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Old 10-25-2005, 07:03 PM   #136
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I've had the "music at the top of the mountain" for about two years now, and it isn't as good as Sirius.

If XM is the "top of the mountain", then Sirius is the heavens above!
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Old 10-25-2005, 08:49 PM   #137
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Yes, Ren-man, I got the feeling that you don’t approve of folk music. But is it also safe to assume that the overwhelming repeates on all of the Sirius music channels is Sirius’s way of appeasing you, their most protective customer? Since you like it so much, they’re simply giving you more of what you want! :P


Anyway, for the fans of the former Folktown, it's worth their time to try the XM 3-day online trial. Then they can decide for themselves which service is better.

Any Mac OSX users wanting a way to try the XM 3-day trial can use this widget to do so.

Anyone (Folktowners or otherwise) looking for a decent, full XM setup at a discount:
Audiovox XR9 with car-kit can be found online for $50 (search for “XCS9”). The XR9 sold at www.myradiostore.com comes with the car kit even though it says that one is required (I called and asked). Use XM’s $50 rebate too and then you’re talking deep discount. Get the home-kit for it at Best Buy for $30. If you’d like a red display rather than a blue one, Sprawl-mart’s own version (Jensen, made by Audiovox) called the JXR9 has it, and can be bought with car-kit for $70 (although the rebate can’t be applied to it).
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Old 10-25-2005, 09:56 PM   #138
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Yes, Ren-man, I got the feeling that you don’t approve of folk music. But is it also safe to assume that the overwhelming repeates on all of the Sirius music channels is Sirius’s way of appeasing you, their most protective customer? Since you like it so much, they’re simply giving you more of what you want!
There you go, imagining things again.

Actually I collect folk music recordings, many of them original issues on vinyl.

The Highwaymen, the Brothers Four, Woody Guthrie, the Kingston Trio, the Weavers, the New Christy Minstrels, the Seekers, Bob Dylan, Buffy Saint-Marie, Judy Collins, Joni Mitchell, Joan Baez etc. etc.

I subscribe to XM, and if you think their folk channel is "hot stuff", then you obviously don't know much about the genre.

Their program director is a rank amateur, like yourself.
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Old 10-26-2005, 12:54 AM   #139
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The Highwaymen, the Brothers Four, Woody Guthrie, the Kingston Trio, the Weavers, the New Christy Minstrels, the Seekers, Bob Dylan, Buffy Saint-Marie, Joan Collins, Joni Mitchell, Joan Baez etc. etc.

I subscribe to XM, and if you think their folk channel is "hot stuff", then you obviously don't know much about the genre.

Their program director is a rank amateur, like yourself.
Joan Collins? Yes, I haven’t heard any of her music. Whether that means I wouldn't be a decent folk music program director or not, matters not to me. Everyone has opinions. Mine is that Sirius has the problems of (1) Lack of variety in their playlists, (2) Lack of diversity in their genres/channels, and (3) Too many repeated songs. I don't care if you think otherwise. I won’t be renewing my subscription if they don’t fix these oversights.


I'm sure my fellow former fans of Folktown have their own preferences and opinions too. So I invite them to judge XM’s channels for themselves. Click here to signup for the 3-day online free trial.
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Old 10-26-2005, 01:18 AM   #140
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I won’t be renewing my subscription if they don’t fix these oversights.
Don't let the door hit ya on the way out!

You'll be missed! NOT!
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:09 PM   #141
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When Sirius cancelled Folktown I gave the new Coffehouse station a try. To say I was disappointed is an understatement. I wrote to Sirius and received the same response others did in posts above. I was a year long subscriber to Sirius with two radios. I have since cancelled the Sirius service and signed up with XM. XM stations The Loft, XM Cafe, and The Village are unlike anything you will find on Sirius. If anyone at Sirius is reading this message board please reinstate Folktown as a channel. With the current programming there are too many rock channels that all sound the same. I would like to be with Sirius for some the talk programs but the music is why I switched.
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Old 10-28-2005, 02:53 PM   #142
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When Sirius cancelled Folktown I gave the new Coffehouse station a try. To say I was disappointed is an understatement. I wrote to Sirius and received the same response others did in posts above. I was a year long subscriber to Sirius with two radios. I have since cancelled the Sirius service and signed up with XM. XM stations The Loft, XM Cafe, and The Village are unlike anything you will find on Sirius. If anyone at Sirius is reading this message board please reinstate Folktown as a channel. With the current programming there are too many rock channels that all sound the same. I would like to be with Sirius for some the talk programs but the music is why I switched.
I too feel the loss of Folktown too, but I honestly believe that it, or something like it will be back some day. Maybe Sirius has growing pains, but they will see the light eventually.

