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Old 10-21-2005, 08:01 AM   #346
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So......with the discounts, the S50 could be had for $329? Now we are talking.
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Old 10-21-2005, 08:28 AM   #347
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Sirius has never released these unit and allowed reviews until available. So, this is not uncommon, nor does it mean anything. You are reading way, way too much into there being no review.
Wow, I got 2 "ways"! I guess I don't understand how people can comment how great this unit is yet nobody can write a review. I don't deny the feature set sounds nice but that doesn't make it a good unit.

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What Sirius Sat Tuner have you seen a review on before it was available for purchase at retailers? I've been around for 4 years now and I've not seen a one.
Honestly, I don't pay THAT close attention to notice when things are being reviewed. It would seem that something so important as this S50 that a pre-launch review would be appropriate.

With that said, I'm saving my bucks to hear what people have to say after actually using the unit.
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Old 10-21-2005, 10:26 AM   #349
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The S50 is the closest thing. They aren't coming out with a "live" portable, not any time soon that is. Maybe next X-mas?
I am not so sure your statement is true. I still think Sirius will have a live portable much sooner than anyone thinks.
I realize that I may or may not be correct in the timing, but what evidence have you seen that they will be coming out with a live portable sooner than later. The only thing I've seen is a comment from Sirius that they didn't do a live portable because of reception issues.
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The S50 is the closest thing. They aren't coming out with a "live" portable, not any time soon that is. Maybe next X-mas?
I am not so sure your statement is true. I still think Sirius will have a live portable much sooner than anyone thinks.
I realize that I may or may not be correct in the timing, but what evidence have you seen that they will be coming out with a live portable sooner than later. The only thing I've seen is a comment from Sirius that they didn't do a live portable because of reception issues.
What evidence have you seen that they will not? The Rego's departure/rehash had nothing to do with it's live signal ability.
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Old 10-21-2005, 12:17 PM   #351
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Honestly, I don't pay THAT close attention to notice when things are being reviewed. It would seem that something so important as this S50 that a pre-launch review would be appropriate.
Bill gave you a couple professional type reviews on the S50. Though I am always suspect and never find those type reviews to be very good because they are so general and don't review much in the way of getting to the heart of features.

You will get some really good detailed hands on reviews once the first batch of these puppies hit store shelves.


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I realize that I may or may not be correct in the timing, but what evidence have you seen that they will be coming out with a live portable sooner than later. The only thing I've seen is a comment from Sirius that they didn't do a live portable because of reception issues.
In my opinion the fact that the Rego is still on Xact Communications web site and that Walmart recently had it on their web site as an item they would be selling. (I am not buying Orbitcast or GetSiriusInfo claims that the Rego is history) It was said something about some sort of date was missed and so it was pulled from Walmart's web site. However the home kit is still there and I suspect the tuner will eventually make an appearence as well.

Jeff our Admin had a demo of the Xact Rego and I can tell you that live reception was NOT the reason they didn't go forward with them. He expressed to me reception was very good. There were some other technical issues related to heat because of the 2.5g chipset. (my opinion I have no confirmation of that) The 3.0g chipset doesn't run nearly as hot as indicated by the Starmate Replay, which I now own and I think the Rego is being retooled to use the 3.0g chipset.

The fact is that Sirius needs to have BOTH type devices on the market and I believe they will sooner rather than later. But now I am going to reverse the question, what evidence do you have that they won't have one? Please don't tell me the Orbitcast and GetSiriusInfo info, because that is just some ones opinion and neither of them can provide a source from within Xact or Sirius that will say the Rego is dead.
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I forgot about the ReGO, I'll retract my statement.
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Of course the lack of an arm band isn't going to stop anyone from buying - I just think it's funny.

Why not slip it into the box?

Why is it the only accessory missing?

How much more per unit would the S50 cost to include a piece of velcro? Is the box too small for it to fit? Does xact make the arm band and fail to deliver on time? How much will the arm band cost retail? Will it be in stores by x-mas? What colors? Will it be velcro, or have holes like a watch band? Can I get it in leather? The mind boggles...

As for other websites (getsirius, e.g.) they do a good job of summarizing the gossip. Maybe the technology is too new, but I find the lack of concrete details for s50 and rego (on all websites) frustrating.

I've been waiting on a portable unit since LY when Stern first announced. Now half of football season is over and I'm missing Wendy - I just want this thing already.
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Yes you are I was listening to her this AM. The whole HS makes her horney and stuff was pretty funny.
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All I want is a portable Sirius unit that I can walk around with and listen to realtime broadcasts, not something that i have to pre-load with shows... I have my iPod for that..

