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Old 01-08-2007, 10:34 AM   #76
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Did you read what I said? My god I had it sitting on my 1000.00 HOME receiver's antenna and got static. HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOO.
Home theater amps receivers are notorious for having poor FM reception, even with an antenna. I need a powered antenna to get anything on mine.

Considering you spent $1000 on a receiver, why would you want inferior quality sound to begin with.
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I have had Sirius Radio for a year or so. Anyway I had a 95 Acura Integra and had a Sirius Radio that was made by Audiovox. I phoned up Sirius about what channel on my Cars FM radio would work out for the best. They asked for my Zip Code and then gave me several choices. Anyway 97.5 FM here on the Central Coast of California Monterey Bay has worked out just great.
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I purchased the External Outdoor Satellite Antenna from Ebay. Recieve all channels very well. Also if someone wants to play Sirius thru. their home systems it is much better to wire it into the input jacks on your Stereo unit.
The sound will be awesome and you wont have to worry about tuning the Stereos FM stations to recieve your satellite signal.
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(1) to the others that just misunderstood and thought I was asking (over and over) with an attitude for help, thanks, I was not. I was responding to the same questions asked over and over by the end as if I were too stupid to master the rare art of water boiling.

(2) to Rusty farm implement you sir were condescending, attacking and just plain silly. If you read my posts you will see I was clearly not asking for anything.

I am not the OP. I did not have at the time this thread was posted an FM problem per se. I had figured out that the s50 as sold on December 18th 2006 to me by Sirius was under powered and therefore I bought and installed aux inputs in the two cars I have that needed them.

I was simply validating and being empathetic of the plight of the op.

I apologize if I came across as harping and complaining I was responding to the same question which as in Who's on first, when Costello jut does not grasp that the names are also pronouns and Abbott gets frustrated, I too got frustrated.

Thank you and good day.

Additionally apparently Sirius agrees that they have a responsibility because I finally spoke to someone from their executive customer service who told me to order the fm connection deal and that they would reimburse me in the form of a credit to my account.

I explained I had already connected through the line out so that was unnecessary and told them they saved my business with their offer.


My Harman Kardon has a very good FM receiver and I was only using it that way to see how weak the S50's output was.


Am I harping if people keep bringing up things I already said? I think Not.

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I got a couple of $20 relays, spent about a half hour putting each in, and the problems were fixed.

There must be some very naive folks out there if they think that Sirius is the only company in the world that may or may not tell all the truth in their ads...
Exactly a whopping $20 and the problem is solved. Sure it takes some effort and for some that do not feel they are capable of doing it would need to have it done. To think that all this is going to be on the box is what is silly in my opinion.

The thing about SIRIUS and XM they advertise that they have FM Trans and they do. For some they work okay for others they do not, depending on now many of the frequencies are used in your area. None the less the real deal is that FM Trans don't provide the best level of SQ. If these units were total junk and the FM Trans didn't work at all even hooking us the FM Relay or FM Connector would not work.

However, even with all this said, we now see that SIRIUS is being more proactive as indicated by the newly released InV and Stiletto both include the additionally needed parts to provide better FM Transmission.

There are also a select few that have one bad experience and suddenly everything is junk and SIRIUS is terrible regardless if that was no one else's experience or not. I am pissed so I am just going to speak in general terms as if I speak for everyone. Generally if they just call back or make a little more effort they find a solution.
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funny, when I needed a CD player in my car back in 1990, we needed a CD walk man, tape adapter, power adapter for the CD player, a mount for the CD player so it wouldn't skip (as much) and wires ALL OVER THE GOD DAM PLACE which ended up costing WAY MORE than the $200 for the CD walkman that skipped every time someone on the same bench seat farted AND WE WERE GLAD TO HAVE THAT.

Come on here like a high roller to complain about something that's under $100 to fix (and even cheaper if you spent 3 seconds to do it yourself).

Yeah, I'm the ass.
What I find funny is that someone can't come on here and voice an opinion without several people jumping down their throat. There is a legitimate argument to make that the products aren't that great right now. Doesn't me the programming isn't, or that the company is completely crappy, but jeesh, what is a little criticism, and why the heck do you care that much, and why do several people here take it upon themselves to try to contradict everything that someone says.

