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Old 08-18-2005, 06:57 AM   #16
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Well I have the antenna outside, I have moved it around a few times. I have it now where I think is probably the best position for it. I may have to live with the droputs I guess.

The Terk SIR6 appears to be around the $80US, I think I will just live with the drop-outs.

Is there anything that can be changed to the settings of the "antenna" in the Sportster Model? I notice a setting for the antenna? would this help?

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In my situation maybe the apartment building is somewhat in the way I dunno.
Just a few questions:

1) Is the antenna ouside with open sky above? Or is it inside a closed in deck/patio with a ceiling?

2) Are you aware that the antenna that comes with the home kit has a hinge that allows the face of the antenna to be angled? I didn't notice it whenI first got mine. When I figured it out, it made a huge difference. The antenna should be angled, not pointing straight up like the car antenna.

3) Not really a question but an answer to your antenna "setting" in the menu. That menu selection is your friend. When you go into it, it shows how strong your reception is, measured in "bars". So while you're in it, start moving your antenna around: different locations, different angles, etc., until you get the most bars. Even a few feet or inches, and the angle of the antenna face, can make a difference when you're not getting full signal strength.

As Michigan Made says: get it as high as possible, out in the open, and facing West or North (for Richmond, VA). I know that will be difficult because your condo faces south. That's why you need the extension that he mentioned.
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I just installed a Terk SIR6 antenna and 50' amplified extension cable. They work great. Some things to consider, though:
READ the instructions. I am an electronics technician by trade, so I didn't have any problems, but I glanced at the instructions anyway. The only thing most non techs might be tempted to do that could screw things up is over-torquing the connector. DON'T! Finger tight is adequate. At work I use a calibrated torque wrench set to 8 in./lbs. That is not a whole lot more than finger tight.
Carefully consider where you will mount the antenna. It's not a huge job, but it could become a pain if you do it over and over.
If you have a dish already mounted, consider using it as a mounting point. I have seen adapters that combine the satrad signal with the dish signal, then split them out again, indoors. That type of setup could save you a lot of cable run.
The outdoor antenna is NOT a miracle fix. Simply connecting one to your receiver in place of a standard indoor antenna will probably not help much. The big difference between the Terk SIR6 antenna and most other Sirius outdoor antennas I have researched is that Terk specifically designed the SIR6 to be mounted outdoors on a permanent basis. They also list specifications for the antenna; no other manufacturer does that. The SIR6 is a sturdy, durable antenna that should last years, but don't expect it to survive a lightning strike or stay up in a tornado.
The cable on the SIR6 is 30 feet long. That is longer than most, but you can get a nasty surprise if you don't measure the cable run.
Shop around. I got my Terk SIR6 antenna for $40. BB wanted $80. I got the extension cable for $18 ea. BB wanted $41 ea. Even with shipping included, I save quite a bit of money by waiting a few more days to take delivery.
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Well I have the antenna outside, I have moved it around a few times. I have it now where I think is probably the best position for it. I may have to live with the droputs I guess.

The Terk SIR6 appears to be around the $80US, I think I will just live with the drop-outs.

Is there anything that can be changed to the settings of the "antenna" in the Sportster Model? I notice a setting for the antenna? would this help?

Thanks

In my situation maybe the apartment building is somewhat in the way I dunno.
Just a few questions:

1) Is the antenna ouside with open sky above? Or is it inside a closed in deck/patio with a ceiling?

2) Are you aware that the antenna that comes with the home kit has a hinge that allows the face of the antenna to be angled? I didn't notice it whenI first got mine. When I figured it out, it made a huge difference. The antenna should be angled, not pointing straight up like the car antenna.

3) Not really a question but an answer to your antenna "setting" in the menu. That menu selection is your friend. When you go into it, it shows how strong your reception is, measured in "bars". So while you're in it, start moving your antenna around: different locations, different angles, etc., until you get the most bars. Even a few feet or inches, and the angle of the antenna face, can make a difference when you're not getting full signal strength.

