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Old 11-30-2006, 01:31 PM   #1
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can i simply clip the lighter adapter off and tap into 12v -/+ line? one wire is solid black, one is black w/ white dashes, which is +/-?
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Old 11-30-2006, 01:33 PM   #2
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Starmate 4 is 5V not 12V could screw things up
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Old 11-30-2006, 01:49 PM   #3
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ach!


how are you supposed to hard wire this, without plugging into cig lighter?

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Old 11-30-2006, 02:05 PM   #4
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ach!


how are you supposed to hard wire this, without plugging into cig lighter?
I am going to buy this, P.I.E XM5 AUX Input converter
its in my thread in this forum- requires getting to the back of your radio,
http://www.siriusbackstage.com/forum...ad.php?t=91189

I am sure others can help you out
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is there any kind of accessory i can buy to be able to wire it to 12v? or do i make a trip to Radio Shack?

oops didn't see the reply!
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Old 11-30-2006, 02:16 PM   #6
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89 bucks! thats more than the receiver cost me.
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Old 11-30-2006, 02:17 PM   #7
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is there any kind of accessory i can buy to be able to wire it to 12v? or do i make a trip to Radio Shack?

oops didn't see the reply!
Easiest thing to do is get a cigarette lighter power port from radio shack ($5 or so), wire it up to an available 12v source behind the dash, plug in the power cord that came with your sirius tuner, then hide it all behind the dash. The 12v power outlet is easy to install and hide behind the dash, and this method keeps your sirius power cord intact in case you ever want to remove it or use it somewhere else.

http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...entPage=search

Don't worry about the square piece of back plastic in the photo - it comes off and the whole thing doesnt take up that much space when you hide it away

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Easiest thing to do is get a cigarette lighter power port from radio shack ($5 or so), wire it up to an available 12v source behind the dash, plug in the power cord that came with your sirius tuner, then hide it all behind the dash. The 12v power outlet is easy to install and hide behind the dash, and this method keeps your sirius power cord intact in case you ever want to remove it or use it somewhere else.

http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...entPage=search

Don't worry about the square piece of back plastic in the photo - it comes off and the whole thing doesnt take up that much space when you hide it away
The problem is the new radios are 5V, so 12V might damage the radio
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89 bucks! thats more than the receiver cost me.
I know its expenesive, but I am also hooking up the radio in aux in, so I do not have to worry about fm adapter etc... and also I can plug my ipod into it also.

$89 but its gives me 3 useful things
1- hide power adapter
2- direct connect
3- playing ipod in car

edit- I also plan on keeping my car for a long time, so will pay off

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Old 11-30-2006, 02:28 PM   #10
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The problem is the new radios are 5V, so 12V might damage the radio
That is only a problem if you cut wires and try to connect it directly to a power supply. Even though the radios use 5v they all come with 12v adapters designed to be plugged into an automotive 12v power outlet like the one i linked to above. The method that I suggested is the easiest way to accomplish what the original poster hopes to accomplish and you don't have to worry about voltage since you are using the stock power cord which handles all the voltage conversion.
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Old 12-01-2006, 11:43 PM   #11
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That is only a problem if you cut wires and try to connect it directly to a power supply. Even though the radios use 5v they all come with 12v adapters designed to be plugged into an automotive 12v power outlet like the one i linked to above. The method that I suggested is the easiest way to accomplish what the original poster hopes to accomplish and you don't have to worry about voltage since you are using the stock power cord which handles all the voltage conversion.
I have to agree with proper on this one. He suggested this to me a few weeks ago. I installed in 15-20 mins tops. The wiring is really simple to do, just use an open input in your fuse box and find a good ground. The relay comes with a 10amp in-line fuse as well. I was thinking about doing this install in my Pathfinder, but the damn thing has 3 power outlets up front and the one I plan to use is right beside the area I plan to mount it. BTW, the wife spilled the beans already. I'm getting the Starmate 3 for XMAS! I can't wait to put it in!
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Easiest thing to do is ... wire it up to an available 12v source behind the dash.

http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...entPage=search
What if I was a dumb dumb and I didn't know how to go about finding an available 12v source?? I have a 2004 GMC Yukon ... is this info I will find in an owners manual maybe? Can I "tap into" one of the existing 2 cig lighter outlets that are in the area without causing a problem?

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Did this site get moved to a server in the TWILIGHT ZONE????

Get the $5 part, shove wires in fuse box, slap behind glove box

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OK, sounds like something that should be pretty self explanatory once I buy the part and start looking at things, never wired anything to the fuse box so maybe it is obvious. Thanks for all the info gang.
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The Radio Shack adapter is the way to go I hooked mine up yesterday and very happy with it. I only have one cig. lighter plug in my truck so I like to leave that free.

First thing to remember is that some of the fuses in the fuse box is live even with the car off, you want a fuse that goes dead with the car OFF. Get yourself one of those test lights, http://www.autotoys.com/x/cust/produ...ctid=686&cat=8 clip the alligator clip on to some metal in the car then pull out a fuse and take the test light probe and stick it in where the fuse was, if the tester lights up the circuit is hot. Ideally you want to tap into a circuit that goes dead when you turn the car off. So turn the car key to the ignition position without starting the car. Now repeat the above steps with your test light to determine which circuits are live with the car off and which are ONLY live with the car ON.

When you find a circuit that is only live with key in the ON position NOT the start position you can take the red wire from your RS adapter and wrap it around the metal part of the fuse then slide the fuse with the wire attached to the fuse back into it's slot. Now take your black wire and GROUND it to the vehicle, look for a screw or nut under the dash. To see if it's a good ground go back to your tester again clip it to the screw or nut you think is a good ground then stick the probe into one of the fuse sockets that you know is live if the tester lights up you have found your good ground. Wrap the black wire around this nut or screw TIGHT!

WARNING the RS adapter has metal that is exposed you want to put some electric tape on this, look at where the red wire goes into the back of the socket, it's all exposed metal, if you shove this socket under the dash it may come in contact with some other metal and short out. Also the sides of the socket adapter is open put tape around that also.

Now plug your Sirius power plug into the RS socket, then plug it into your Sirius radio. Turn the car on and power up your Sirius radio.
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