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Old 11-07-2005, 08:56 AM   #526
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DAB, from reading what Orbitcast, Jeff, and Sirius.com says I gather it automatically does it. But, you are right, we'll see when we get our hands on it.
It says; Let the SIRIUS S50 do the work for you with My SIRIUS Channels: it automatically learns your favorite channels and captures programming from your 3 most listened to music channels.

It learns your favorite channels and captures programming from your 3 most listened to channels, but does that REALLY mean it does it simultaneously. It just not clear enough to say that for sure. It seems that is what they are saying, but it seems to me to be able to record data from 3 different channels at the same time would require multiple tuners. Perhaps they found a way to do it, but it will be interesting to see how this feature works.
Yeah the "learning your favorite channels and automatically storing content" sounds cool. Kind of like what Tivo does for TV with it's "suggestions" (and I love that feature). But as far as recording 3 channels simultaneously, I really don't think that is going to happen. I don't see anywhere in the statement where it says it will gather content from 3 favorite channels at the same time. I think this would require 3 seperate tuners, and I don't believe there is anyway around that. So I think it will record from 3 favorite channels at different times. At least that's the way I read it. But that's not a big deal to me. Sure recording more than one channel at a time would be cool, but even without that, all the other features are incredible and more than enough for me. I can't wait . Hope it ships later this week!
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I think what they mean now is they're gonna record programming off the channels you listen to most when you tune to them. That makes more sense.
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Old 11-07-2005, 12:54 PM   #528
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I think what they mean now is they're gonna record programming off the channels you listen to most when you tune to them. That makes more sense.
I agree that does make more sense. I just don't see that it is technically possible to record music from 3 channels simultaneously.
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I just don't see that it is technically possible to record music from 3 channels simultaneously.
I suppose there are different bandwidth issues, but I use iFill - http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/ifill/ to record multiple internet radio streams simultaneously on my iPod. Seems pretty simple code. Just the download bottleneck.
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Wow that's a nice program. Anything similar for just recording streams to mp3 files on the computer? Or wav files for editing? I don't have an ipod
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I suppose there are different bandwidth issues, but I use iFill - http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/ifill/ to record multiple internet radio streams simultaneously on my iPod. Seems pretty simple code. Just the download bottleneck.
This is hardly the same thing. That program can log into 3 streams at once (bandwidth is all that is required), to do the same on a sat radio would require ability to pull data from 3 channels and without separate tuners I just don't think it is technically possible. A tuner can only be tuned to one channel at a time.
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'Time Out,' RIAA Says On Shifting Satellite Radios

By Joseph Palenchar -- TWICE, 11/7/2005

NEW YORK— The music industry is pressing consumer electronics suppliers to incorporate a “time-out” feature in future time-shifting digital satellite radios, according to Samsung.

Presumably, the music industry will demand a similar feature for any time-shifting HD Radio (digital AM/FM) tuners that might be developed in the future.


The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) declined to comment, but in an e-mail survey of consumers, Samsung cited “a recent push by the recording industry” to make time-shifted satellite radio content on planned flash-memory MP3 players “expire” on the player 90 days after it is recorded. The survey also said that “this 'expiration' could be avoided by transferring the recorded content to your personal computer for an additional cost, but if the fee is not paid, the content on the player would become permanently inaccessible after 90 days.”

The survey coincides with a renewed push by the music industry (see TWICE, Oct. 24, p. 6) to control copying of digital satellite and HD Radio (digital AM/FM) broadcasts and with the growing memory capacity of planned portables that would play time-shifted satellite radio content. As an RIAA spokesman previously told TWICE, "We're trying to prevent cherry picking and library-ing that turns a passive listening experience into an interactive download service, no matter what the platform.''

The Samsung survey also coincides with the postponement by Samsung and Dell of headphone MP3 players that would store blocks of time-shifted XM Satellite Radio broadcasts. The Samsung units were supposed to store user-selected satellite songs for later recall by title, treating the satellite songs much like any other compressed music file. Samsung and Dell shipments were pushed back to the first quarter of 2006 from the fourth quarter of 2005.

Dell and Samsung used almost identical language in explaining their delays. A Dell spokeswoman said her company “has decided to extend its development cycle.” A Samsung e-mail to employees from Thomas Rhee, new business development VP, said the company “extended the development period” of its two planned devices.

For its part, Sirius is encountering “no real shipping delays” for an S50 headphone MP3 player that stores time-shifted Sirius content and allows for playback of time-shifted satellite songs by title, artist, and genre, a spokesman contended. Previously, however, Sirius said shipments would occur in late October or early November, and now the spokesman is saying the S50 will be “available in time for the holidays.”

Although “we're talking to them [the RIAA],” the Sirius spokesman said, “Clearly that [copyright] is not our issue.” The S50 “is a legal product” that complies with the 1992 Audio Home Recording Act, he said. “We carefully designed it to comply with existing law.”

