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Old 08-10-2005, 08:48 AM   #16
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Update: I called Sirius and they said that that FM modulator that Circuit City sold me is fine to use, I just needed to put it on a station that has only static to prevent all the bleedthrough. The "s" sounds are still a bit unclear though, which is why I'm going to Circuit City now to make them make sure that all the wires and everything are hooked up correctly. Problem partially solved, I guess.
Also, regarding the hot temperature of the radio receiver, I was told to put the brightness down a bit, and it seems to have worked, but only time will tell for sure.
hmm. personally i would still make them install the satswb. i dont trust the wireless fm transmitters. they usualy have poor sound quality.
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Old 08-10-2005, 10:02 AM   #17
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From my understanding the satswb and the Delphi FM Modulator are functioning in the same way. They both connect via the antenna of the car radio. The main difference is in the way they connect to the unit. On The XM unit, the XM antenna connects to the FM modulator which then connects to the unit.
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Old 08-10-2005, 11:00 AM   #18
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Most SIRIUS radios have an FM transmitter built into the radio or the cradle. You do not need an FM modulator; I would return it.

You need a properly installed SATSWB or better yet get an AUX IN converter. Check out logjam to see if one is available for your car. If you are not sure if one will work with your car, then go to PIE.net and give them a call or send an e-mail for help.
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Old 08-10-2005, 01:06 PM   #19
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Update: I called Sirius and they said that that FM modulator that Circuit City sold me is fine to use, I just needed to put it on a station that has only static to prevent all the bleedthrough. The "s" sounds are still a bit unclear though, which is why I'm going to Circuit City now to make them make sure that all the wires and everything are hooked up correctly. Problem partially solved, I guess.
Also, regarding the hot temperature of the radio receiver, I was told to put the brightness down a bit, and it seems to have worked, but only time will tell for sure.
I wouldn't put too much creedence into what that rep is telling you. First off, it should't matter what station you use, even one with a full broadcast signal. The function of the SATSWB is to switch off the feed from your car's external antenna signal completely, so only your Sirius feed is input. What they told you is true only for the FM transmitter, which sends the signal through the air and is subject to interference. Going back to your previous posts, it sounds like the problem is that CC didn't hook it up properly (the audio plug was left out). Plus, I would insist they use the correct part, not the Delphi item. Nobody else in this forum that is using the SATSWB has a problem of static and "s" distortion.
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Old 08-13-2005, 05:47 PM   #20
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PhillyPhan and LarryBS - So both of you say that I should not be using the FM modulator by Delphi but one of you says that I should use an AUX IN converter while the other says I should use a SATSWB. Which one should I use or is there any difference? Can I buy the Logjam products anywhere or just on their website (I'm assuming only their website)? When I get the Logjam product if I order it, should I bring it back to Circuit City so they can install it there? Also, when I called Circuit City to ask about the "Audio" plug that isn't there they said that that is for an AUX IN unit, confusing me further. By the way, I don't have static anymore, just a slight distortion of the "s" sounds. Thanks for your continued help and I look forward to your reply.
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PhillyPhan and LarryBS - So both of you say that I should not be using the FM modulator by Delphi but one of you says that I should use an AUX IN converter while the other says I should use a SATSWB. Which one should I use or is there any difference? Can I buy the Logjam products anywhere or just on their website (I'm assuming only their website)? When I get the Logjam product if I order it, should I bring it back to Circuit City so they can install it there? Also, when I called Circuit City to ask about the "Audio" plug that isn't there they said that that is for an AUX IN unit, confusing me further. By the way, I don't have static anymore, just a slight distortion of the "s" sounds. Thanks for your continued help and I look forward to your reply. :)
I know.. this can be confusing at first.
An SATSWB is an FM modulator. The Delphi one may be OK, but Circuit City carries this one Sirius FM Module Relay that definitely works with Sirius receivers. If they don't have it in stock then they should be getting it. It's a common item. I don't know if there is any difference in the ciruitry or not, but I do see that the Delphi unit has three FM frequencies to chose from, where the Sirius one uses what ever station you want. It just takes the audio out from your unit and converts it to an FM signal and directly into the FM input. As I mentioned before, judging by your post where you say there are no other wires coming from your cradle other than the antenna and power, it sounds like they forgot to plug into the FM-OUT. If that's true, then you're probably actually just using the FM transmitter (over the air transmission) from your receiver. There is no hardwired connection to your Sirius receiver.