XM certainly does a nice job of it though, and their X Country channel is a nice mix of new folk and alt country. I now have both services and I'm sure I always will. If Sirius hadn't canceled Folktown, I never would have discovered how good XM had gotten.
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Old 10-30-2005, 12:31 PM   #143
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Add me to those who were very disappointed over the loss of Folktown. Actually, that's one of the prime reasons I got Sirius - the presence of a folk channel. One week after I got the hardware AND a lifetime subscription - poof! - good bye Folktown.

Chalk me down as rather perturbed.
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Old 11-01-2005, 08:06 PM   #144
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Add me to those who were very disappointed over the loss of Folktown. Actually, that's one of the prime reasons I got Sirius - the presence of a folk channel. One week after I got the hardware AND a lifetime subscription - poof! - good bye Folktown.
If you complain loud enough I would hope you can get a refund of your lifetime sub. After all, when you signed on, they already knew that Folktown was going away, yet you were (I presume) not told of that. If the promotioal material in the store still showed Folktown as being available, you have, in my opinion, a good basis for a complaint with your state's consumer protection bureau, or even for a lawsuit.
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Old 11-01-2005, 10:14 PM   #145
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If the promotioal material in the store still showed Folktown as being available, you have, in my opinion, a good basis for a complaint with you state's consumer protection bureau, or even for a lawsuit.
Dream on.
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Old 11-19-2005, 01:47 PM   #146
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Ok, so I am an old guy who can remember the early days of MTV when they actually played music (the M did stand for music after all). They played some new music that you couldn't hear on the radio (especially on radio in smaller markets like where I live). It was new and exciting. Slowly they went away from music and moved towards original content, they created their own shows that had nothing to do with music.

Is this where Sirius is going?

By bringing Martha and Howard on with their own channels, I think that it is. I think that they are slowly moving away from music, just like MTV did. Eliminating Folktown was just one step in the direction. Another example is the channels that are playing all one artist. Let's face it; they are just glorified info-commercials. Maybe these are the types of things that Sirius has to do to be a viable business? Maybe music alone can't do it?

I miss the old MTV. I miss Folktown.
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Old 11-25-2005, 03:04 PM   #147
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It is ashame that Folktown did not make their cut. I liked to listen to it from time to time. I wonder how many subscribers listened to it on a regular basis. Is Sirius maxed out on the number of channels that they can have?
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Old 11-25-2005, 03:45 PM   #148
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I think it's just a matter of what they consider to be their priorities, which at the present time seem to be giving the Howard Stern fans something else to listen to for the rest of the day. Their are plenty of rock and pop channels that are largely duplicative of one another, so they have the bandwidth if their priorities were different.

In the meantime, be sure to remind the people at Sirius that you still wish they would bring back a folk music channel, don't let them think we are content with their current offerings.
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I think it's just a matter of what they consider to be their priorities, which at the present time seem to be giving the Howard Stern fans something else to listen to for the rest of the day. Their are plenty of rock and pop channels that are largely duplicative of one another, so they have the bandwidth if their priorities were different.

In the meantime, be sure to remind the people at Sirius that you still wish they would bring back a folk music channel, don't let them think we are content with their current offerings.
I agree, we can't say, write or complain enough. Keep those that care aware that Sirius has made a huge blunder dropping acoustic music from it's format.
After the Howard dust settles (or he get's hit by a truck) Sirius will realize that all their eggs are in one basket. DUMB DUMB DUMB. I trust they WILL come around before everyone realizes XM has all the diversity. Just a matter of time, but keep those cards, calls and emails coming to Sirius.
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Old 01-06-2006, 01:42 AM   #150
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I had mixed feelings about the demise of Folktown. While I liked having a folk channel, they were all over the board without a clear identity. I can understand why they weren't more successful. I'd like to see a traditional and roots music station that is not as pop oriented as folktown was. I'd like to see a station that could go from Zydeco to Celtic to acoustic blues and feature some of the less commercial, but more interesting folk artists from the sixties to the present (Dave Van Ronk, Utah Phillips, Taj Mahal, Nancy Griffith, Greg Brown and even Ewan MacColl, Leadbelly or the Holy Modal Rounders). XM's The Village plays some of this but they lack soulfulness and mix in a lot of mediocre sixties frat folk groups like the Kingston Trio, the Limeliters etc. Surely Sirius can do better.
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