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Old 10-01-2005, 05:54 AM   #91
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Yeah Howie and President Bush are big buds
Yeah, really.

Stern has spoken out against Bush and Christians on numerous occasions.

Sirius has OutQ, satellite radio's only gay/lesbian channel. Most homos aren't real fond of Bush and Christians, either.

Sirius has Eminem, another not known to be terribly fond of Bush and Christians.

Some people around here need to quit smoking crack.
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Old 10-01-2005, 10:06 AM   #92
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Copied below is the letter I sent to the heads of Sirius programming yesterday:

Gentlemen:

I spend over 10 hours a day listening to Sirius at work and in my car. I love the additions of Spa 73, and Revolution 67, and have added them to my normal rotation of the BBC World Service and other outstanding Sirius music.

I would like to express my dismay, however, at the removal of Folktown from the Sirius lineup. The music mix on it's supposed replacement "Coffeehouse" is light AC, standards, and jazz, with very little, if any, of the folk music that was previously heard on channel 38. While it was not my main reason for subscribing to Sirius 2 years ago, Folktown had become my favorite station during the last 6 months.

I have bought 2 receivers, and told hundreds of my friends about the great things Sirius have done in the past. Your decision to remove an
entire genre of music from the lineup makes me reluctantly consider subscribe to XM and possibly cancel my subscription to Sirius. Please reconsider the decision to drop Folktown. Please explain why of all the rock and rap channels that are duplicates of each other why a station in a unique format like Folktown was the one be deleted.


I received an automated response to a similar letter I sent yesterday to your programming department. I look forward to a thoughtful reply from you regarding when Folktown will be returned to the otherwise outstanding Sirius lineup.


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Old 10-01-2005, 12:49 PM   #93
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So, I went this morning (Saturday) to listen to The Kennedys on Disorder 24. At 10 AM (Eastern), as scheduled, they came on with their show, starting out by saying “we will be bringing you the usual mix on music, poetry, and politics”. I then had to be away from the radio for about a half an hour, and when I came back The Kennedys were gone, instead they were airing a Celtic program from Horizons 99.

Does anyone know what happened? I know it could have been a technical glitch, but my gut feeling is it had to do with the word “politics” in the opening comment.
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Old 10-01-2005, 01:37 PM   #94
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I am quite bummed that Folktown was taken off the air as I listened to both it and Disorder most of the time. The Coffee House channel is nothing more than slightly updated Muzak and just doesn't cut it in my book. Thus, I sent a snail mail off to the VP of programming this week.

I am thinking I will give Sirius another month or two and then seriously consider trying out XM for their folk music.

Has anyone tried out XM for folk and if so, what do they think?
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Old 10-01-2005, 03:25 PM   #95
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Has anyone tried out XM for folk and if so, what do they think?
You can get a free three day online trial at http://www.xmradio.com. If you have more than one e-mail address, you can presumably get another 3 days for each address.
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Old 10-03-2005, 03:57 AM   #96
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I am quite bummed that Folktown was taken off the air as I listened to both it and Disorder most of the time. The Coffee House channel is nothing more than slightly updated Muzak and just doesn't cut it in my book. Thus, I sent a snail mail off to the VP of programming this week.

I am thinking I will give Sirius another month or two and then seriously consider trying out XM for their folk music.

Has anyone tried out XM for folk and if so, what do they think?

I had XM a while back, and found their folk channel to be mostly "old school." I sent various e-mails requesting newer music. They sent back an e-mail stating that when they played the newer stuff, the "old" folkies complained. Obviously, both SIRIUS and XM need multiple folk stations to represent the genre...gee they do it for rock music. Hoping that SIRIUS will expand their diversity, and keep the stations unique...that is what got me into satellite radio.
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Old 10-03-2005, 06:11 AM   #97
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Best thing is to try it and judge for yourself. I haven’t been able to get the 3-day online trial to work on my browsers, but after trying it at Circuit City many different times within the past six months, the XM Folk channel seemed more eclectic to me than Folktown. I’ve heared several celtic folk songs on the XM channel at least, while Folktown is usually fairly sparse when it comes to ethnic folk. I had a similar favorable opinion of their World channel too, as compared to Horizons. I really liked all their channels a lot actually (I prefer Folk, World, early Jazz, Funk, and eclectic stuff in general). It was the hardware that’s offered for the service that left a lot to be desired. I’m waiting for either the upcoming Audiovox Xpress, or the next generation of the XM2go (Myfi, Airware, etc).
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Old 10-03-2005, 11:54 PM   #98
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608zz - good point...And at least XM DOES have a Folk channel. If the SIRIUS folkies jump ship and start making their song requests known, who knows, maybe XM will expand their coverage of Folk music. I really hope SIRIUS returns to a folk channel, I prefer it over the other service in general, I just did't realize how important FOLKTOWN was to my subscription (that song..."don't know what you got, till it's gone").
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Old 10-04-2005, 11:36 AM   #99
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Default Kennedy's, Celtic Crush, and Dylan Radio Hour on Disorder 24

Acording to the Sirius web site for Disorder 24:

The Dharma Cafe
Saturdays 7 am - 10 am ET
Rebroadcast Sundays 11 am - 2 pm ET

Celtic Crush Joins the Disorder
Saturdays 10 am - 1 pm ET
Rebroadcast: Tuesdays 10 pm - 1 am ET
While the Rolling Stones has taken over SIRIUS // Ch. 98 and the World Music channel is under construction, we've given our pal Larry Kirwan and Celtic Crush a temporary home. Larry has promised to bring along his private record collection for this 3-hour soulful mix of traditional and contemporary music from the Celtic countries and England.