If you don't agree, voice your opinion - but try doing it in a constructive manner, and if if bothers you that much, then don't respond, and ignore the person - not jump down their throat and belittle them.

You and several others have made points along the lines of - many companies advertise products that aren't completely true - how on earth does that justify it?

I stand by it - if the product I bought is advertised as PNP, and yet, after moving it from one car to another - once a week for several months, and if breaks (after I am careful) - I don't have a right to complain about that?
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Exactly a whopping $20 and the problem is solved. Sure it takes some effort and for some that do not feel they are capable of doing it would need to have it done. To think that all this is going to be on the box is what is silly in my opinion.

The thing about SIRIUS and XM they advertise that they have FM Trans and they do. For some they work okay for others they do not, depending on now many of the frequencies are used in your area. None the less the real deal is that FM Trans don't provide the best level of SQ. If these units were total junk and the FM Trans didn't work at all even hooking us the FM Relay or FM Connector would not work.

However, even with all this said, we now see that SIRIUS is being more proactive as indicated by the newly released InV and Stiletto both include the additionally needed parts to provide better FM Transmission.

There are also a select few that have one bad experience and suddenly everything is junk and SIRIUS is terrible regardless if that was no one else's experience or not. I am pissed so I am just going to speak in general terms as if I speak for everyone. Generally if they just call back or make a little more effort they find a solution.
I've had three radios in two years - and two broke within one year - personally, I don't think that is something to praise. That doesn't sound like an example of me jumping the gun because of one bad experience. I may complain about their products, but I guess I'm the idiot that keeps buying the products because of the programming. I contend that the company could bury XM and other forms of entertainment, if they would institute better customer service, and take a little time testing their products before producing them on a larger scale.

I think most problems that surface with these radios, should have been foreseen - best example - the audio, antenna, and power jacks wearing out after normal use - now they are using a universal dock concept - they are on the right track.

But I'm not going to stop complaining about things that could be better. I spent a total of an hour on hold last week with customer service, and on two out of three calls - the incompetent representative hung up on me while trying to place me on hold. That is just unacceptable. And it wasn't the first time.

Now if a company can't employ telephone operators that don't know anything about their products, and can't operate their own phones - then there is definitely some room for improvement. About a month ago, there were problems with reception in LA - and I figured it was repeaters, and it took my three calls and three emails, before someone finally confirmed that they were doing simple repeater maintenance in LA for about a week. Now why the heck couldn't they just email or post something about that rather than having their customer service reps trying to send a new signal to my radio even though I'm trying to explain to them that it is "acquiring signal".

Can you at least admit that there is PLENTY of room for improvement?
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You and several others have made points along the lines of - many companies advertise products that aren't completely true - how on earth does that justify it?

I stand by it - if the product I bought is advertised as PNP, and yet, after moving it from one car to another - once a week for several months, and if breaks (after I am careful) - I don't have a right to complain about that?
Easily, because that is the nature of advertising these days. You get just enough information to entice you, but you often times don't find out everything until you get it. I can't tell you how many products that has happened to me with. So it is a very, very legit comparison. To expect that Sat Radio is going to miraculously be better than everyone else is called having expectations that are out of line with reality. They aren't going to put on the box that you must climb on your roof to put the home antenna there to get a signal. They aren't going to tell you that you may have to buy additional parts to get peak FM Transmission. To say this is false advertising is just nonsense. If it were, someone would have already sued them. Now do I wish the sat radio industry was better than other industries in providing all the information up front. Sure I do, is that going to happen? No it's not.

So, you bought a product and you used it for several months and then it broke? Does it not have a warranty? I thought all these tuners came with a 1 year warranty? Sometimes it doesn't matter how careful you are things break. Connectors on these units will break, this is why folks buy extended warranties and such. But to say because of your one experience to suddenly come to the conclusion that all these tuners or even just all the ones like you bought are all junk, (and I know you didn't absolutely say this, but you certainly don't appear to disagree). Your expectations would be that it should last much longer. You know what for most folks it probably will last much longer. Also you assume because it says it is a plug in play that it should mean you ought to be able to plug it and unplug it forever without failure? What is the magic number there before it's okay for it to fail? One year? Two years? What about all those folks that do get 2 years, theirs was really junk too, they just didn't know it? You probably put more wear and tear on that unit that most and I am sure these devices were tested with average use. But failures do happen even on stuff that is brand spanking new out of the box. (Perhaps I am beating a dead horse here, but that is just the way I see it.) Way too much generalizing.

