the seatbelts). How does this piece come out? Or am I totally wrong about needing to remove it?

2. I presume you ran the wiring along the plastic trim above the window/door on the driver's side and down in behind the windshield, it appears there is good room there to stick the wire in out of site. The two front pieces of the dash (lower front panel, and instrument/radio/hvac pieces) come out easily enough. Is there a neater solution to get the wire from the base of the windshield through to the dash? Or did you just tape it along the side inbetween the door and go into the dash from there?
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Don't listen to CarbonBowtie, he'd drill one of his teeth out to have a clean install. ROTFLOL. Just kidding of course, its not a bad suggestion, though I understand not wanting to drill. I have a very clean cradle install in my truck for my Audiovox XR9. SIRIUS is a head unit install, so of course its the cleanest install of all.
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But a couple questions:

1. To do the 3rd brakelight trick, how did you get the antenna through to the cab? It appears you have to remove the plastic interior panel above the back window (between the seatbelts). How does this piece come out? Or am I totally wrong about needing to remove it?
Very carefuly, and in warmer weather, you have to pull the panel down, but you won't have to remove it. I made a wire puller from a coat hanger, and fed it in from the outside in. I have another post out there, because I broke every body clip off the panel. Of course, it was 30 degrees outside when I had to install the darn thing. Look for my posts, and you will find it. Another person recomended a tool to help the removal of the clips. Don't forget some silicone sealent around the wire.

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2. I presume you ran the wiring along the plastic trim above the window/door on the driver's side and down in behind the windshield, it appears there is good room there to stick the wire in out of site. The two front pieces of the dash (lower front panel, and instrument/radio/hvac pieces) come out easily enough. Is there a neater solution to get the wire from the base of the windshield through to the dash? Or did you just tape it along the side inbetween the door and go into the dash from there?
I ran it along the top of the molding on the drivers side all the way to, and down the winshield pilar, around, and down the edge of the dash, and out at the bottom of the dash. I'm out of town right now, but I can take a few more pics to show the path if you would like.

I may have to set up a poll to see if the majority of these guys want me to drill a hole in my precious dash! Seems like they want me too!
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Thanks so much for your help Silverado, appreciate the advice for sure. Got it all installed yesterday. Heh, 30 degrees? You had a heatwave!

Yeah sounds like the dremel crowd is alive and well. I think my install turned out well, but I could've taken a dremel to the bracket I used to make it fit better. The lock on the back of the PNP3 cradle is stuck in the unlock position, blocked by mounting it directly to the bracket. I used an existing cellphone bracket (stamped PROFIT, forgot to take the part number stamped on it). Nicely slanted towards the driver, fine by me, but may be a little low for some tastes. Don't know where you would buy this, possibly a car accesory shop, or cellphone/radio shop, or even chevy.

I dare anybody to find the wires hidden through the panels and dash.....

...... without following the trail of broken plastic bits

I actually don't think I broke anything. Just have to do the silicon sealant now. Here's the final pic of an alternate install for this era of chev trucks, one which may work better for those with automatic transmissions. Probably in the way though for trucks like yours with manual shift.

In addition to cutting up the bracket a bit, other possible future mods include hardwiring the power and using a tape adapter with hidden wiring similar to the current power setup. This is using the FM mod currently. If I understand right, I can't use the PIE adapter on this radio without taking out the CD. Very future modifications would be a new headunit with mp3 cd and sirius. Didn't want to go that extreme yet (and try to find the pocket that would be in place of the factory CD)

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Mounting bracket & power:
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Nice Install!! I had looked at using the same bracket, but it was too low on the dash for me, plus I was concerned about the gear shift hitting it.
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It is down low, I can definitely see how it would be too low for some. I usually just use the presets by feel, while you're driving it seems not a good idea to take your eyes off the road for any longer than a quick glance at the title/artist (ie not enough time to find a new station with the tuning knob). Hard to tell from the pics, but yeah I'd agree, I think you'd run into space issues with a floor shifter using that bracket, it doesn't look like there would be enough room there if mine was a manual model.

Another question? Did you hardwire to your headunit, or just use the FM tuner. I think I see only 2 wires in your pic, antenna and power, so I'm assuming you just used the fm? It seems to work well enough, but was wondering if the cd/radio unit from that era truck would take the PIE adapter? My understanding from their site is that the tape unit such as I have can take only 1 aux input (the cd player). If the cd unit can take an aux, then thinking of maybe finding one of those at a junkyard or ebay to replace the tape/cd combo mine came with.
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I have the little FM tail in there too. I want to try a PIE also, but I had seen a site saying that the CD only radios like mine didn't have changer controls until '01. So the adapter won't work. I think I will end up with a SATSWB if I can ever find one! This might work with my radio, as it has the year listed, but it also mentions Changer controls!?!? http://www.autotoys.com/x/catalog/GM...H__p_4296.html

If you look at this pic from PIE's site, it mentions my single CD unit's lack of changer controls at the bottom. http://www.pie.net/images/products/d...9_aux_diag.gif

I guess it's SATSWB for us, short of a new head unit.
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Thanks for that link to PIE 98, I missed that note on the pic the first time I looked at it. Guess it's like mine then too, where the aux input is meant to control the slave cd and nothing else. I may still go PIE if I can find an 01 or 02 head unit (I think until 03 they used the same look and presumably the same connections of HU's) cheap from a wrecker (they're surprisingly expensive on fleabay). You're probably right, the SATSWB is probably the best most economical option. I've got the choice of trying a tape adapter too (hey gotta use that outdated technology for something) which might also be an improvement. I hate to say though, I am tempted by a new headunit, that Kenwood one with the 3 lines in the other thread looks really nice! If only I could get over the non-OEM look, and the fact that IMO the GM HU's have much better ergonomics (nice big buttons, non-flashy interface) than aftermarket units I've seen. That would also mean another Sirius subscription so that option is definitely far in the future for me if I do that.

What is the FM line for, I can see the 3 wires now that I look at your original pic more closely?
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It's just the little 'range extender' tail that plugs in to the dock. I have also looked on the auctions for a factory HU, but they are CRAZY exspensive. For that amount, you could get a great aftermarket HU that's brand new! I haven't tried any salvage yards, but I'd bet they're not much cheaper.
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It's just the little 'range extender' tail that plugs in to the dock. I have also looked on the auctions for a factory HU, but they are CRAZY exspensive. For that amount, you could get a great aftermarket HU that's brand new! I haven't tried any salvage yards, but I'd bet they're not much cheaper.
Maybe the salvage yards won't be. I'll report back when/if I find anything out. Yeah I was shocked to find out how expensive the auctions were! I figured people would've ripped out the factory stuff for aftermarket and be getting rid of it relatively cheaply. Nope. At >$100 US for some of the completed auctions, yeah you could go buy a great aftermarket unit. And apparently pay for it by auctioning off the factory stuff pulled out. Thankfully I don't live in an area that has much for FM so I can work around static if any comes in.
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