The Bob Dylan Radio Hour
Sundays 10 am & 7 pm ET
Rebroadcast Thursdays 5 pm ET

hope this means the problem with the Kennedy's was technical, not political.

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Old 10-04-2005, 01:59 PM   #100
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According to an e-mail I received from The Kennedys, the show will be on at the advertised time of 10 AM to 1 PM on Saturdays beginning next month. I did air on Sunday as scheduled.

I think in the end the problem was one of lack of communications. They advertised one time, and then at the last minute changed it to a different time, with inadequate notice to the listeners. Kinda like network TV!
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Old 10-04-2005, 06:34 PM   #101
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[According to an e-mail I received from The Kennedys, the show will be on at the advertised time of 10 AM to 1 PM on Saturdays beginning next month. I did air on Sunday as scheduled. ]

Does this mean that they won't be on in Oct? If so, Sirius' webpage should reflect that (I know, I know)!

Thanks for the update.

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Old 10-04-2005, 07:19 PM   #102
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[According to an e-mail I received from The Kennedys, the show will be on at the advertised time of 10 AM to 1 PM on Saturdays beginning next month. I did air on Sunday as scheduled. ]

Does this mean that they won't be on in Oct? If so, Sirius' webpage should reflect that (I know, I know)!

Thanks for the update.

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No, it means for Oct it will be on 7-10 AM Sat, after Oct it will be 10 AM to 1 PM on Sat. It is, and will continue to be, 11 AM to 2 PM on Sunday.
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Old 10-05-2005, 09:33 AM   #103
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Default My note to Sirius about Folktown going away

In the Coffehouse thread, someone posted that writing to the VP of programming would help. I'm not sure, but it's worth a shot. Here's what I sent them a few days before the channel went away:

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Dear Mr. Clark,

Reading the backstage message board, I discovered that you've axed Folktown, and are suggesting a DJ-less channel "Coffeehouse" to those who were listeners. This is rather disappointing.

I bought into Sirius a little over a year ago after trying out XM. There were several things that attracted me to Sirius, but the biggest was the format and personalities on Folktown and Disorder. I listen to Folktown eight or more hours a day.

Because of Folktown, I've gotten back into the Folk scene, been going to concerts, attended the Falcon Ridge Folk Festival and have bought lots of new CDs of artists I discovered on Folktown. For example, if it weren't for Meg's interview with Chip Taylor and Carrie Rodriguez on Folktown, I would never have known about these amazing artists, let alone seeing them in concert. The same is true for Cheryl Wheeler, Eddie from Ohio, Gandalf Murphy and many others.

In the last year I also bought stock in Sirius, because I believed it to have such superior programming to XM. I've been pleased overall with the stock performance. I understand that rearrangements in channels will always be needed at times, but as a stockholder, I'm concerned that the changes you're initiating will generate churn. Certainly my wife and I will likely re-evaluate our listening choices. If after the changes we don't find the music we like, I guess we'll be looking at XM and MP3 sources as possible replacements.

Finally, I'd like you to know that the last year, listening to Buddy Cage, Paul Cavalconte, Nick Hill, Meg Griffin, Emily Anton, Michael Tearson, Meg Griffin and Pete and Maura Kennedy as they both play and discuss this genre of music have been uplifting in a difficult time. XM's folk channel sounds like it's programmed by a computer. Folktown is programmed by people who care about the music. It's this hands-on programming and direct connection to the music that made me an evangelist for both Sirius and Folktown, and sadly it appears to be what you're working to eliminate.

I hope you'll cue up Ronny Elliott's song, "I don't hear Freedom Ring Anymore" as the last song as you pull the channel off the air.

Daniel Senie
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Keep in mind I sent this before I'd heard the Coffeehouse channel. Listening to the new channel only reaffirmed my concerns.

Last weekend I picked up an XM receiver, and am again listening to folk. I liked the mix better on Folktown than what XM plays and will always miss it. It showed the promise of satellite radio at its best.
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Old 10-05-2005, 10:24 AM   #104
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I didn't put in that last post the reply I got from Sirius.

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Dear Daniel,


Thank you for taking the time to write and for being a SIRIUS
shareholder. Your feedback is extremely important to us.


I am sorry that you are disappointed because Folktown will no longer on
SIRIUS as of September 29th. However, I am happy to tell you that much
of the folk music that you love will continue to be played on The Coffee
House. Although there will be no DJs on the new channel, I can assure
you that like all of our SIRIUS music channels, the songs will be chosen
by expert music programmers that care about and understand this genre.
I look forward to your feedback after The Coffee House launches.


I appreciate your input and I hope that you will continue to be a SIRIUS
subscriber.


Respectfully,
Darrin Smith
Director, Programming Operations
So, the anonymous "expert music programmers" have a pretty different view of "this genre" it seems.
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I hope you wrote him back to tell him what he's full of!
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