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Old 01-12-2006, 01:43 PM   #1
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Hi, all

This question is for somone using the PIE FRDR-AUX adapter in their 2001 - 2005 Taurus (or sable, if applicable).

I know this takes the place of the cd changer, but does it interfere with use of the single cd player in the ICP? The instructions talk about using the "comp" and shuffle" buttons. The single cd doesen't use the shuffle button, but it does use the comp button. Does the use of the adapter mean I can't use compression on my single cd?

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Old 01-12-2006, 03:17 PM   #2
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No it doesn't. I have a 2002 Taurus and did the exact same instal. You do lose volum though because your the Adaptor is not amped, or something like that. You can still play a regular CD in the drive, but when you switch to the CD Changer controled Sirius Unit, it most definelty loses a lot of volume. To be honest, I thought it sounded a lot better with the FM signal. I bought an FM Modulaor at Best Buy and they sell the right antenna adaptors. $50 and I was set.

No, it doesn't interefer with the comp and shuffle buttons. They just tell you your car has to have one of those because that means that you have a CD Changer port. To access the Sirius if you install in the CD changer port, you just hit the CD button twice.

Much like if you press the CD button twice now, it says something like "NO DJ" or somethign like that.

Hope this makes sense.
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Thanks for the info, It makes sense to me, answers all my Q's. I think PIE makes an aux adapter with input compensation adj. I might go with that, to try to avoid the level difference.

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Old 01-13-2006, 10:35 PM   #4
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yeah, the volume level is just less because the voltage output of the PNP's is low.

the best aux input adapter for the Taurus with the RCU in the trunk, is the PAC AAI-FRDTS, which allows for 3 source inputs, and all inputs are controlled from the OEM headunit, without the need for an externally mounted switch.

The AAI-FRDTS, when properly connected, will display 'Disc 1 - Track 11' for auxiliary input #1, 'Disc 2 - Track 22' for auxiliary input #2, and 'Disc 3 - Track 33" for auxiliary input #3.

but the best feature of the adapter is that it contains potentiometers for input gain for individual source level matching.



pricey here:
http://www.logjamelectronics.com/pacaaifrdts.html

but it can be had for less across the Net.
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Brian,
sorry for hi-jacking this thread. I think I've thoroughly searched/researched this question, but for my vehicle/stereo (2001 ford expedition, non-mach stereo - premium from ford, am/fm in-dash, 6disc changer in console), is this the device required to add aux inputs? I don't really need three, but it looks like this is what you get.

Does it require an external switch to toggle between changer and aux selection mode?
Have you seen a better unit to add aux inputs?

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okay, you have a 2001 Expedition with AM/FM CD unit, with an externally mounted changer in armrest?

no, i see, i think you have an AM/FM in-dash cd changer headunit, yes?

some of the Ford indash cd changer headunits are able to control externally mounted devices, and some are not. the only way to be absolutely certain is to remove your headunit and look at its rear port availability.

also, does the headunit contain any specific keys, like Aux on it?
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Hi Brian,
My bad. am/fm cassette indash, as you say.

On the rear of the hu, there are two connectors. I didn't count pins. I'm guessing one is from the cd changer in the armrest and the other is for power and speakers (4 speakers - 1 in each door).

No aux button. Just am/fm/cd, 6 presets, shuffle, dolby, rds, select, tune, etc.

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Old 01-14-2006, 12:01 AM   #8
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okay, so it's an AM/FM/Tape headunit with cd changer controls, with an external cd changer in the armrest.

you can get yourself an auxillary input adapter that will allow you to keep your changer and add an auxillary input.

i assume the rear of your headunit inputs looked like this?


20pin for cd changer, and the 16pin for power/speakers.

let me get so info for you....
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do you have this pin configuration:


or this one on your rear:


i'd bet you've got the 20pin/16pin version.
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ahhhh, you went to sleep. well, when you can answer some of those specific questions, i'll know more, but several are made, including some that have a single input, while others have multiple inputs.

some mount at the cd changer location, while the others connect at the rear of the headunit. guess you need to know what best fits your application.

average price, pricey! $80-100.
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I'm still up, just watched transporter 2.

I just double checked. It's the configuration 20/16pin, lower picture version.

What I don't want is to have an external toggle. Are there any candidates?

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I did not use the PIE adaptor, I apted for the USA Spec DF Ford 1. IT was simple to hook up but I wasn't happy with the loss of volume so I just bought the FM Modulator and I'm really happy with that.

I think it is the easier and much cheaper way to go. I had about $100 wrapped up in the USA SPEC but only about $40 in the Modulator and antenna extensions.

Brian R Webb is the guy that helped me and he really knows his stuff.
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Hi Brian... bump
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yeah, sorry, on now, 2:07pm pacific.

the Blitzsafe - FORD/AUX DMX V.1C OEM is what you need:
http://store.yahoo.com/logjam/blitzf...dmxv1coem.html

can be bought from Enfig for cheaper:
http://enfigcarstereo.com/shopsite_s...X_V1C_OEM.html

it is completely hidden with no externally mounted switch.

there are others that work at the cd changer itself, but it would require you to run a longer patch cable to the aux device.

i'll more this evening, but i've got to get back to this install...
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thanks Brian. It's not exactly clear, but it appears that no external switch is required to select aux. you do it through the oem hu controls. correct?

Also, in your experience, how much sound improvement is there when using aux inputs versus fm relay (hard-wired fm modulation)? Sirius reciever is an xact visor.

Thank you for frequenting this forum and providing expertise to novices like me ;-)

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