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Old 10-16-2005, 01:06 AM   #151
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Ok, here is the setup in my 2000 Hyundai Accent:

In the first pic, you can see the wiring configuration. I bought some 3/8" flex tubing at Home Depot (3/8" was the smallest they had, I'd rather have smaller), and routed everything behind the console on the passenger side. My AIWA deck has the AUX input on the right side of the unit, so it feeds nicely into the flex tube, along with the power cord. The antenna is routed through the car's trim, and only appears from the front of the dash to connect, so it's virtually invisible.:



The second pic is just another view of the radio above the dash:



Thanks, Sirius_Rich, for mentioning the 3M tape at Wal-Mart. I'm going to pick some up tonight. I just want to tack up the flex tubing a bit, so that it stays in-place (it sits pretty well right now, but I'd like to have it secured).

By the way, I posted these pics partially because if anyone here thinks I could route the wires better, I'd love to hear your suggestions. I like keeping the radio low to the dash, and I can't really think of what else to do with the wires. Since I'm using a direct connection, there'll always be that cable running from the AIWA to the Starmate. I don't mind the flex tubing, but the less visible, the better. Advice or suggestions are welcome.

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No. 3M makes a double sided tape that requires a jack hammer to get anything off the windshield. The tape is about 1/8" thick and gray in color. You can get it at Wally World.
So the radio is non removable then? I was thinking doing something simular but with a setup where I can take it inside the office daily so maybe velcro is my option although I would like a better bond between the velcro strip (sticky part) and the windshild,. Oh by the way what is the angle of the radio sitting up there? I tried mine and its like 35-45deg which makes me wonder if the LCD will be visible good in all conditions up there
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So the radio is non removable then? I was thinking doing something simular but with a setup where I can take it inside the office daily so maybe velcro is my option although I would like a better bond between the velcro strip (sticky part) and the windshild,. Oh by the way what is the angle of the radio sitting up there? I tried mine and its like 35-45deg which makes me wonder if the LCD will be visible good in all conditions up there
The Starmate pictured in my post is mounted on an inverted "V" piece of plastic. I would estimate 30-40 degrees of angle. It would be very easy to use the double sided tape on the mounting "V" and velcro the Starmate to that. My son works in the oilfield and roads are not paved a lot of the time. Velcro has a tendacy to come unglued (pun intended) in the West Texas heat.

He wanted a semi-permanent mount. He does have a PNP2 and boom box to take out to the drilling rig while he works. BTW, he likes the idea of the Family Plan as he is paying for his own service and both subscriptions. This I love, lol.

Sounds like the Sportster IR would suite your needs a little better.
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very nice installs tenohtwo and Sirius_Rich!
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Velcro has a tendacy to come unglued (pun intended) in the West Texas heat.
Speaking of heat does he have any problems with the radio getting too much heat from the sun being stuck right at the top of the winsheild like that?
I live in FL so weget a lot of heat too so I was wondering if I went with that setup if my ubit would get hot parked in the sun.
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By the way, I posted these pics partially because if anyone here thinks I could route the wires better, I'd love to hear your suggestions. I like keeping the radio low to the dash, and I can't really think of what else to do with the wires. Since I'm using a direct connection, there'll always be that cable running from the AIWA to the Starmate. I don't mind the flex tubing, but the less visible, the better. Advice or suggestions are welcome.

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Here is my 2 cents.

What do you use the little compartment under the Starmate for? If nothing, then I would take your dash apart and drill a hole in the pocket. Then I would route the wires through the hole and inside the dash to avoid having all that wire exposed.

Next I would tap in somewhere behind your HU for power. You could use the switched power for your HU. Then you will free up your power outlet for something else and not have the power wire showing.

Is that the only place where you can direct connect to your HU in the front? If so, then I would connect to that the same way as I mentioned in my first point. Just sneek it around the right side of the HU and plug it in.


This is the wires you would see (in yellow), so basically all the wires you have would be hidden:

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Thanks, Michigan Made, definitely excellent suggestions. Yeah, I've been staring at that little compartment under the Starmate, and wondering how to make use of it. I think it's deep enough to hold, say, a pack of cigarettes. I've never taken a dash apart before, so I'll have to look into that. I never thought of tapping into the power of the HU, either. As clean as I have the wire routing, I'd still rather not see anything at all.

In the meantime, I removed two pieces of the tubing, and tucked away the power cord, so now just one tube is exposed. (My g/f took off with the camera, so I did a quick Photoshop rendition):



Anyway, I'm going to look into taking the dash apart.

Thanks for the info!

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Its a nice install, but my one comment would be, why didn't you use the smaller wire covering? They make that small stuff that wraps around the wires and its not nearly as noticeable and its even available in gray. This would have helped blend the wires in so that it didn't stand out so much. Anyway.... Good job none the less.

To answer waves question, I found that having any tuner including this one where it is in direct sunlight will indeed make them run much, much warmer than having them in a location where the sun isn't going to shine on them directly all the time.
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I looked here to see if it would help. It doesn't look like your car though.

I looked at the Sante Fe and it looked more like your set up.

Maybe we can find a mount that you could screw into that pocket. Then the wires would completely be hidden. Then you could avoid using the suction cup mount as well (if you wanted to).

I'm not sure what the mounting piece looks like that comes with the Starmate.
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Its a nice install, but my one comment would be, why didn't you use the smaller wire covering? They make that small stuff that wraps around the wires and its not nearly as noticeable and its even available in gray. This would have helped blend the wires in so that it didn't stand out so much. Anyway.... Good job none the less.
Thanks, DAB. Actually, I would like to use smaller (and definitely gray) wire cover - where can I find some? I have a Home Depot literally walking distance from my house, so that's why I went there. I suppose I could see what Radio Shack has, unless you have a suggestion?

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Check Radio Shack, Lowe's, and even a car parts store.

But, if you do the proposed wire hiding you won't need it.
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Check Radio Shack, Lowe's, and even a car parts store.

But, if you do the proposed wire hiding you won't need it.
Cool, thanks. I'll keep you posted on what I do.
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Thanks, DAB. Actually, I would like to use smaller (and definitely gray) wire cover - where can I find some? I have a Home Depot literally walking distance from my house, so that's why I went there. I suppose I could see what Radio Shack has, unless you have a suggestion?
Hi Jim,

I think MM gave you some good suggestions as to where to look. I know that I bought some gray at AutoZone. I have also seen it at Radio Shack though I don't remember if they had the colors.

If you don't want to tackle hiding the wires at least minimizing the way they stand out will certainly help. The small gray I have used in my company van and though you can see it, at least it doesn't stand out now.

Good luck and once you get it down with the gray if you go that route, I'd like to see the pictures.

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Thanks guys. I'm really impressed with how friendly and helpful everyone is here. Not to generalize, but I'm sort-of suprised how some XM fans seem almost hateful towards Sirius. I don't know if it was the site I visited (xmfan.com), but it seems like a lot the posters there take shots at Sirius any chance they can get, almost seemingly out of bitterness. I notice that there is no 'good guy-bad guy' mentality here, and that a lot of people here are subscribed to both services. I know that it's a matter of personal taste dictating which service one thinks is better. I visited XMFAN out of curiosity, to see what their listeners have to say about XM. I saw a lot of Sirius bashing on that forum, which is unfortunate.

The reality is that we're all on the same team. I don't want to see XM fail for the same reason as not wanting to see Sirius fail. This is the future of radio, and I say the more, the merrier. Anyway, you all have made me feel welcome and comfortable here, which is how all forums should make people feel. Just wanted to share that.

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What's that God-awful ugly cable??????
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