As Michigan Made says: get it as high as possible, out in the open, and facing West or North (for Richmond, VA). I know that will be difficult because your condo faces south. That's why you need the extension that he mentioned.
Ohh just realized u replied to my post. Thanks.
The condo is not enclosed. I don't thin that extension SIR6 would help. I had a fairly regular signal for most of the day. Now it completely lost signal from about 5:10pmPST and now its 5:30pmPST and dead silence. I was hoping to hear the Steeler game. :\

I do face south into an open field, no obstructions. I have placed the antenna on the balcony barrier trying to face it east. I can't believe I have totally lost signal now for about 20min.

Maybe the front of the building is blocking some of the signal I dunno. Do u think this extension would work. Remembering I am in a condo so the deck isn't that big and regular 10-12feet in height.

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I could take pics but not sure how to post them here? That would prob help.
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Old 08-20-2005, 10:30 PM   #19
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I could take pics but not sure how to post them here? That would prob help.
Take the pics and I'll let you know how when you are ready.

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Thanks, too dark tonight hehe but will get on this tomorrow and go from there.

Thanks for your patience along with everyone else replying to my posts.
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Okay, this is my attempt at posting some pics LOL, crossing my fingers it works. If it does thanks to Michigan Made for his help. Or else I maybe did something wrong.

This is how I have my home antenna set up temporarily and searching for a more stable signal. I have three pics: one picture is a view south pretty much and the other two are the actual antenna and the side of my condo building.





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Great job on the pics, they worked!!

I see you don't have much of a balcony to put it on.

Instead of sright up, have you tried to put the stand flat and angle the antenna?

I still think you could sneak it in the roof.

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Hmmm I can try to angle it but I certainly can't get to the roof LOL.

Perhaps the trees maybe in the way too I dunno, just weird that it will work for a long period of time then blank out for along period too.

You mean instead of opening the antenna all the way right, angle it like half way open??
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Yes, try that and see what happens.

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That fat base piece is the antenna correct? Is the whole thing the antenna or does the antenna face a specific direction??

Should I try facing it into the sky or does it really need to face east as the map shows if I lived in the Northwest of US...I do live Northwest but in BC.

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p.s seems i get 6bars then 3 bars most of the time, then no bars.

God I hope I can figure this out---I would be so happy if i could get the home thingy working more stable.

Pretty happy in the car....perhaps I can save money and live in my car.
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The silver piece in your second posted pic is the bottom or the stand. The antenna is the other piece.

I would try to get it as up and east as you can. I know it seem difficult.

If you live in your car, you'll save big $$.

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LOL okay, this is getting very technical but I am gonna try and get a compass and see exactly where due east really is.

Sooo condo? or car? hmmmmm
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LOL okay, this is getting very technical but I am gonna try and get a compass and see exactly where due east really is.

Sooo condo? or car? hmmmmm
I'll check to see how you are doing tomorrow.

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Yeah, the way you have the antenna hooked over the railing ledge is not going to be very effective. First of, as MM said, the silver part is the bottom of the base. The black part is the antenna. When the aiming instructions say face to the west or north, it means towards the western or northern sky, which means you have to angle it at about 45 degrees or so, like a satellite dish (like this /_ , but angled upwards a little more). Also, it's hard to tell for sure, but it looks like there's a roof over your balcony, which would be a definite signal blocker. If there is any way you can get it outside of that roof plane, like by mounting it on a dowel of some sort. Or maybe for asthetics, if you bought a flag on a 3-5 foot pole, mount it on the rail or on the wall just outside your balcony, and mount the antenna on the end with wire ties or something, and then mess around with the aiming. I think that might do it for you. You may be able to get a piece of the western sky. As it is now, I think you're too sheltered, too many obstructions. Even if there is no roof, the wall is blocking you too. You need to get it out there. Think of it like this: if you're driving around in your car, you don't get any sun hitting you. If you drive around with your arm hanging out the window, it gets sunburned. You want the antenna to get sunburned.
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if you bought a flag on a 3-5 foot pole, mount it on the rail or on the wall just outside your balcony, and mount the antenna on the end with wire ties or something, and then mess around with the aiming.
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