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Old 08-22-2005, 02:15 PM   #31
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This is how I have my home antenna set up temporarily and searching for a more stable signal. I have three pics: one picture is a view south pretty much and the other two are the actual antenna and the side of my condo building.


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Yeah, the way you have the antenna hooked over the railing ledge is not going to be very effective. First of, as MM said, the silver part is the bottom of the base. The black part is the antenna. When the aiming instructions say face to the west or north, it means towards the western or northern sky, which means you have to angle it at about 45 degrees or so, like a satellite dish (like this /_ , but angled upwards a little more). Also, it's hard to tell for sure, but it looks like there's a roof over your balcony, which would be a definite signal blocker. If there is any way you can get it outside of that roof plane, like by mounting it on a dowel of some sort. Or maybe for asthetics, if you bought a flag on a 3-5 foot pole, mount it on the rail or on the wall just outside your balcony, and mount the antenna on the end with wire ties or something, and then mess around with the aiming. I think that might do it for you. You may be able to get a piece of the western sky. As it is now, I think you're too sheltered, too many obstructions. Even if there is no roof, the wall is blocking you too. You need to get it out there. Think of it like this: if you're driving around in your car, you don't get any sun hitting you. If you drive around with your arm hanging out the window, it gets sunburned. You want the antenna to get sunburned.
Excellent idea and much appreciated for your ideas. I think your right, too many obstructions. I will head down to Home Depot and see what I can do. I will have to be creative with this as living under a "strata" can be a challenge. Unlike when you live in a house, which of course is much easier for placing items. I can't really attatch anything to the exterior of the building but I will see what may work. Thanks.

So I will need to angle the antenna "east" and "up into the sky" correct? Considering I am living Northwest.

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This is how I have my home antenna set up temporarily and searching for a more stable signal. I have three pics: one picture is a view south pretty much and the other two are the actual antenna and the side of my condo building.


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Yeah, the way you have the antenna hooked over the railing ledge is not going to be very effective. First of, as MM said, the silver part is the bottom of the base. The black part is the antenna. When the aiming instructions say face to the west or north, it means towards the western or northern sky, which means you have to angle it at about 45 degrees or so, like a satellite dish (like this /_ , but angled upwards a little more). Also, it's hard to tell for sure, but it looks like there's a roof over your balcony, which would be a definite signal blocker. If there is any way you can get it outside of that roof plane, like by mounting it on a dowel of some sort. Or maybe for asthetics, if you bought a flag on a 3-5 foot pole, mount it on the rail or on the wall just outside your balcony, and mount the antenna on the end with wire ties or something, and then mess around with the aiming. I think that might do it for you. You may be able to get a piece of the western sky. As it is now, I think you're too sheltered, too many obstructions. Even if there is no roof, the wall is blocking you too. You need to get it out there. Think of it like this: if you're driving around in your car, you don't get any sun hitting you. If you drive around with your arm hanging out the window, it gets sunburned. You want the antenna to get sunburned.
Excellent idea and much appreciated for your ideas. I think your right, too many obstructions. I will head down to Home Depot and see what I can do. I will have to be creative with this as living under a "strata" can be a challenge. Unlike when you live in a house, which of course is much easier for placing items. I can't really attatch anything to the exterior of the building but I will see what may work. Thanks.

So I will need to angle the antenna "east" and "up into the sky" correct? Considering I am living Northwest.

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If you are in Richmond, then you need to point west or north, and into the sky. Check out this link to antenna aiming.

edit: nevermind, I just noticed you said you are in the northwest (BC). I thought you were in Richmond. Yes, you need to aim at the eastern sky.

I know what you mean about condo rules. Luckily my antenna has gone undetected. My building is three stories, and my unit has an entry foyer on the ground level, then the main living quarters on the second floor, with a loft on the third floor. I ran my antenna out the third floor loft window, actually stood on the bottom of the window casing. Then, holding onto the window frame with one hand and my antenna (with a few dabs of clear silicone on the bootom) in the other, I reached up and out over the edge of the roof and plunked it down onto the tar shingle. I then secured and ran the wire neatly to the overhang and into the window. So unless someone is really studying the roof, it is fairly discrete. The things we do for our Sirius...
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LOL oh my!! Now thats dedication!! Sounds like a real piece of work along with creativity.

