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Old 10-09-2005, 08:30 PM   #286
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Oh, I am surprised to hear that because my portable XM unit works fine here in NY with my regular headphones.
Try them outside an area without a repeater and you'll understand why they are sold with the headphone/antenna. The XM2GO has been the most returned Sat Radio product on the market because of reception issues in areas not served by a repeater.

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Sirius_Rich, I am not surprised that the S50 would move up the ladder quickly, Sirius fans can't wait to get their hands on one of these puppies, me included.
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It all boils down to opinion. I think the current design will work perfectly for most people. No one wants to have to pay for mulitple subscription for a single unit, which is the case if you put the chipset in the cradle kits.
I don't buy the 'multiple subscription for a single unit' argument as a necessity. For one, a 'subscription' for the S50 was not necessary when designing this--it can not receive a signal without a cradle! Really, the chipset could have been included in the cradle since that is where the signal is received. Flawed design...not as user friendly as it could have been...but I may still get one when the price comes down.

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Old 10-09-2005, 09:14 PM   #288
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Flawed design...not as user friendly as it could have been...but I may still get one when the price comes down.
If something works the way it was designed too that isn't a flawed design, so your term of flawed design is incorrect. It will work exactly as it was designed too. The fact is you wish it worked differently, but that doesn't mean its flawed.

I think they designed it in the most logical way they could considering that you want people to be able to use it in multiple cradles for home/office, car or boat with a single subscription. If each one of those need a chipset and had to be authorized separately you'd have a lot of subscriptions because each one of those chipsets would have to be authorized. The only other way they could do it your way would be the clone the chipset and you can bet that isn't EVER going to happen. Changing the design to your way doesn't magically make the need to authorize those chipsets go away now does it? If you know of a way to do so, then by all means cue me in on it, because I sure and heck don't and I really don't think you do either.

On this one you and I'll have to agree to disagree, because logically I just can't agree with you knowing the technology as I think do. Would your way be nice and/or convenient absolute, would it be feasible, NO.
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Old 10-09-2005, 09:32 PM   #289
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You say to try the portable XM unit outside where there isn't a repeater, how do I know where there is one? I am not trying to sound stupid or difficult, but my XM unit works fine at work and the gym. Maybe there are just a lot more repeaters in NY ?
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Flawed design...not as user friendly as it could have been...but I may still get one when the price comes down.
If something works the way it was designed too that isn't a flawed design, so your term of flawed design is incorrect.
Okay, bad choice of words. Poorly designed or ill thought out for the person who works 8 hrs a day, would have been better.

Yes, we will just have to disagree.
I will maintain however that for a unit that is touted as "portable"...it could have been designed in a way that allowed you to record content in the cradle (where the unit has to be to record anyway) while you have the S50 with you at work so as not to miss any daily programing while you are at work with the S50. Having to....record on Monday what you will listen to on Tuesday and record on Wednesday what you will listen to on Thursday (etc) and miss the broadcasts on the days you have the S50 at work is just...well, poorly thought out.

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Maybe there are just a lot more repeaters in NY ?
Yes there is no doubt about that NY has XM repeaters. So this is why it works so well for you. I live in a rural area only served by Sats and without that headphone/antenna, NO SIGNAL! If you go to the Antenna Aimming you can see if you are getting a Terrestrial signal or Satellite.

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Okay, bad choice of words. Poorly designed or ill thought out for the person who works 8 hrs a day, would have been better.

Yes, we will just have to disagree.
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Help me out here... there's a number of "live" shows that play throughout the day, aren't they repeated at night? I'm ok with listening to shows a day late. recording nightly.

wouldn't it make more sense selling the S50 with the home dock and having the car dock as an option? Being portable, who's recording in the car?
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wouldn't it make more sense selling the S50 with the home dock and having the car dock as an option? Being portable, who's recording in the car?
I totally agree! It should come with the home kit and the car kit optional, though honestly I think most of us feel it should come with both at this price.
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Help me out here... there's a number of "live" shows that play throughout the day, aren't they repeated at night? I'm ok with listening to shows a day late. recording nightly.

wouldn't it make more sense selling the S50 with the home dock and having the car dock as an option? Being portable, who's recording in the car?
Yes, those are my feelings exactly. I've already pre-ordered both the unit and home kit for that exact reason. I want mine just for the portable use at work. A car kit is of really no use to me at all. I already have an Audiovox PNP2 in my car. And as far as recording for portable use; who wants to set up a radio to record in the car? I agree, it would have been nice if it came with both kits, but the included one should be the home kit and not the car kit. But, that's just a minor gripe. I can't wait to get mine, even if I do have to pay extra for the home kit. (I just hope the home kit comes out at the same time or very soon afterward. If I get the S50 and no home kit for awhile, that is going to be a bummer. Kind of like a kid with a new toy at Xmas and no batteries. Oh well, I guess if that's the case, I'll be living in my car a lot, because I'll definately be using it and recording somehow )
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I have a TAO. It works just fine with the internal ant. I just checked. I get three bars of signal. I live where there are no XM repeaters.

If you want real XM info, go to a non Sirius forum.

You will just get the "S50 MP3 player is great!" here.
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I have a TAO. It works just fine with the internal ant. I just checked. I get three bars of signal. I live where there are no XM repeaters.

If you want real XM info, go to a non Sirius forum.

You will just get the "S50 MP3 player is great!" here.
Yea, those heavily biased XM boards are great places to get XM info. If you want real XM info go to xmradio.com.
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I have a TAO. It works just fine with the internal ant. I just checked. I get three bars of signal. I live where there are no XM repeaters.
Yeah, I wish viperaven, would come to my house with his TAO and in fact I'll even let him use my Pioneer Airware and let me see him get a signal. If you want to hold it up to the sky or walk around with the antenna facing the line of site to the sats you may get 3 bars of signal, but you won't get any signal inside. Also strap that baby to your side and see what you get with the built in antenna (no signal) is what I get. I hear the new tampon antenna is much improved, but the only way I can use mine outdoors is with the headphone/antenna and then it works quite well.

Sorry viperaven, I am not buying it based on my own experience and you can't hide the fact that a big percentage of these XM2GO tuners have been returned due to reception issues. You are right, you won't get this information on an XM forum, it will just be the same line you are trying to pass along which is BS.

But just for the record the topic here is the S50, not the XM2GO tuners, so please lets stay on topic...
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wouldn't it make more sense selling the S50 with the home dock and having the car dock as an option? Being portable, who's recording in the car?

I agree it should have come with the home dock instead of a car dock. But, I have found a way around this, to save my $100 bucks and use it at home. I bought this cool Cigarette Lighter Panel w/Cup Holder 5 1/4" drive for my computer. I'll be able to plug in the included "car" kit and use the S50 here on my desk to record... plus not to mention, I'll have a nice spot to put my drink. lol.



I just bought this from computer geeks for $10 bucks. Check it out at:
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Now just waiting for my S50.....

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biz week article...

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wouldn't it make more sense selling the S50 with the home dock and having the car dock as an option? Being portable, who's recording in the car?

I agree it should have come with the home dock instead of a car dock. But, I have found a way around this, to save my $100 bucks and use it at home. I bought this cool Cigarette Lighter Panel w/Cup Holder 5 1/4" drive for my computer. I'll be able to plug in the included "car" kit and use the S50 here on my desk to record... plus not to mention, I'll have a nice spot to put my drink. lol.



I just bought this from computer geeks for $10 bucks. Check it out at:
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Now just waiting for my S50.....

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Cool, i need a cup holder....
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