An AUDIO IN converter is altogether different. This is a more expensive but superior SQ method. It adds an audio input to your car's stereo, then you would use the RCA patch cord that came with your car kit to wire directly to your radio. Think of it like adding component, like you would a CD or tape deck to home system. You would have to research what might be available for your particular radio, or maybe someone here knows.
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PhillyPhan and LarryBS - So both of you say that I should not be using the FM modulator by Delphi but one of you says that I should use an AUX IN converter while the other says I should use a SATSWB. Which one should I use or is there any difference? Can I buy the Logjam products anywhere or just on their website (I'm assuming only their website)? When I get the Logjam product if I order it, should I bring it back to Circuit City so they can install it there? Also, when I called Circuit City to ask about the "Audio" plug that isn't there they said that that is for an AUX IN unit, confusing me further. By the way, I don't have static anymore, just a slight distortion of the "s" sounds. Thanks for your continued help and I look forward to your reply.
I know.. this can be confusing at first.
An SATSWB is an FM modulator. The Delphi one may be OK, but Circuit City carries this one Sirius FM Module Relay that definitely works with Sirius receivers. If they don't have it in stock then they should be getting it. It's a common item. I don't know if there is any difference in the ciruitry or not, but I do see that the Delphi unit has three FM frequencies to chose from, where the Sirius one uses what ever station you want. It just takes the audio out from your unit and converts it to an FM signal and directly into the FM input. As I mentioned before, judging by your post where you say there are no other wires coming from your cradle other than the antenna and power, it sounds like they forgot to plug into the audio-out. If that's true, then you're probably actually just using the FM transmitter (over the air transmission) from your receiver. There is no hardwired connection to your Sirius receiver.

An AUDIO IN converter is altogether different. This is a more expensive but superior SQ method. It adds an audio input to your car's stereo, then you would use the RCA patch cord that came with your car kit to wire directly to your radio. Think of it like adding component, like you would a CD or tape deck to home system. You would have to research what might be available for your particular radio, or maybe someone here knows.
The reason that Circuit City didn't originally use the Sirius FM modulator is because of a difference in voltage for the power unit, according to them. I wish I could be clearer but that's what the guy told me. Also, according to Logjam's website, the AUX IN piece made for the Mustang may not work with the Mach 460 sound system, which is the sound system I have. It is an in-dash 6-disc CD changer, and apparently that has caused some issues or something with the AUX IN unit.
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Old 08-13-2005, 11:51 PM   #23
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Addendum to my last post: the bottom line is that I want the best sound possible, and after doing some more research on this, I can see that I will accomplish that by using the AUX IN setup, if possible on a Mach 460 system by Visteon. According to the Logjam website, the AUX IN unit works with "some" of the in-dash 6-disc CD-changers...I wonder why it is only "some"...nonetheless, it also says that it is incompatible with the Mach 460, which makes me wonder if I'm screwed as far as getting an AUX IN connection. I really appreciate all your guys' help and I look forward to the next reply.
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The reason that Circuit City didn't originally use the Sirius FM modulator is because of a difference in voltage for the power unit, according to them. I wish I could be clearer but that's what the guy told me. Also, according to Logjam's website, the AUX IN piece made for the Mustang may not work with the Mach 460 sound system, which is the sound system I have. It is an in-dash 6-disc CD changer, and apparently that has caused some issues or something with the AUX IN unit.
The guy at Circuit City is wrong and is feeding you a line of bull. The FM modulator has nothing to do with "voltage of the power unit". It is simply feeds the signal directly from your Sirius receiver to your car's radio. There is no power or votage involved. More importantly, did you ask him about the missing wire from your PNP's FM OUT plug? If that is not connected, the modulator installation is totally worthless. It's like trying to water your garden with a hose that's not attached to the spigot.


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Addendum to my last post: the bottom line is that I want the best sound possible, and after doing some more research on this, I can see that I will accomplish that by using the AUX IN setup, if possible on a Mach 460 system by Visteon. According to the Logjam website, the AUX IN unit works with "some" of the in-dash 6-disc CD-changers...I wonder why it is only "some"...nonetheless, it also says that it is incompatible with the Mach 460, which makes me wonder if I'm screwed as far as getting an AUX IN connection. I really appreciate all your guys' help and I look forward to the next reply. :)
You may be screwed as far as adding athe AUX connection. Not all head units have a compatible system. The other option is the cassette adapter (if you have a cassette deck). This is the method I use and the SQ is quite good, definitely better than FM. I can't compare it to the AUX IN connection since I have never heard one.
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Update: I called Precision Interface Electronics, maker of those AUX IN units that a few people on here were talking about and apparently the incompatibility with the Mach 460 sound system is only in certain years of the Mustang car; it will work with my car's setup. I bought an AUX IN unit from an audio store in Los Angeles and I called Circuit City and made an appointment to bring the car in and have them install the AUX IN unit. Hopefully this will be the end of my problems with audio clarity and whatnot.
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Well, I took it back to Circuit City yesterday and they took it out and installed the AUX IN unit with no problem. In fact, at first they were going to refund me the Delphi unit and take that off the price of the installation but then they decided to not charge me anything. The sound is great with the AUX IN unit, much better than that Delphi FM modulator. I have noticed that the sound quality differs on certain stations but it is negligible. Anyway, as I said, it sounds great, and I would like to thank you all for helping me fix the problems I was having. Thanks!
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Well, I took it back to Circuit City yesterday and they took it out and installed the AUX IN unit with no problem. In fact, at first they were going to refund me the Delphi unit and take that off the price of the installation but then they decided to not charge me anything. The sound is great with the AUX IN unit, much better than that Delphi FM modulator. I have noticed that the sound quality differs on certain station but it is negligible. Anyway, as I said, it sounds great, and I would like to thank you all for helping me fix the problems I was having. Thanks! :D
Glad to help, and happy that you finally have an installation that you are happy with. You will have differing SQ on some stations, as do we all. That has nothing to do with your connection. It's normal and has to do with bandwidth allocation from Sirius. There are threads on this if you want further info.
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