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Old 12-19-2006, 07:44 AM   #1
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I have installed several Sportsters in other cars but I could use some tips for an easy install.
1.Can anyone tell me the BEST WAY to run the antennae to the back of the cab? I would prefer it to be in the center near the light.

2. I will be installing the unit using the suction cup mount and placing the unit directly to the left of the steering wheel. I assume all I do is remove the A Pillar and snake my wires down under the dash that way?

3. Do I run my antennae up the A Pillar and over the cab by running it under the weaterstripping material ABOVE the doors?

4. I am using the adaptor that jacks into your antennae behind the head unit. Is there any way to do this WITHOUT REMOVING the head unit? I was gonna use the USA SPEC aux adaptor but it costs 75 bucks and all I want is NO STATIC.

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!!!
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I have installed several Sportsters in other cars but I could use some tips for an easy install.
1.Can anyone tell me the BEST WAY to run the antennae to the back of the cab? I would prefer it to be in the center near the light.

2. I will be installing the unit using the suction cup mount and placing the unit directly to the left of the steering wheel. I assume all I do is remove the A Pillar and snake my wires down under the dash that way?

3. Do I run my antennae up the A Pillar and over the cab by running it under the weaterstripping material ABOVE the doors?

4. I am using the adaptor that jacks into your antennae behind the head unit. Is there any way to do this WITHOUT REMOVING the head unit? I was gonna use the USA SPEC aux adaptor but it costs 75 bucks and all I want is NO STATIC.

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!!!
I did this in my '06:

1. Remove the third brake light. BE CAREFUL and try to keep the sticky tape intact so that you can use it again to reinstall the light. Use a hair dryer if you have to. If you do destroy it (like I did) you can use 3M double sided weatherproof tape to remount the light bezel, but it's kind of a pain.

2. On the inside of your truck roof, near the back slider window, loosen the headliner Do this by turning the coat hooks 90 degrees. This allows you to pull down the liner just enough the snake the antenna wire.

3. Place the antenna where you want it on the roof and run the cable between the light bezel and the roof. Be sure to make a small notch in teh bezel so that it still sits flush on th roof. Because of the counour of the roof my tail eventually came off, so I just leave it with the exposed wire these days. No problem though.

4. Back inside your truck stick your hand under the ehadliner near where the wire comes in from teh third brake light. Grab the antenna wire and snake it along the edge over the the side pillar in teh back corner of the cab. I used the passenger side.

5. You can work the wire behind the pilar without removing it. The crak is big enough and the wire is small enough.

6. Remove the door sills in the frint and rear cabs. Just yank them out, I think they are just clipped in there with no screws - but I haven't looked in a while.

7. With teh sills removed, running the antenna wire to the front of the cab is a no brainer - just run it in teh existing wire channel. The wire and connector are small enough that you should be able to snake it between the back and front without removing the center pillar.

8. Replace the third brake light and place a dab of silicone on the notch you made for the antenna wire.

and for the FM relay, there is no way to get around removing the radio. but the tac radio is super easy to remove. if you need some info on that just let me know. But I would suggest spending the cash on the USA SPEC aux adapter. I used to use it and it was well worth the money and just as easy to install.

Here is a good forum for Tacoma information:

http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/

I found a lot of info there when I did my install.

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Old 12-19-2006, 11:01 AM   #3
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THANKS!
BTW: I just found out that I CAN'T HARD WIRE THE POWER CORD. I see there is a transformer that drops voltage to 5 VOLTS. How did you get around this issue? Only thing I can think of is to solder the part inside the cigarette adaptor in line with the power cord somehow!
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Old 12-19-2006, 11:13 AM   #4
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THANKS!
BTW: I just found out that I CAN'T HARD WIRE THE POWER CORD. I see there is a transformer that drops voltage to 5 VOLTS. How did you get around this issue? Only thing I can think of is to solder the part inside the cigarette adaptor in line with the power cord somehow!
the solution to this is very simple. Get a 12v power outlet from radioshack ($8 or so) and hook it up behind the dash somewhere. You can tap into any switched 12v power line like the ones going to the existing power outlets or the power line to the stereo (I don't remember which wire that is though). All you need to do to hook up the power outlet is connect power (12v) and find a good ground. Connect the power cord that came with your radio and hide it all behind the dash (there's lots of room to the right side of the radio behind the dash panels). Run your power cable out in front of the dash to connect to your sirius radio and you're done. The power cable that came with your radio will handle the conversion to 5v so you don't have to worry about it. I don't do this with my Sirius tuner but this is how I ran power for my Garmin GPS which is also 5v. The only downside is that your power cable is now mounted in your dash so you can't just pull it out whenever you want. If you need to be able to do that, just buy a second power cable from tss-radio.
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Old 12-20-2006, 09:18 AM   #5
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Propermod,
Thanks for all your help!
I now finished the FM adaptor installation behind the radio. I now need to run the power and Antennae. Regarding antennae installation, you think the best location is mounting it directly above the center rear taillight? I take apart the tailight and cut a notch in the plastic? I assume you need to drop it from the center rear of the cab to the door sills and run it alongside the wiring harness and up past the fuse block to the A-PILLER. ANY OTHER TIPS?
I OWE YOU!! C'MON DOWN TO TAMPA AND WE CAN GO JETSKIING!!

