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Old 12-20-2006, 03:11 PM   #16
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millertv, nobody said it would.

The topic of this thread was a failed Sportster 4. It does not fail the way your Starmate Replay fails. YOU were the one to bring YOUR Starmate Replay problem into the thread. YOU were the only one to suggest that turning off the radio (actually, I would go farther and suggest powering it down completely) could have prevented your Starmate Replay problem.

Thank you for trolling here today. Have a nice day.
DUDE YOU ARE NUTS WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT CAN YOU EVEN READ I SAID NOTHING OF THE SORT ABOUT POWERING THE RADIO DOWN

"not wanting to hear any possible solution, then having him bash us for trying to be helpful" WHAT have you said that's helpful??? Name one thing. Are you serious man?

i thought this forum would be a place for the consumer to RISE UP and say HEY you corporate asses we're not going to keep spending our hard earned money for YOUR shotty equip. I thought we could take Sirius to task on their "plug n play" claims. Instead you just bash me for complaining and for stating how horribly sirius handled the problem! i relate a horrible experience and i just get bashed? wow man. makes me think this whole problem runs ever deeper = that certain people would be SO upset that i would raise this issue. why is that? do tell... packerfan had the same problems i had. he agreed with everything. but some others....
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Old 12-20-2006, 04:38 PM   #17
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I'm not going to go so far as to say I'm pissed at any entity, but for the thing to last a month under assuredly forecasted use isn't excusable by any "You're dealing with sensitive electronics!" kind of speak. You saying that my iPod hasn't failed, but might, only drives my case further. I've had the thing for YEARS and the entire case is dented and scratched from me dropping it on the street or wherever else it gets used. The fact is that it actually has qualities that give the consumer confidence that the product is safe for them to use without worry.

Then, comparing my use to just unplugging my computer via the powerstrip is quite the oversimplification. I mean, I looked all over my alarm clock, but I couldn't for the life of me find it's power switch.. oh hell no it's stuck there for ever lest I dare unplug it NOOO!!! Just because it has a switch in no way implies that it must be shutdown that way. In fact, plugging my computer into a switched outlet and using the lightswitch on my wall works just dandy.

Unless you can provide some sort of knowledge of why this is a bad idea, other than that it's common sense, I think that YOU are the troll. You aren't in the least bit contributing anything useful except overbearing parent type advice. Who cares what you think is the right thing.

How do i treat this replacement now? It would be great if a procedure documented what to do and what not to do so that at least I know if what I'm doing is correct or not. Until then, I'll do the 'right' thing, and power it off before I unplug. Oh wait, can you tell me if the LCD powering off indicates that it is off, or if it takes the IC's a few more ms to do a cleanup routine? I'd hate to trample all over that sensitive process too.
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Old 12-20-2006, 04:39 PM   #18
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I SAID NOTHING OF THE SORT ABOUT POWERING THE RADIO DOWN

WHAT have you said that's helpful?

i thought this forum would be a place for the consumer to RISE UP...
I misspoke. I should have said 'YOU were the only one to make a connection between turning off the receiver and the jack breaking'. Better?

What advice have you asked for?

You thought wrong. Read the forum guideline.
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Old 12-20-2006, 04:50 PM   #19
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...for the thing to last a month under assuredly forecasted use isn't excusable...

In fact, plugging my computer into a switched outlet and using the lightswitch on my wall works just dandy.

You aren't in the least bit contributing anything useful except overbearing parent type advice.

How do i treat this replacement now?
I agree.

You didn't answer the question: Do you turn off the computer on the power strip? Do you not bother to close programs and use the 'Shut Down' routine on the 'Start' button? Do you really think that, other than in an emergency, like a power outage, that that is smart?

I'll have to take your word for that. I was simply trying to explain, from an experienced electronics technician's standpoint, what we consider common knowledge.

That's up to you.
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Old 12-20-2006, 04:50 PM   #20
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millertv, my question about powerin the units off was aimed at the people who have the newer starmate 4, sportster 4 and other newer models that use the universal cradles, just like the original poster. I will say one thing about your problem. I had a roady 2 for my XM subscription and it plugs in the same way as the starmate replay. Well from taking that back and forth from truck to house the plug for the power inside the unit broke, so i had to get another one, and from what I understand it was one of the nagging problems with the roady and roady 2 for those who moved it around alot. so the problem is in the design and it has plagued both sirius and XM. thats most likely the reason for the redesign of the new model starmate.
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I misspoke. I should have said 'YOU were the only one to make a connection between turning off the receiver and the jack breaking'. Better?

What advice have you asked for?

You thought wrong. Read the forum guideline.
CAPN i'm sick of you not being aboe to read. i never said a word about any connection at all between powering off/up and the jack breaking. nothing at all. jesus.

and second, what forum rule says "this is not a place for consumers to band togehter to right things that are wrong"? quote me that line please. since you're the forum master and all i'm sure you'll know it.

dude YOU said that i didn't take any advice! if i never asked for any, why would you comment to me that i complain about people's advice. dude you are all over the place, you make my head hurt. take some ADD meds. try ritalin it works.