Likewise, XM's VP Brian Shea said the planned Samsung devices “fall within the [regulatory] guidelines” and that the music industry hadn't expressed concerns about XM2go headphone stereos. XM2go portables don't sort stored satellite songs by title, artist or genre, although users can skip past individual songs. The Samsung devices, in contrast, allow for playback of time-shifted satellite songs by metadata.

Shea cited multiple copy-protection safeguards in the Samsung and XM2go devices, including the locking of satellite content onto internal non-removable memory and the lack of digital outputs. As a result, music can't be transferred in digital form to other devices.

The Sirius S50 can make up to 10 scheduled recordings, for up to a total of almost 40 hours, with additional storage set aside for a feature that automatically stores content from the user's three favorite channels.

In addition, the XM2go devices store only up to five hours of XM programming on 128MB of memory, but the time-shifting MP3 players planned by Samsung and Sirius offer much greater capacity: 1GB for the Sirius S50 and 512MB and 1GB for the Samsung devices. With 1GB of capacity, the S50 stores up to 50 hours of Sirius content.

The S50 also offers the ability to store up to 750 songs on an individual basis and store them indefinitely if the user chose not to free up memory for additional time-shifting. After recording up to 10 separate blocks of programming, users listening to each block would be able to view artist, title and genre information as a song is playing but not be able to select individual songs for playback. As the songs are played, however, consumers can opt to save each song as they listen to it. The songs would then be selected for playback by metadata.

The S50's suggested retail was reduced to $329, from $359, including car docking station, and Sirius announced that a $50 rebate will be offered through Dec. 31.
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thanx for that post taxinvestor. It really shed alot of light on everything. I personally dont see anything wrong with these units deleting saved content after 90 days.

I see sirius has changed its release date to " in time for the holidays". Makes you wonder how close this unit is going to be released to the holidays and if this will create any kind of delays.
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I just received my crutchfield winter catalog... the cover has the Sirius S50 as well as a sirius ready kenwood excelon. It also has an xm roady xt...all in all, a great sign for satrad when it makes the holiday cover! Inside is a ton of info on satellite radio, xm and sirius and just about every radio choice imaginable! From home to portable. The S50 got 1/3 of a page, leads the sirius radio pages, and reads:
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>NEW SIRIUS * S50 50 Hours ofsatellite radio and mp3 storage, in one portable package
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> "Introducing the S50 satellite radio/MP3 player, an innovative blend of features that'll make your SIRIUS experience more rewarding. It receives live SIRIUS broadcasts, records SIRIUS content for later enjoyment, and lets you store and listen to your favorite MP3's or WMAs. The bright, full-color display shows all the info you need - channel, artist and song titles in SIRIUS mode, and your song info in MP3/ WMA mode. For added ease, the S50 will call out the name of the channel you've just selected - find your waythrough all 120 + SIRIUS channels without taking your eyes off the road. " (I DID NOT KNOW THIS)
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> "The S50 lets you store up to 50 hours of content - any combination of saved SIRIUS content and MP3/WMA files. When listening to SIRIUS live (only when docked in a compatible cradle), you can pause, rewind and then fast-forward again to the live content. To save content, just press the button with the "check" mark on it. The S50 is smart, too. Over time, it automatically captures content from the SIRIUS channels you listen to most, and stores it on three different "my SIRIUS" channels."
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> "You get the portable accessories you need to use the S50 anywhere. Just charge up the battery - which provides up to 6 hours play time -with the included AC power adapterand slip on the earphones, and you're good to go walking, skating - anywhere. Other portable accessories include an arm band and a belt clip. Car accessories, a remote, and a USB cableare also included. To hear SIRIUS at home too, just get the compatible S50 home kit (see chart on pg. 45) SIRIUS subscription required"
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>Small details follow. A nice pic on the right of the S50 and the subscript "The included car cradle has a convenient "media dial" that'll guide you through any menu"
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I see sirius has changed its release date to " in time for the holidays". Makes you wonder how close this unit is going to be released to the holidays and if this will create any kind of delays.
Yeah, I don't think it will ship on the 11th anyway (I do have one on order, however). Damn RIAA.
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I think it will ship on time and I don't think the RIAA deal is going to effect what SIRIUS does with this product.
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I can't wait to get mine and hope that it ships later this week but that "in time for the holidays" is a little scary to me.
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I'm not sure if this means anything about the release of the S50, but noticed my charge card was hit for the $329 today. Has The Sirius Store been charging right at the time of order or is this a good sign?
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I'm not sure if this means anything about the release of the S50, but noticed my charge card was hit for the $329 today. Has The Sirius Store been charging right at the time of order or is this a good sign?
did you email them?
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