I was just thinking about the best idea you suggested a flag pole angled out and then the antenna placed on the end....may work but then I have to fasten the flag pole to the balcony LOL and strata probably won't like that.

I think I will need some time to figure this out but definitely a flag pole angled out with antenna prob would work. I tried holding the antenna as far out from the balcony as I could. Tough to call I guess.

I will prob. check into a flag shop and see what type of stuff they have. I will be so happy if I can get a more stabile signal.
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You could always use a trick some DirecTV folks use.. flower pot full of concrete with pole sticking out. If you get a big enough one, you can even just fill it 3/4 of the way with concrete and plant over top the concrete to further hide the "evidence".

So, you may want to do something like this. Go to the local home improvement store, pick up a large flower pot, some Quikrete, some electrical conduit and bender, a nice flag of some sort, and let your imagination run wild.. something like this should do the trick though..

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You could always use a trick some DirecTV folks use.. flower pot full of concrete with pole sticking out. If you get a big enough one, you can even just fill it 3/4 of the way with concrete and plant over top the concrete to further hide the "evidence".

So, you may want to do something like this. Go to the local home improvement store, pick up a large flower pot, some Quikrete, some electrical conduit and bender, a nice flag of some sort, and let your imagination run wild.. something like this should do the trick though..

Nice illustration !! Even has the little antenna on the end...
I was just surfing around, trying to find some way for Richmondite to do what I suggested, only without actually attaching anything to the building. Your idea looks good.
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Nice pic, DaJoker!!

Do you make that yourself?

That sure is a great way to hide your set-up!!

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hahah thats awesome!!! and a great idea considering i really shouldn't be attatching anything to the railings or other parts of the limited common property.

and u even included your recipe

Thanks a lot to everyone for your suggestions and ideas-much appreciated.

i will take a closer look at this latest idea...seems pretty harmless just not sure how far out I can go from the balcony without someone bitching.

I did look at a couple of ideas earlier. First off I am just going to get the antenna as high as possible, tape it down to the wood pillar. It will be at the same position as my pics except about 5-6 feet higher. i will then move the angle of the antenna and see if I have any luck that way.

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Hmm not sure my idea works! although I didn't leave it up a long time, I didn't immediately receiver a signal.

I put it back the way it originally was against the railing as in pic 1 and 2. And I have signal. It seems to waver between 6 bars and 3 bars and then eventually no signal.

I am gonna look into the planter thing.

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Heh, yeah, it was a quick sketch I put together (gotta love having a graphics tablet for stuff like this) This is based off some other setups that have been done by Condo dwellers with DirecTV. Of course, they don't have to have the bend in the pole, but the premise is basically the same. And I agree with MM, zip ties would work considerably better. They don't mark the surface and hold rather well.

Richmondite, I would imagine as long as you use this thing as combo planter and flagpole, you won't get people bitching. After all, it's an improvement, not a detraction by the time you are done. People hang flags to decorate all the time
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Soooo I know its hard for anyone to speculate on my situation, but do you think it would work if I got the antenna out about 3 feet from the deck?

Just dont wanna buy all this stuff LOL and it not work.
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I would think it would, but, there unfortunately is only one way to know for sure, and that is to get the antenna about 3 feet out and see. You could always buy a broomstick cheap, ziptie the antenna to it, hold it out there while you check the signal and see what happens.
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Yeh next time a friend is over I will get him to stand out there LOL and see. Do you pick up a signal instantly???

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Close to instant.. will only need about 4-5 seconds.
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Cool, the only problem I foresee is having a "Flag" hanging out 3 feet from the balcony.

But trust me I will try.
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