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Old 08-26-2005, 06:42 AM   #91
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Speaking of O and A. Many state how they catch the replays, many across the country have to catch the replay. So if this new piece records what you want (including entire shows) and also keeps a buffer full of your 3 most listened to channels, whats the difference. Too many are getting turned of by XM/O and A fools who are clouding the info about this product.
Yes, but they listen "live" to the replay on the way home from work. Unless you are using the Sirius unit at work to record the morning show, you will be listening a day late since your device will be at home recording while you are at work.

I think this is a cool unit -- I think Sirius should give you the HOME kit and NOT the car kit, as this is more of a recording device than a "regular" PNP sat radio receiver. I think most are more inclined to record at HOME while they sleep and listen during the day. If you only have the car kit, you either have to record in the car while you drive or shell out another $100 to use the main feature of the unit.

Can you record in the car while listening live? Can it record while the car is off (if so, you would have to leave the unit in the car, where it can be stolen AND park in a place where you get clear reception).
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Old 08-26-2005, 07:56 AM   #92
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This is not what most people were looking for. It's electronically an ok looking device, its a very costly media stroage device (I don't dare call it an mp3 player). What Sirius should of offered users was to buy a software that users could put on their home PC's, log into Sirius.com and create their own ability to put shows on their own MP3 players. Most of us have them by now.

What people wanted was a true live portable Sirius radio, and they fell way short of that. You can coat this any way you want it. My opinion is that this will be a bomb for Sirius. I think it will have a high rate of return, becuase people might not fully understand what this does when they buy it, or if it is explained correctly at the store, they simply just won't buy it.

Sirius needs to go back to the drawing board. I think they have made a serious error yesterday. I'm extremely disappointed by what they showed. They have a long way to go and they need to get there fast.
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This is not what most people were looking for. It's electronically an ok looking device, its a very costly media stroage device (I don't dare call it an mp3 player). What Sirius should of offered users was to buy a software that users could put on their home PC's, log into Sirius.com and create their own ability to put shows on their own MP3 players. Most of us have them by now.

What people wanted was a true live portable Sirius radio, and they fell way short of that. You can coat this any way you want it. My opinion is that this will be a bomb for Sirius. I think it will have a high rate of return, becuase people might not fully understand what this does when they buy it, or if it is explained correctly at the store, they simply just won't buy it.

Sirius needs to go back to the drawing board. I think they have made a serious error yesterday. I'm extremely disappointed by what they showed. They have a long way to go and they need to get there fast.
Many of the posters here don't care about live reception, although when the ReGo was introduced, it was fully supported by this site and even touted has being capable of better reception than the XM2Go units. The truth is, it really matters what the average consumer deems is important, not us die-hards (bordering on crazy). If this looks like a very expensive MP3 player to the consumer, it will not sell well at that price point. I think it looks cool and want to check it out, but am still disappointed it does not have live capability.
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Old 08-26-2005, 08:59 AM   #94
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Well a lot of talk today about 50hrs and "huge capacity". I wondered about this before, but now I see on the new pictures a spec sheet showing the units memory capacity at only 1GB. As I posted, I already record Sirius and I can only get 15hrs of music at a bitrate of 192kbps MP3. 192kbps is not that great. If they are listing a capacity of 50hrs then they must be talking about a really low bitrate in whatever format to compress the music down for 50hrs. I can't imagine what that must sound like. And nothing on the spec sheet about a quality setting. I'd rather have 10 hours of good quality over 50 hours of very poor. The battery life is lacking too at 6hrs considering that its only a digital music player while on battery.
6 hours still better than your beloved POS Myfi. It also holds much more programming and songs can be removed individually unlike the XM brick. It looks about 1000 times better with a MUCH nicer color display. And in a smaller package. Matter a fact, Sirius will have the smallest PNP DSR reciever out there. Wow now XM has the big ugly units. Hahahaha
I'm sorry, did somebody confuse me with an XM fanboy. I'm a 2 sub Sirius fan. My complaints are are with this particular device and its capabilities at its suggested pricepoint. I also don't know where you get the idea that you can remove Sirus content from the player. That is not on the spec sheet and I doubt it will let you. My battery complaint is based on the fact that when on battery the Sat Receiver is off. 6hrs for an MP3 player is subpar and Mp3 player is what it is on battery. I think my biggest concern is the compression if there is not a quality setting. I agree with you that it does look nice.