It seems that the MyFi (which came out last Xmas) is the type of receiver that works exactly how I'd like it to - with the key exception that it doesnt have the satellite service I want..

A year later, there should be SOMETHING that Sirius has that does this.. Right????? I mean a whole year later, and not even something in the works - it just doesnt make sense..
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I don't care about the arm band, I don't want one. I want a head band so I can proudly show off this piece of engineering to everybody.
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It seems that the MyFi (which came out last Xmas) is the type of receiver that works exactly how I'd like it to - with the key exception that it doesnt have the satellite service I want..
You are correct, but lets look a little deeper. The Myfi return rate was as high as 35% in some retail locations because of poor reception. It took XM a year to figure out that the built in antenna wasn't cutting it in areas not served by a reapter. A few months ago they came out with the headphone/antenna setup which has certainly helped and was step in the right direction. Now they've come out with the ClipiX or whatever its called which improves reception greatly. I was one of the folks that returned a Myfi because of reception issues and apparently I was not the only one.

I feel Sirius didn't want to have to deal with this an opted to go with this type setup. The bottom line is if doesn't suite your needs then you just don't buy it. There will be one come along very shortly that will provide live reception, but it may not be the form factor or look the way we'd prefer it too, but it will do the job.

Sirius has been and remains basically a full chipset behind XM. This is a reality and it is something that Sirius has had to contend with on the hardware side. I still to this day think that most of the Sirius tuners are better than XM tuners not only in features, but display wise as well. XM's tuners shine in terms of mounting and being smaller. This is what has allowed them to go out with the XM2GO line.

By the way I have a Pioneer Airware because of the add on accessories that allowed me to get acceptable reception. The XM2GO tuners are far from perfect. I could name several issues I have with them, but I won't.

I think many times people forget Sirius basically had to start from scratch with its technology due to the moving sats etc. This presented many issues that XM has NEVER had to contend with. XM basically ripped WorldSpace's design and then moved forward with it. This gave them a huge advantage right out of the gate and therefore to this day Sirius is still playing catch-up. This will continue for at least a couple of more chipsets in my opinion.
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I understand why Sirius is behind XM, but Sirius does have the 3g available now, no? In my opinion they could have come out with a live portable unit by now, and if they were so worried about the high return rate, then they could have easily followed XM's lead and offered some type of external antenna. I, for one, would have been willing to have a clip on antenna if I had to rather than have nothing. All I'm saying is that I am disappointed that Sirius is not even talking about a live portable unit which leads me to wonder how long it will be before we see one. With Stern coming and all the other talk shows, I really feel they are going to miss out on alot of subscribers. I have been thinking about the S50, but I really do not see how it can fit me needs, I would have rather taken my chances with a portable live unit and if I had to use some type of clip-on antenna. Though since my XM unit works fine, I doubt I would have needed it.

I haven't been able to justify spending $450 just so I can listen to recorded content most of the day while I am at work or the gym. The thing that really causes me to wait on the S50 is if I am at work listening to recorded content, when will I be able to have it in the dock to record more? Are going to rerun all the talk shows again at night? I agree this unit may work for some, I am just not sure if it will work for me.
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Even with a headphone antenna included, danbo, the signal would still be worse than XM. They need to work on their repeater network and/or launch their 4th satellite first.
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I think many times people forget Sirius basically had to start from scratch with its technology due to the moving sats etc. This presented many issues that XM has NEVER had to contend with. XM basically ripped WorldSpace's design and then moved forward with it. This gave them a huge advantage right out of the gate and therefore to this day Sirius is still playing catch-up. This will continue for at least a couple of more chipsets in my opinion.
Yes, this was and still is a major problem. I think this was Sirius's worst and dumbest move. Why they chose to go out on their own and go with the moving satellites instead of using the Worldspace technology is a mystery to me? I think it was and still is a dumb move. They should have used the same stationary set up as WorldSpace and XM and put the extra money into a real repeater network like XM has. This has plagued Sirius from day one. It was supposed to be a better system, but to me, it seems to have been a collosal waste of money and time that has kept them behind in technology.
Of course I prefer Sirius's programming and think it is heads and shoulders above XM's, but technology-wise, I think Sirius made some dumb moves from the outset. I think the fact that they are now pondering launching a stationary sat. of their own proves that they know this now.
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