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Old 12-20-2006, 09:47 AM   #6
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Thanks for all your help!
I now finished the FM adaptor installation behind the radio. I now need to run the power and Antennae. Regarding antennae installation, you think the best location is mounting it directly above the center rear taillight? I take apart the tailight and cut a notch in the plastic? I assume you need to drop it from the center rear of the cab to the door sills and run it alongside the wiring harness and up past the fuse block to the A-PILLER. ANY OTHER TIPS?
I OWE YOU!! C'MON DOWN TO TAMPA AND WE CAN GO JETSKIING!!
No problem Honestly, I'm not 100% happy with where I mounted it near the tail light. It works great there but there are a couple things I don't like about it:

1. The need to remove the tail light housing and make a small notch for the cable. If you don't do it right you can cause leaks

2. If I ever need to replace the antenna it will be a few hour job

3. because of the countour of the roof you cant butt the antenna against the light housing, you need to move it out a few inches so that it lies flat. This exposes several inches of wire

4. also because of the countour of the roof, you can't cover the exposed wire with an antenna tail. the curves in the roof and the hard plastic tails put too much strain on the adhesive tape and it eventually comes off, leaving the wire exposed.

3 and 4 may be different if you are using one of the square antennas. I am using the dot micro which has a big footprint and is round. if mine ever needs to be replaced i will use one of the smaller square antennas.

If I had it to do over again tomorrow I'd look around to see how people mount the antenna at the center of the windshield at the front of the roof. I don't know exactly how they do it but I would look into that to see if it is easier.

But if you were to go for the tail light, you are correct. You basically run it under the headliner, down the back pillar, and along the wire channel in the door sills up to the front near the fuse block (drivers side) or near the passengers feet (passenger side - where I did it). It's pretty easy to do since the cable is small. I only had to remove the door sill covers to expose the wire channel in there. The cable was small enough to work it under the A-pillars without removing the panels (removing those looks like a big pain in the ass since you have to mess with the seat belt mounts). The only "hard" part was dealing with the tail light housing. I didn't really cut the housing, I just used a round file to notch it enough to let the cable sit underneath. then i sealed up the notch with a dab of silicone. it was a pain to deal with the super adhesive tape that help it on. I wasn't too gentle and destroyed the tape. I replaced it with 3M weatherproof double sided tape from target (STRONG stuff!). it works well but it was a pain to cut it up into the right shape to remount the light housing. I guess I am making it seem harder than it really is since it only took probably an hour to remove the light, run the antenna, and remount the light (NOT including the time required to go to the store and buy the double sided tape!).

I'll bring the sportster boombox for the back of the jetski!

good luck!
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Everythings gone good EXCEPT for some TINY surface scratches I put under the A/C controls when trying to pop the part. Any tricks on making VERY MINOR SCUFFS less noticable? I always do this, I worry about a TINY SCRATCH for 2 weeks then forget about it. BUT ITS BOTHERING ME!!
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Everythings gone good EXCEPT for some TINY surface scratches I put under the A/C controls when trying to pop the part. Any tricks on making VERY MINOR SCUFFS less noticable? I always do this, I worry about a TINY SCRATCH for 2 weeks then forget about it. BUT ITS BOTHERING ME!!
Sorry man, no tips for that. It's a plastic part so fixing scratches may not be possible. I feel your pain though. A couple weeks ago I lost my grip on the metal air nozzle while filling my rear tire at a gas station. The hose retracted and pulled the metal nozzle along the side of my truck until it got to the side mirror where it wrapped around and colied up until it stopped. It put a NICE long circular scratch on my drivers side door and a bit into the fender. I get to look at that scratch every time I get into the truck. I guess I am lucky that it stopped at the mirror or else it would have dragged across the hood. scratches suck!
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I had put scratches in my MX-5 airbag on the steering whel. Its black. I took a permanent magic marker and using my finger, rubbed it into the scratches. PRESTO! Almost INVISIBLE! I gotta see if they make gray magic markers.
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PROPERMOD,
What about placing the antennae INSIDE the windshield on the dash?
I had tried this on another car and the signal was lousy, but I have had Navigation antennaes on the dash and they worked great!
Isn't there a way to place the antennae temporarily in place and then check for signal power in the menu?
OR AM I BETTER OFF INSTALLING IT OUTSIDE THE TRUCK?
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I had put scratches in my MX-5 airbag on the steering whel. Its black. I took a permanent magic marker and using my finger, rubbed it into the scratches. PRESTO! Almost INVISIBLE! I gotta see if they make gray magic markers.
Agreed - Id go to a craft store like Michael's or AC Moore and find some type of marker or other fine cover "paint" and just fill in. I hear ya on the scratches, I got a small ding on my step bar on my Xterra and it drove me nuts. I went to NAPA and bought some metallic grey cover paint and dulled it a big w/ some gray house paint I had an presto change-o, doesnt look perfect but it's much less noticable than a huge white blotch on the bar.
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What about placing the antennae INSIDE the windshield on the dash?
I had tried this on another car and the signal was lousy, but I have had Navigation antennaes on the dash and they worked great!
Isn't there a way to place the antennae temporarily in place and then check for signal power in the menu?
OR AM I BETTER OFF INSTALLING IT OUTSIDE THE TRUCK?
People get varied results when they put the antenna on the dash. It may be okay when you check it, but it is going to fluctuate a lot as you drive around. I had mine on the dash for a while after I bought my truck and before I did my full install. Reception ranged from okay to pretty crappy at times. Your best bet is always to mount it outside the truck. But it would be easy to check. Just throw it on the dash for a while to see how your reception is. If it sucks, then you can install on the roof and run the wire, if it's acceptable then you can leave it there and hide the wires a bit.
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