And on the subject of the MyFI. It don't own a Myfi. But I have used one and while I don't pretend to think I can jog with one it is a much better solution than a Power Pod for portable sat radio. They should stop showing people on bikes and jogging listening to these things as if they can while receiving live radio. But to put next to you at a pool, cafe, picnic or some other static local with open sky above, the MyFI is the smallest, most portable satelite solution out there. Right now the Xact Power Pod is the most portable "live" solution Sirius offers and it looks rediculus next to the MYFI.

I think I and others were looking for a lot more with yesterdays annoucements. If it had live capabilities it would have been a hit, but since it doesn't, I'm better off plugging my MP3 player into my boombox and making "podcasts". I hate that word.
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Many of the posters here don't care about live reception, although when the ReGo was introduced, it was fully supported by this site and even touted has being capable of better reception than the XM2Go units. The truth is, it really matters what the average consumer deems is important, not us die-hards (bordering on crazy). If this looks like a very expensive MP3 player to the consumer, it will not sell well at that price point. I think it looks cool and want to check it out, but am still disappointed it does not have live capability.[/quote]

Don't care about live reception? Why not? I would think that, that would be the highest level of importance for users.
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Old 08-26-2005, 10:18 AM   #96
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all this fuss and no live reception eh?

so it's pretty much the prettiest looking $400 1Gb MP3 player? .. yikes...

I love how the interface looks, and the design and the size of the product, just a shame it's an mp3 player and not a sirius tuner.

there go my hopes of having live sirius at the gym .. been hoping for that for the 3.5 years i've been a sub

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Old 08-26-2005, 10:36 AM   #97
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all this fuss and no live reception eh?

so it's pretty much the prettiest looking $400 1Gb MP3 player? .. yikes...

I love how the interface looks, and the design and the size of the product, just a shame it's an mp3 player and not a sirius tuner.

there go my hopes of having live sirius at the gym .. been hoping for that for the 3.5 years i've been a sub

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Unless your gym has a local repeater, I don't think you'll ever get to enjoy seamless live satellite radio while working out. This holds true for both XM and Sirius. The signals just aren't strong enough to penetrate deep into buildings, especially while the receiving antenna is in motion (such as when you're moving around to different equipment while working out).

I think the S50 is an interesting product, but it's not something that I'm going to buy. I agree with the earlier poster who mentioned that it would make more sense to bundle this tuner with a home kit instead of a car kit. I can't imagine the tuner and car kit fitting neatly into a car's interior... they just look too long when attached to eachother. Additionally, since the 50 hours of recorded content seems to be the major selling point, the easiest way to fill the tuner with content would be overnight while attached to a home dock. Sirius still seems to be marketing themselves as a "car centric" product, but this tuner seems suited towards a different market.
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Old 08-26-2005, 10:37 AM   #98
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Well you thought wrong. I KNOW the reception limitations with a portable "live" DSR system and am totally happy having it where I spend 90%+ of my time (in my car and my home). If in the slim chance I need something to take with me and listen live a Boombox has that covered.

We will see if all the XM homers feel the same when the Samsung/XM unit comes out which is supposed to be simular to this unit. There will be no misconceptions with the S50 unit or false advertising like XM did with its "listen to XM radio anywhere" campain. Yeah right, Anywhere that does not like block the signal which is about ........ anywhere. Die Hard DSR folks like ourselves understand the limitations of DSR reception. The words digital and satellite make that clear enough. Normal Joe consumer does not. Look at the reviews and feedback on the boards. Better yet go to a CC or BB and see for yourself how many Myfi's have been returned and why.