I had 3 Motorola RazR V3 before I finally got a good one, so does that mean they are all junk. I know several other people that have had problems with them too. Yet I know others that have never had a single problem.

I don't think the issue is complaining. Heck having any item break will get a complaint. I personally have no problem with folks complaining. Many that had the S50 had very, very legit reasons to complain. But I just feel that complaining should be based on reasonable expectations. Was it reasonable to think your tuner would last longer.. probably so. But you still have the option of using the warranty, so its not like you will just totally lose what you've spent on it.

By the way there is ALWAYS room for improvement... ALWAYS!!! We did a Blog report on the pathetic state of SIRIUS customer service. I agree with you, they should be able to offer better support for the products they sell. I don't think I've seen anyone argue otherwise in this thread. You are more than welcome to continue to complain, but aren't you really just singing to the choir here? We know this, it is SIRIUS that doesn't appear to be in reality on that question.
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I really gotta know how many of the people on this forum are Sirius employees! LOL

Once again - I don't think I ever used the term "false advertising" however, you can't justify bad business practices by pointing out other company's bad business practices.

I guess I'm just idealistic and naive to hope that companies won't purposely try to mislead you - but I guess that is the nature of advertising.
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I really gotta know how many of the people on this forum are Sirius employees! LOL

Once again - I don't think I ever used the term "false advertising" however, you can't justify bad business practices by pointing out other company's bad business practices.

I guess I'm just idealistic and naive to hope that companies won't purposely try to mislead you - but I guess that is the nature of advertising
Well I think that is a nice way of just saying those you disagree with couldn't possibly do so unless they were SIRIUS employees.

To my knowledge SIRIUS employees are prohibited from participating on this forum. So the answer to your question is NONE!

I agree that because one business does something doesn't necessarily make it right for another to do it. But that isn't the point. The point is that providing just enough information without spelling it out is a common business practice.

To say that because you felt mislead means everyone does or is once again a generalization that is just not true for everyone. Had you said I felt mislead, then that may have been more accetable. But where you really mislead or did you just have a bad piece of equipment that failed?
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To say you are mislead can also mean you didn't understand. Please don't try to justify ignorance for being mislead. That's how you get labels on rat poison saying DO NOT EAT.
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To say you are mislead can also mean you didn't understand. Please don't try to justify ignorance for being mislead. That's how you get labels on rat poison saying DO NOT EAT.
What the heck do you know? Just because someone, who apparently felt mislead, comes out and voices that concern (which I assume was one of the purposes of this forum) you and several others jump down their throat and try to make them look stupid.

That really encourages people to ask a lot of questions and actively participate in the discussion - because there a few people here with absolutely nothing better to do than attempt to contradict any criticism about Sirius whatsoever.

Gee, you've really impressed us all with your superior knowledge, and realistic (yet pessimistic) view of business practices, while the rest of us have the audacity to question how Sirius is conducting itself. Obviously, many of us aren't as technologically savvy as you, but maybe that's because we're too busy participating in life.

How productive.

Gee Dab, you've really cultivated a great environment for discussion here. Keep up the good work.
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Well I think that is a nice way of just saying those you disagree with couldn't possibly do so unless they were SIRIUS employees.

To my knowledge SIRIUS employees are prohibited from participating on this forum. So the answer to your question is NONE!
In case you didn't see it, I put a LOL at the end of my statement - that was my attempt o spark your nonexistent sense of humor, or my attempt to tone down the discussion a bit, and bring some humor into the arena.

Silly me.

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"Obviously, many of us aren't as technologically savvy as you, but maybe that's because we're too busy participating in life."

Something like that.....oh wait I work 70hr, 7day weeks for the past 100000years (or so).

What I DO know is that peoples is lazy and will give up after 8seconds yet will continue to bitch for days on end with the end result being a $5 part.
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