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Old 12-02-2006, 05:02 PM   #1
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Okay folks, here's my situation. I've got a 2006 Toyota Corolla, an iPod, and I'm getting a Starmate 4 and an after-market head unit soon. I would ideally like to connect both the power and AUX-connection of the Starmate to the power source/head unit behind the dash. I would also like to be able to connect my iPod to an AUX connection also, be it via a second AUX jack or even the same one the Starmate uses, if that is possible.

So, can I do this? What HU $200 or under would you recommend? What else do I need?

A second, less important question - how does the antenna cable get to the radio dock? Does it just come in from the trunk to the back seat and then just out in the open to the dock?

Thanks.

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Old 12-03-2006, 08:28 PM   #2
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The question I have is why get a Starmate 4 at all ??

My wife's car uses a Sirius and Ipod ready Pioneer HU.

The Sirius tuner was $99 and the Ipod adapter was another $50.

Both Sirius and the Ipod are hidden out of sight and both are controlled by the HU.

The Ipod adapter has a wire in the glovebox withthe dock connector on it.
Ipod gets tucked into the glovebox and gets charged to boot.

It's a great setup....
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:52 PM   #3
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The question I have is why get a Starmate 4 at all ??

My wife's car uses a Sirius and Ipod ready Pioneer HU.

The Sirius tuner was $99 and the Ipod adapter was another $50.

Both Sirius and the Ipod are hidden out of sight and both are controlled by the HU.

The Ipod adapter has a wire in the glovebox withthe dock connector on it.
Ipod gets tucked into the glovebox and gets charged to boot.

It's a great setup....
Well that's what I was going to do, but I haven't read a single positive thing about the integrated tuners. The impression that I got is that the signal quality is poor and it seems many people have ditched the integrated tuners for a Starmate or Stiletto. Have you had a problem-free experience with your integrated tuner?
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Old 12-04-2006, 12:57 PM   #4
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The tuner is not intergated. It's a box that plugs into the HU.

They also do not have the advanced features of the Starmate or Stiletto.
They can not record or rewind, they don't have song and artist seek,
and depending on the HU some only display the channel number.
A better HU will also display song and artist info.
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Old 12-04-2006, 03:20 PM   #5
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Everything Blazer said is true. I hear the tuner set up is the best possible sound you can possibly get from the Sirius signal in your car. And if you do your homework, the tuner can be found for less than $99.
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So, can I do this? What HU $200 or under would you recommend? What else do I need?

A second, less important question - how does the antenna cable get to the radio dock? Does it just come in from the trunk to the back seat and then just out in the open to the dock?
Vantage,

I would go with the cheapest model of a brand you trust that has a front 'Aux In' jack. This will allow quick, easy connection of both your ST4 and iPod. While the SQ is not as good as a dedicated tuner/HU setup, other advantages, like full display and portability, will compensate. IMO, the SQ is not that much better. Assuming you don't have a ground loop issue, the SQ will be better than any FM scheme or a cassette adapter.

The car antenna has a thin cable that most people route through a window gasket or trunk. The 'Install Garage' has dozens of posts with pictures and instructions. Some of the installs are incredibly clever. Do yourself a favor and browse them until you find something that looks good and easy.
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The question I have is why get a Starmate 4 at all ??
I can tell you why I wouldn't go that route, but remember it's just my opinion:

First, that Sirius radio is then chained to THAT car. You can't take it inside or to other vehicles. (I have a home dock, a shop dock, and a dock in each of my cars, and a boombox for the boat...my radio can go anywhere that I am)

Second, if the "new" Starmate is like my S4, there is an "Ipod" (or any other stereo input source) AUX-IN plug right into the front of the new PnP docks. When I plug in my MP3 player (sorry, I'm not an Apple or Ipod fan or user), it silences the Sirius feed and feeds the MP3 source directly into the HU in Sirius' place. It doesn't "charge" my MP3 player this way, but I also don't have to reach over to the glove box to work with it.

Third, I'm not sure about the HU in question, but if it's like my GM's built-in XM unit, you only get a few letters of the artist, title, and channel on the display, even as it scrolls. I like that my S4 shows me everything, all in one screen, at one whack - so to speak. (Including a signal strength indicator so I know if the dropout was on my end, or Sirius').

Anyway, that's my take. YMMV.
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Old 12-04-2006, 03:42 PM   #8
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I just got the Starmate 4, because I listen in the house and car

For the car setup, check out my thread here http://www.siriusbackstage.com/forum...ad.php?t=91189

I am purchasing this for my ipod and starmate 4, and will not have to use the lighter for my power adapter

The newer universal docks, do not have the Aux in on the front anymore
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It doesn't "charge" my MP3 player this way, but I also don't have to reach over to the glove box to work with it.
You don't play with it once it's in the glovebox all the controls and display info is on the head unit.
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You don't play with it once it's in the glovebox all the controls and display info is on the head unit.
First off, thanks for the advice everyone. I decided to get that one double line display JVC AR870 (about $180 shipped off eBay) and the SIR-JVC1 tuner. I hate clutter and I love ease of use so that works well for me.

Is it easy to control the iPod through the head unit? Any slowness issues or difficulty navigating?
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It takes a little getting used to because the interface is a bit different.

But, if your playlists are in good shape it's not hard at all.
I had to do some tweeking to the playlists.
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Nice.

I hope everything installs easily and works the first time.

Let us know how it goes.
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You don't play with it once it's in the glovebox all the controls and display info is on the head unit.
Fair enough. I still don't like Apple or their products, so I'm stuck with a plain old (Rio) MP3 player - which is fine by me. Not to mention I am locked into my factory head unit since it handles my OnStar/phone calls, has my XM built-into it, and also is the source of the door chimes and such in the vehicle - as well as being a 6 CD changer too. I am pretty sure it cannot control an Apple/Ipod brand MP3 player lol.

No, just plugging my MP3 player to the AUX-IN on the Sportster 4 dock works fine for me. And I was lucky enough to get 4 separate kits for all my cars/trucks that had functioning front panel AUX INs on all of them...
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LOL...Rio I have two old Rio's they made a great product.

1. Rio ONE (32 meg)
2. Rio S35S (64 meg + 512 meg)

I used the S30S until about 2 months ago when I got the Ipod.
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Yep, I stole my Rio from my wife. I gave it to her a while back, and she used it for a time, but not so much anymore. I think it is called a "Rio Sport". Blue, sorta round, and came with 512mb, and I put a 1gig SD card in it as well. Holds plenty of tunes for me, and the battery life is great IMO.
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