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Old 12-21-2006, 08:27 AM   #22
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CAPN i'm sick of you not being aboe to read. i never said a word about any connection at all between powering off/up and the jack breaking. nothing at all. jesus.

and second, what forum rule says "this is not a place for consumers to band togehter to right things that are wrong"? quote me that line please. since you're the forum master and all i'm sure you'll know it.

dude YOU said that i didn't take any advice! if i never asked for any, why would you comment to me that i complain about people's advice. dude you are all over the place, you make my head hurt. take some ADD meds. try ritalin it works.
Want me to post your quote again?

"Right things that are wrong" and "rise up against Sirius" are two very different things, unless you are a very disturbed person.

IF YOU want advice, ask for it. Someone will almost certainly respond. YOU have never asked for advice, therefore never been given any. BUT you have bashed others who offered advice. I'm not surprised your head hurts. Please take your own meds.

I'm adding you to my ignore list. I have yet to read ONE post by you that wasn't utter and complete garbage.
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Old 12-21-2006, 12:15 PM   #23
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LOL add me to your ignore list? how long is that list, and who has an ignore list? i'm sorry mr. forum father if my post aren't up to your standards but 1) who cares what you think and 2) again, who cares what you think?

capn': blast off and be gone
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totally off base of the original post. it turned into an argue fest, good job guys.
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Sorry about that, rayndog.

The same thing happened about this time last year. It bummed me out, then, too. I guess there are a lot of kids off for the holidays who feel the need to spread their anger and geekiness, so we become their natural target.

Or, maybe, that guy was an XM fanboy. He sounds fairly lacking in knowledge about the product he was supposedly unhappy with.

Either way, please accept my apology for my part in making this less than a great experience for you.
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Hi all.
Brand new to the board and to Sirius.
You guys got me nervous; I just spent Christmas Day installing the Sportster 4 into my 2005 Escape. I have no plans to move this unit in and out of the car, its going to stay put. Are you saying they have a high failure rate? I received it as a gift and I like it and the service. I sure hope it last more than 6 months. I do not have any extended warranty and would not want to have to wait months to get it back. I have it wired into the same feed as the factory radio so when I turn the car off the factory radio and the Sportster 4 stays on till I open my door witch kills the power to both units. When I turn the ignition on both units power up, I do not have to hit the power button at all on the Sporster 4.
How long is the warranty on this unit anyway?
Thanks for any tips and im sure I'll be posting more (probably dumb questions) in the near future till I get use to the unit and service.
Thanks again
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Oh, man, Lenny! Here you go and get a Sportster 4, then come here and read all this negative stuff about the Sportster 4. No wonder you're nervous!

Let me boil it down a little, and, hopefully, get you feeling a little better about your receiver.

A few people have had problems with the Sportster 4. It happens with any receiver. They make tens of thousands. A few are duds. A lot of people stumble on this board, read a few negative posts, then join the rant-fest.

The Sportster 4 is really a little too new to make any general statement about. Like "Sportster 4's suck!" or "Don't get a Sportster 4!" Even receivers that, initially, seem to blow chunks often get swapped out with receivers that have the bugs fixed.

The only suggestion I have you seem to have covered. The biggest source of wear and tear, I suspect, is the daily installation and removal of the receiver. With a plug and play, like the Sportster 4, that wear is minimized by using a low insertion force connector. Make sure the locking device is engaged so that, when properly inserted, the receiver doesn't break contact with the cradle during heavy vibration.

If and when you remove the receiver from the cradle, power down the cradle first. If you have it hard-wired in, you can do this by unplugging the power plug from the cradle's power jack. That is, of course, it has power. With the accessory power off, the cradle doesn't have power, so you can remove the receiver from the cradle without any problem. Removing the receiver from the cradle won't instantly kill the receiver, but following this precaution may extend the life of the receiver.

The Sportster 4 has been in production for months. Hopefully, most of the bugs have already been worked out, and your receiver will be good for years.

Good luck, Lenny.
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yes capn due to my geekiness i target you. dude you are off your rocker bro. you're right i'm a kid off for the holidays. that's why i've posted about this problem a long ass time ago. man you are smart.

i was not knowelgable about the product i was unhappy with? WHAT? you are a crazy crazy person. yes i must be a xm fanboy that's why many of my posts state how upset i was having to cancel my sirius b/c of how much i like the programming. right that sounds just like a XM fanboy. again, you're smart!


i'll take a cue from you and start an ignore list.

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Old 12-27-2006, 09:10 AM   #29
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yes capn due to my geekiness i target you. dude you are off your rocker bro. you're right i'm a kid off for the holidays. that's why i've posted about this problem a long ass time ago. man you are smart.

i was not knowelgable about the product i was unhappy with? WHAT? you are a crazy crazy person. yes i must be a xm fanboy that's why many of my posts state how upset i was having to cancel my sirius b/c of how much i like the programming. right that sounds just like a XM fanboy. again, you're smart!


i'll take a cue from you and start an ignore list.
Dude, calm down. Biggest rule at SBS is no personal attacks on someone. Consider it your warning.

Now that that is out of the way, I agree with you that Sirius screwed up with the Starmate Replay. I am looking at the box for it(because I have it), and they clearly advertise 'fully transportable'. I think Sirius agrees with you too, because not only have the new Starmates come with docks now, but the only 'dockless' radio is the InV, a radio that they specifically state is for car use only. I would recommend, if your newest Starmate Radio is broken, tell them to switch it out for a Starmate 4 under warranty. If they don't, ask them for XM's number.
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