Don't get me wrong I am not busting on the Myfi it is a very nice piece. It is just all the negative comments because Sirius has come out with a really sweet, very small PNP unit that has a color screen and a ton of recording options and many other features but does not have a listen live on the go option. If the average Joe knew the limitations that come with DSR reception this would be a no brainer and no where near as big an issue as some people contend.
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Well you thought wrong. I KNOW the reception limitations with a portable "live" DSR system and am totally happy having it where I spend 90%+ of my time (in my car and my home). If in the slim hance I need and can use it the Boombox has that covered.
No disrespect intended towards you, and I'm glad you like the capabilities of this product and feel it meets your needs. However, I think you might not represent the target audience for this product. You're happy with live satellite coverage 90% of the time in your home and car. Sirius already has products that meet the car/home market needs very well, and they cost hundreds of dollars less. This tuner is being marketed towards the portable market, and that's its main selling point. It attempts to solve the lack of live satellite coverage "on the go" by allowing a large amount of recorded programs to be stored. This is a nice feature, but it does limit the convenience of portability a bit. You have to leave the tuner at home in a home kit accessory (for $100 more) to record the content (unless you want to leave the tuner in the car kit, but it's not clear whether you'll get te same recording capabilities without the home kit). You also won't be able to experience all of the channels that Sirius has to offer while in portable mode, only the content that you decided to record. Just because I didn't record First Wave one day doesn't mean that I wouldn't like the ability to flip by it on a station scan. Recorded content is a very nice feature, but I feel that it won't replace the freedom of full channel scanning for many portable users. I might be wrong, but the ability to hear live programming on the go without having to set a tuner in a cradle to record new content would seem to be a desireable feature.

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Yes, this will definitely be interesting! I think the only way XM can trump Sirius on this one is if the Samsung is priced significantly lower. It will be fun to see the spin on this once it comes out

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There will be no misconceptions with the S50 unit or false advertising like XM did with its "listen to XM radio anywhere" campain. Yeah right, Anywhere that does not like block the signal which is about ........ anywhere. Die Hard DSR folks like ourselves understand the limitations of DSR reception. The words digital and satellite make that clear enough. Normal Joe consumer does not. Look at the reviews and feedback on the boards. Better yet go to a CC or BB and see for yourself how many Myfi's have been returned and why.
Fair enough... live reception with the MyFi is not without its problems, especially in its out of the box configuration (internal antenna, lipstick antenna, etc). However, the $30 antenna headphone accessory essentially negates this problem. It's gotten excellent reviews from people who were having problems with live XM reception. Frankly, I'm a bit surprised that Sirius couldn't come up with a similar solution. This is what the Rego was going to do, but it looks like that product won't see the light of day. It's not a perfect solution, as it still won't help if you're using the MyFi on mass transit or inside buildings. But it does make the MyFi very useable for most outdoor activities. If Sirius can sell home kits and recommend placing the antenna outside, why can't they come up with a portable tuner with live reception and specify that portable live reception will work best when you are outside wearing the antenna headphones?

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Don't get me wrong I am not busting on the Myfi it is a very nice piece. It is just all the negative comments because Sirius has come out with a really sweet, very small PNP unit that has a color screen and a ton of recording options and many other features but does not have a listen live on the go option. If the average Joe knew the limitations that come with DSR reception this would be a no brainer and no where near as big an issue as some people contend.
I agree that it's not all "gloom and doom" with the S50. It is a nice product, but I still feel that it somehow missed its mark. It really is a nice, small mp3 player with a great screen that can record Sirius content. But an IRiver H10 with Timetrax will give you similar functionality at a lower price. You'd lose the ability to listen to live Sirius in the car (which I'm still not sure is practical due to the length of the tuner combined with the car kit), but you'd gain 6x to 20x the storage capacity. That's the route I'm going to go. With all of those Sirius songs stored as mp3's on my computer, I'll be able to create some great playlists
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Old 08-26-2005, 11:14 AM   #100
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This is the unit I have been dying for them to release.


Portability is not that big of a deal for me, but it would be nice to listen to live content while walking around.
So you've been dying for Sirius to release...an mp3 player?
Actually, YES!!

I have been an advocate in the past of a unit that is, in essence, like a TIVO, and this unit fits the bill exactly like that, you nitwit.

To be able to set the unit to record content, set like tivo or a vcr, where it turns itself on and records a certain show(especially a talk show you can;t listen too, is super important too me.

And then to be able to listen to that show at YOUR LEISURE(50 hours is alot of time, more than ample, but I do have a question about it) is without question, the best luxury of this unit.

Also genius, keep this in mind. MOST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WORK DURING THE DAY AND DURING THE WEEK, and not everyone likes uncensored material(ESPECIALLY IN THE WORKPLACE). There are alot of people that get easily offended, or just don't want it there in the workplace(which is completely understandable) and with this unit, you can record material, and play it when you have a chance too.

