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Old 09-23-2005, 11:03 PM   #16
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Looks like a good first purchase (or christmas present )
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Old 09-24-2005, 12:33 AM   #17
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I also think this is the best tuner out there now, and the price is right.
I think the price is a little too high for new Sirius users. I would like to see this in a 'gift pack' for the holidays that includes 3 months service for $99, with NO rebates, NO activation fee. Then Sirius should advertise: "smallest receiver with replay + exclusive content + special holiday gift pack". I think Sirius can do this: (1) Sirius is often running hardware rebates anyway. (2) the service is 12.95/month, but it costs significantly less to run it. (3) Gift purchasers will like the idea that the person receiving the gift won't have to put forth money to use it on day 1.
(4) the person receiving the gift may not like the idea of paying for radio, but they'll figure '3 months free, might as well give it a chance'. =)
(5) The package can stay the same, Sirius can just put a big, yellow triangle-shaped sticker in the upper-right corner of the package, saying "Special Gift Pack - 3 months service included!" Then insert a paper in the box with a special number that the customer contacts Sirius with, that authorizes 3 months service. The number can just be the result of the receiver serial number (which Sirius already knows) times some super complex math formula. The Sirius computers could do the math formula in less than a second, but yet be hard for others to reverse-engineer. (especially since it would be a limited-time offer).
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Old 09-24-2005, 12:39 AM   #18
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I definately think that XM and SIRIUS with 3 months of service will be under $100 this christmas, however, the newer products like the replays may be at a higher cost.
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Old 09-24-2005, 12:45 AM   #19
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Well, I hope Sirius advertises the Starmate Replay a lot, anyway.
Sirius needs to take advantage of the fact that the $50 Roady2 has no replay.
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Old 09-24-2005, 02:39 AM   #20
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This sounds excellent.. but it sounds UNBEATABLE as a gift pack. I would give so many away.. SIRIUS PLEASE LISTEN.. this idea is great -g
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Thanks for the excellent review, DAB.
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Old 09-24-2005, 09:57 AM   #22
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I really like the look and features of this receiver... but I'm never going to buy one. The need to unplug three connectors to move the unit really detracts from a PNP. Since I take my PNP into the house at night and back to the car in the morning as well as sticking it in the glove box if parked for an extended time, the process is too cumbersome for me. I can use one hand to insert or remove my Sportster from its cradle.

I suppose the smaller sizes necessarily forego the cradle since the connector adds to the bulk. Now if there was a way to produce a "cable connector block" that holds the connectors in one unit and enables them to be plugged/unplugged at one time... that would be great.

Is cradleless the wave of the future? If so I hope some sort of quick attach/detach system will evolve.

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Is cradleless the wave of the future? If so I hope some sort of quick attach/detach system will evolve.

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I don't think it's the wave of the future, but one of the product types that seem to allow the tuner to be offered at a lower price. I Could see them making a fast on and off connector that was only one connector to pull that would make it easier and more practical.

You do make a very good point and that is if you plan on moving it frequently, then a PNP with a cradle is the way to go. For infrequent moves, the lack of a cradle isn't a big deal.
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I have had my Sportster for little more than a year so I figure not to be buying a new PNP for at least another year. It will be interesting to see how designs shake out in that time. The connectors are the "only" reason I don't like the Skymate Replay... and I would dearly love to have artist search.

Some sort of cradleless quick connect system would need to be an accessory, either oem or aftermarket. No way you could bond a permanent connector when there is the need to run an antenna from outside the car. I think I need to see one of these units in the store to see if I can conceive of some sort of home-built system.

When I bought my Sportster I also sprung for the 4 year replacement warranty which in retrospect was a mistake since I can't conceive of not upgrading to a new unit for four years.

I'm waiting for someone to say buy the Skymate Replay for the car and keep the Sportster for the home. That works. In my case I don't want to spend more money on a subscription but it certainly is a valid way to go.

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I'm waiting for someone to say buy the Skymate Replay for the car and keep the Sportster for the home. That works. In my case I don't want to spend more money on a subscription but it certainly is a valid way to go.

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I think you talked yourself into it.
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Just got mine today (I live in MA, ordered form CMA on Thursday Afternoon with FREE shipping, thats amazing! :-) )

This is such a sweet tuner its amazing. My old PNP (a 2G JVC) is so huge in comparison!

I LOVE the jump button, the way it waits for your city to start on the station--I NEVER managed to catch it when its on Boston, its Always atlanta (And i assume listeners in Atlanta only hear Boston). I know a few other radios had this button, but my old one didnt and this is such a sweet feature.

The screen is nice and easy to read, and the unit does not heat up as much as the others.

30 S-Seeks with Artist seek?.....w00t! nuff' said.
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Dana I think you're complicating it way way too much. This tuner is well worth the extra $6.99 per month, not to mention the convenience of not having to always lug your PNP with you everywhere you go. I can't tell you how many times I've driven off only to realize I had left my PNP.

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Do you guys agree that after a while of plugging and unplugging those connections on the starmate something on the unit or cords going to wear out. I really like the unit but with me having a need to move it between car and work its gonna stink pluging and unpluging it.

Can anyone comment who have the older starmate and uses it in and out of the car frequently?
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I personally think if you take care plugging and unplugging that these connectors will last a long time. But the real deal is this. If you KNOW you are going to be moving it several times a day, then you probably need to go with a PNP cradle type tuner. However, we've had reports of even those wearing out. But again it all goes to how much care you take.

I had a Roady that I plugged and unplugged several times a day for a year and half and never had a single problem with it. So, I don't see this as much a problem with the connectors going bad as I do just being inconvenient. Don't get me wrong I am sure that there have been some connectors that have failed as with many tuners, but I often question how careful folks are when pluggin and unplugging.

Just to clarify by taking care I mean yanking the plugs out, forcing them in things like that. I systematically plug and unplug mine and I honestly just don't expect I am going to have any issues. Considering how many older Starmate were sold, I don't think I've heard many complaints about connectors wearing out.
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How big is this compared to the Starbase display unit?
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