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Old 11-06-2006, 04:04 PM   #1
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I just bought my wife a Sportster Replay in the 2nd radio free promo that ran last month. I probably wouldn't have bought it if I'd known about the awful new (weak) FM transmitters that require you purchase an FM Modulator unless you want to listen to poor staticky reception.

However, we're stuck with it and I want to make it work.

While I was going to buy an FM Modulator from tss radio, I've heard that we'll require special parts for our VW Passat TDi (2005). Is this true, and if so, do I need to have it installed professionally? Professional installation+even more parts is making this look like more than we want to spend on it.

Ideas/input?

Thx in advance...
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Old 11-06-2006, 06:46 PM   #2
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The FM modulator is the FM transmitter already in your Sirius radio. What you need to purchase is a FM modulator *relay*. It's a switch that changes the input to your existing car radio between the Sirius modulator, and the car's existing AM/FM antenna.

The extra parts are probably adapters as VW and other manufacturers are now using non-standard connectors which have to be converted via adapters. They are, unfortunately, somewhat pricey.
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Old 11-06-2006, 09:33 PM   #3
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As long as your car radio has a regular antenna plug on the back, you should be able to use the relay.. (I think if you have the single antenna on the back of the roof you're OK)

BUT.. Some Passats came with diversity antennas.. This consisted of several antennas built into areas of the body in the front and sides. The signals from these antennas were combined in the radio. If you have this style of radio, you're probably out of luck.

But.. There is a PIE adapter for VW. If you don't have an external CD changer and have the proper connector at the back , you should be able to use this:

http://www.logjamelectronics.com/pievwraux.html
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Old 11-10-2006, 06:47 AM   #4
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Angry Screwed.

I need all the special junk. The $20 just jumped to $70 to install, excluding professional install fees if I have that done.

How much longer can Sirius state "everything you need to start enjoying satellite radio is in this box"?
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How much longer can Sirius state "everything you need to start enjoying satellite radio is in this box"?
They do seem to stretch things with that statement on their box. It's unfortunate. They really should start to include the FM modulator relays and state something like "antenna adapters may be needed at extra cost." Until SDARS/satellite radio makes it into the mainstream of car radios, this probably will continue. Hopefully Sirius and XM will realize it is in their best long-term interest to get dual-system receivers built-in to all car radios. I just can't see how that wouldn't be the best thing for them. Makes it totally simple for the potential subscriber to give it a try, with little hassle on that subscriber to have to do an installation too...
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T. They really should start to include the FM modulator relays and state something like "antenna adapters may be needed at extra cost." Until SDARS/satellite radio makes it into the mainstream of car radios, this probably will continue.
I never thought of that.. They should bite the bullet and include them now that the FCC has told them to make the FM transmitters Part15 compliant. I notice in the Stratus instruction manual, they recomend using a direct FM adapter and they have a diagram of how to hook it up. They just don't include one

What would REALLY be nice is if ALL automakers would start installing LINE INPUT plugs on their radios. (Some do it now).. Along with Satellite radio, you also have millions of iPods and a host of other music players in use. The demand is there.
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What would REALLY be nice is if ALL automakers would start installing LINE INPUT plugs on their radios. (Some do it now).. Along with Satellite radio, you also have millions of iPods and a host of other music players in use. The demand is there.
I agree there too. Some manufacturers do. I'd also like to see more head units with flash memory card slots and/or usb connections. Now that would be excellent. I saw one with USB, and another with (I think) SD memory.

Back to the subject of Sirius/XM built-into the car radio, that makes it a very simple method for the less-than-technical folks to get sat radio. Just call up and activate it. I can't believe a SDARS receiver & demod is that expensive to put in these radios.
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Right on. I just have a basic install in my 2000 GMC Jimmy, but to use either the FM modulator relay or the PIE AUX-input requires dashboard disassembly, not to mention an adapter for the relay ($40 to go with relay, $70 to go with AUX-in). Me personally, I don't mind, but others? I know people who wouldn't even DREAM of taking the dash apart.
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Does the car stereo have an aux input on the face of the stereo? If so, get an 3.5mm headphone plug extension. I installed one in my gfs Honda and it works well... It does away with having to use the modulator...
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