Howard Stern pushes alot of buttons and sets people off in the worst way. If you listen too him at work(or radio period as a person is supposed to be working), alot of people are told to:
1. Turn it off
2. Change the station
3. Keep up listening to the radio, and not working, and your ass is outa here(this last one carries alot of weight with me. Work. Don't listen to the radio).

So this type of radio is nice.

Now my question about the recording time(And I apologize before hand if this has been discussed[ad nauseum] as I have not had the opportunity to read thread on the S50 all the way through).

Is that 50 hours in total time at low recording level? In other words, is it like TIVO when the say ca unit can record 80 hours of content, but at 80 hours, it is at such a crappy level(looks and sounds like SH*&), why bother. Will it have levels of recording like XP, SP, LP, EP, etc...?

Any other info on the recording level will be greatly appreciated.

Also, like others, I have been thinking when this thing hits the market in Oct.(or Nov.) it will be probably at the price point of the current MYFi, $299+tax(the MyFi unit, and the Pioneer might be less by then).

I also agree that the unit should come with the Home docking equipment with the unit, and not the car. I think it would be better suited that way as well.
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No it's not an "expensive MP3 player" DipS*$^. It is a Sirius Radio tuner, with PNP capabilities, with an MP# player and it is the nicest sat rad piece to hit the market.

XM isn't going to work inside a gym or most places the lions share of Sirius customers work! So where's the problem.

"people already have MP3 players, we would rather have software to record of the internet". That sounds great. Lets enable a Napster sitiuation. Oh and think the FCC would allow Sirius to do that and not also charge by the song. yeah right. Not that current studies in EVERY ASPECT OF CONSUMER ELECTRONICS people want multi purpose devices.. DEVICES THAT DO MORE THAN JUST MP3 ALONE OR SIRIUS ALONE!!!

Yes you can record while you are in your car while listening to Sirius live.
No XM doesn't have anything like this.
Oh well, Sirius wasn't able to please every whiner who thinks that R and D is only designing products for them.

Sirius hit a home run with a category first. A great size and look. There will be other products to come, but this is a first. It is not meant to be a MyFi!!! Portable doesn't mean carrying around a crappy looking antenna that makes you look stupid in front of people just to get shit reception. Go complain to XM for again launching a product without getting the kinks worked out! Not Sirius' fault. Now everyone thinks that's the standard, the benchmark if you will. Sirius just created another product category, finally taking the lead on something, but hey most people think like the die hards, so they'll hate this. How many people saying it won't be a success actually work with demographics, product development or outright sales with consumers? If not then stop trying to predict whether it will be a hit or a flop. OUT
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Actually, it's a first to be announced. It ain't here yet, my friend. Remember, Sirius was the first to announce video and failed to deliver it in the 18-month time frame they stated.

If XM has anything planned for the fall, they could be pushed to get it out sooner than planned. Not bashing Sirius, just pointing out that October is 5 weeks away. If XM has a new MyFi device coming, it would likely be smaller and could have MP3. Maybe not. It will be interesting to see what happens. Also, Samsung is coming out with an XM MP3 device -- no photos, few details. If it had a color screen we probably would have heard. But remember, a mono screen didn't hurt Apple. I would trade a color screen for more battery life (I'll probably change my mind when I see the Sirius device).
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YA!!!!! F%K!!! YA!!!!!!!! This will KICK the SHITT out of that Lame ASS myfi!!!!!!!!!
Oh,U can't listen live while on the go,Bla,Bla,Bla,just read the reviews on your Crappy listen to live XM on the go cryfi at circuit city.com,they all bitch about how TERRIBLE the signal,I'd rather record,then listen on the go instead,I can listen it live at home,while I'm recording the stuff I like.
I think that F'N RULES,and did I mention it's 50 Hrs.Hell ya,can't wait to
hear what opie & anthony,and big tits have to say about this unit,I'm sure it will be something bad,like always,but fuk them!!!!!!!!!!!!
.......anmd Sirius STILL HAS A METAL CHANNEL,what does Crap M have,a new Spanish Sports Channel.

YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All Bow Down to the s50!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This is a letdown. It's not live.

I'd rather record Sirius programming to my hard drive and transfer it to my mega-tiny flash .mp3 player, if I were going to listen to stale programming.

Actually, I'd rather just download some podcasts from iTunes.

Where is the true live portable?

And the price!

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