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Old 02-05-2007, 11:30 AM   #76
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Here is the response I recieved from Mr. Davidov about the repeater;

I would like to answer some of the questiones that you had in your forum backstage .

1. How does the repeater work?

2.How large a distance can it cover?

3.FCC approval status?

4.Cost of unit to the the people belonging to the forum Sirius backstage?

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the unit consist of an outside antenna which brings the signal inside over coax cable to an indoor repeater
which takes the signal amplifies it, process it and then radiate it with an internal antenna. The max power that the units are allowed to transmit is minus 10 dbm,even this output power the essential coverage inside the building with walls is anywhere between 30meters ad 100 meters.this repeater when used in home environment achieves 30 to 60 meters distance. (effective distances twice the amount of coverage ).

FCC just approved the use of the repeater in a commercial/industrial environment like stores , hotels etc, for XM.
they still have not approved explicitly the use of the repeater in the home , but they allow people to experiment
with the repeater in home environment. FCC is concern mostly about interference of the home repeater systems adjacent frequency bands, given that the max power allowed is very low chances that will be an interference coused by the home system into an adjacent system is very low.

One unit is $329- 2 units is $ 200-.
Regular price $300 for people belongs to the forum is $280.-
For larger volume will be a special discount.


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Old 02-06-2007, 05:27 AM   #77
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Here is what I emailed Mr. Davidov;

I am working with a few members of Sirius Backstage(http://www.siriusbackstage.com) and evaluating the digital satellite repeater. We are specifically interested in this device for use in our homes with Sirius Satellite Radio.

I have a 2 story colonel and am curious if the device would be capable of boosting the signal throughout my home. The device would have to be installed in my attic and would need to go through 3 ceilings before it would reach the basement. Is the repeater capable of this? If not would it be able to go at least through 2 ceilings to provide coverage on my first floor?

Perhaps a better home placement would be needed. I chose the attic because it is the highest point where it could also possibly cover the yard. Another possibility would be the first floor but this wouldn't provide coverage out into the yard.

Thanks for any feedback you can offer. I know your documentation says the device works best in an open setting but perhaps it can fill the need of a homeowner too.


Here is his response. Curious that he says a 2 repeater purchase is not much more than a single repeater. Perhaps he is referring to the price breaks he already provided.

The repeater max signal power permitted by the FCC -10dbm this is quite low compare with license free power output +22dbmabout 32 db higher than digital radio repeater . Therefore the distance that can be achieved with digital radio repeater much smaller then license free . Typically one can achieve 30-60 meters if it goes through one set of walls. In your case you are going to go through 3 sets of walls , the coverage achieved is smaller than 30 meters(depending on the multi path which exist in this location ). the best thing is to try and see how does the attenuation of the walls affect your signal. another thing to consider is more then one repeater wired to a separate cable and placing it in strategic location eliminating small dead areas In situation like this will be priced in special fashion arriving at the system cost for 2 indoor boosters that does not differ very much then the system with one indoor booster.
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So who is still getting one?? I'm a little more on the fence now, though leaning towards getting it. How do we go about ordering?
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Since reading the reply I am also on the fence now , leaning more towards the no side . I also have a number of levels to my house .I have cable outlets on a number of walls in each room with only one outlet being used for TV in each leaving others for SIRIUS or combine it with the diplexer (?) that came with the antenna . Rather than having to add a second repeater I could use the outside antenna I already have and just hook my dock to it . I am not really after being able to walk around with it . I just want it near me for the 10 driver to pit audio availble during a NASCAR race other than that it can sit where it has been for the last couple months and save a couple hundred bucks .
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I think I might hold off as well. I didnt really like that last response to davejulien from Mr. Davidov. I wish we could request a unit to try. Maybe even write a review for home use.
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I only want to cover a basement and 1st floor. I was planing on placing the unit in a corner pointing up and out across the house. It sounds like it will work for this but at 280(I think that is the price of one) it's a pricey risk. I like that 200 price much better. Anyone in the S Jersey/Philly area want to go in on two to get the lower cost?
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I think I'll wait for th Sirius repeater. Unless some one else gets one of these and gives it a thumbs up.
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How will the Sirius repeater work. My understanding is that it is a two piece system. I use the Sirius boom box in different parts of my house. Would I easily be able to move it around with the Sirius version? Is there a power source needed for the part that plugs into the boom box?
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vtec, I am only guessing here, but I think there might not be a power source for the receiver end of the Directed repeater, but there would almost certainly have to be one for the transmitter end.

The Sirius (and XM) antennas are 'active', meaning they need power, usually to supply a Low Noise Amplifier (LNA) housed in the antenna. The transmitter end would not only have to power the antenna, but any frequency shifting and power transmit antenna, too.

The active Sirius antennas get their power from the tuner and/or dock (or cradle). It's relatively simple to use that power to supply something else, as long as the power demands aren't too great. Then an external power supply would be needed.

As a guesstimation, I'd give even money that no power source for the receiver end will be needed when used with a boombox or dock.
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That's interesting... That would make the system for my setup just as portable as using the real repeater. It sounds like the Sirius repeater, on the boom box end, would be simple as an antenna swap. Is there any date for this device yet?
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How will the Sirius repeater work. My understanding is that it is a two piece system. I use the Sirius boom box in different parts of my house. Would I easily be able to move it around with the Sirius version? Is there a power source needed for the part that plugs into the boom box?
The info from Paintedantenna indicates that the reciever end of the Sirius system is powered from the antenna jack on the radio. No seperate power supply.
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That's interesting... That would make the system for my setup just as portable as using the real repeater. It sounds like the Sirius repeater, on the boom box end, would be simple as an antenna swap. Is there any date for this device yet?
This post says possibly March 2nd. http://www.siriusbackstage.com/forum...ad.php?t=94534
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Sounds like we should wait till the Sirius version is out so we can do some kind of comparison. Although if we can't get our hands on Mr. Davidov's repeater then I'm not sure how a comparison can be done.

Maybe someone as representative of this forum, preferably moderator, could persuade Mr. Davidov to send a version "on loan" for testing. The upside is if it works out for him he has potential for a lot of sales. The downside is that he'll just have the repeater sent back to him.

Reading about the Sirus repeater has me intrigued. I could put one in the back of the house for backyard coverage and one in the front for front yard coverage. I almost bet that would then cover the inside of the house fairly well.... Hmmmmm...

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Is it possible for a moderator to advertise his repeater on this site? Maybe he would do a trade off for some advertising. Just a thought.
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Is it possible for a moderator to advertise his repeater on this site? Maybe he would do a trade off for some advertising. Just a thought.
Even with advertising we need more information. If he's really interested in capturing the home market in any capacity he should do some tests and publish his results. Then, after getting a few takers, he can start to establish himself. I know if this repeater worked well in the house and spread out into the yard he'd potentially have a huge seller on his hands.
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