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Old 01-08-2007, 11:38 AM   #1
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I wish Sirius had their own version of XM's X Country. I know we used to have "The Border" a few years back but a station that fit somewhere between what's on Disorder and Outlaw Country would be nice.

I feel that artists such as Neko Case, The Flatlanders, Robert Earl Keen, Caitlin Cary, The Jayhawks, Wilco, Richmond Fontaine, Ryan Adams, and Kathleen Edwards, etc., don't have a home station.

Also, it seems that Outlaw Country and Roadhouse overlap each other. Why have both when they essentially play a lot of the same music?

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Old 01-08-2007, 12:47 PM   #2
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Agree 100% with everything you say. I don't understand how Sirius can't have an Alt-country station -- Outlaw Country, while a good channel, just doesn't fill that niche.
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Old 01-12-2007, 11:21 PM   #3
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I listened to the YAlternative program on New Country tonight. It was okay, but not nearly as alternative as I was expecting it to be. Perhaps given some time they'll tweak it. I also don't feel a one hour show is enough, this should be a 2 or 3 hour show minimum.
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Old 01-15-2007, 12:04 PM   #4
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i listened to the alt show and was unimpressed. it sounded if that aussie chick on CMT programmed it. dull stuff. only a couple of songs struck me as decent.
i wish they'd talk to No Depression or Buddy Miller to program the show. hell, i have a better selection than that show.
i'm all for a americana channel-just need to cut out the lame shit.
seems that there's a lot of crossover in the rock channels, vinyl, rewind and the vault are basically the same channel with small variance.
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Yes, Sirius badly needs a true Americana/Alt-Country channel. "The Border" was a decent channel and should not have been cut. I've never liked "Outlaw Country" or never really understood the focus or purpose of that channel. Personally, I really don't like either of the Little Steven programmed channels ("Underground Garage" or "Outlaw Country"). They both seem like hodge podge messes of unrelated, unfocused stuff to me. They would fit much better with XM's eclectic, overly deep style of programming than with Sirius. I wish Sirius would end their relationship with Little Steven and dump these two channels for two in-house regularly programmed Sirius formats (a return of a channel like "the Border" for Americana/alt-country, and another Sirius rock programmed channel). I know I would enjoy them much more.
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I agree 1000%

While I do like most of the Outlaw Country Stuff, I really miss hearing
some of my favorite bands like Uncle Tupelo, Jayhawks, Golden Smog
Son Volt, Wilco etc. Perhaps Roadhouse and Outlaw could merge to make room ? Or get rid of one those horrible Dance/RB stations that I would guess
no one listens too
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Sadly, the best part about Sirius' country programming these days is that, unlike XM, they don't have commercials on ANY of the streams.
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Sadly, the best part about Sirius' country programming these days is that, unlike XM, they don't have commercials on ANY of the streams.
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Lame name, but great program Friday night's at 11. This is the first time I have listened, but it is the format Sirius is lacking. I really hope this is a decent draw and will spur an Alt-Country channel. I love Outlaw Country too but it ain't the same.
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nevermind...either the Y'alternative program was only an hour long, or they define Sugarland as alternative. Not a good sign.
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While I do like most of the Outlaw Country Stuff, I really miss hearing some of my favorite bands like Uncle Tupelo, Jayhawks, Golden Smog Son Volt, Wilco etc. Perhaps Roadhouse and Outlaw could merge to make room ? Or get rid of one those horrible Dance/RB stations that I would guess no one listens too
Sirius has played at least five different Jayhawks songs just since Monday.
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seems that there's a lot of crossover in the rock channels, vinyl, rewind and the vault are basically the same channel with small variance.
That's not true at all.
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I feel that artists such as Neko Case, The Flatlanders, Robert Earl Keen, Caitlin Cary, The Jayhawks, Wilco, Richmond Fontaine, Ryan Adams, and Kathleen Edwards, etc., don't have a home station.

Also, it seems that Outlaw Country and Roadhouse overlap each other. Why have both when they essentially play a lot of the same music?
I disagree with these statements. I listen to Outlaw Country everyday and love it . I have heard many of the artists you listed quite frequently on Outlaw Country plus some others you haven't listed.

Outlaw Country and Roadhouse do not play "essentially the same music." Roadhouse plays mainstream classic country. Outlaw County plays some classic country mixed with southern rock. Two very different sounding channels. Outlaw Country isn't for everyone. If Trisha Yearwood and Kenny Chesney is more to your liking, try Prime Country or old-fashioned radio. Outlaw Country's niche is rock and country from blues to funky.

Outlaw Country isn't supposed to be all alt.country but that doesn't mean they don't play it. They actually play quite a bit of it. Here is the latest score on Outlaw Country (Channel 63):

Son Volt Radio: The Search
Tues 3/6 8:00 pm ET

Son Volt frontman Jay Farrar hosts an exclusive one-hour special introducing songs from the band’s new album The Search, along with some hand-picked selections direct from his own collection. It’s an unforgettable road trip with an alt.country icon, only in Outlaw Country.

Rebroadcast: Thurs., March 8th @ 11 am ET; Sat., March 10th @ 12 am ET; Sun., March 11th @ 9 am ET.
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Old 02-18-2007, 05:16 PM   #14
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Ah this topic seems to come up on a regular basis. I've been saying many of the same things since the untimely demise of The Border. Outlaw Country, while it has improved since it's early days (when Moby Grape was considered country) it's still a bit of a joke to me as they seem to glorify all of the worst stereotypes of country music. The drinkin', fightin', truck drivin' songs just get on my nerves before long.
Since this topic DOES come up on a regular basis, perhaps Sirius will actually listen to their subscribers and give them what they really want not what Sirius thinks they want.
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Look, all you arrogant, nose-in-the-air snobs pining for your oh-so-precious exclusive "alt country" channel, you need to get a grip. "Alt country" doesn't exist. How you can listen to Neko Case, Uncle Tupelo, XCR and Elizabeth Cook songs and think they don't belong on a station with beer drinking truck driving redneck songs is beyond me. This is all pretty twangy sh**, folks, no matter how much you say "I hate country music but love Lucinda Williams!", it doesn't make it anymore freakish or disingenuous.

Outlaw Country is the perfect station for the demographic they are going after. Also, whoever said Roadhouse and Outlaw Country have a large overlap is WAAAAY off. There really is hardly any. Roadhouse is for the Nashville FM pop from the late 50s up through the mid 80s, and hardly any of that qualifies on Outlaw, although i'm sure a few artists better suited for Outlaw (Cash, Haggard, George Jones) get a few spins on the Roadhouse.

Look, I tuned into Outlaw Country to hear David Allan Coe, Johnny, Waylon, and Willie, and discovered a crapload of artists that snooty types call "alt country" but are essentially the same freakin genre. Texas music, truckin' music, "alt country", whatever. What is it exactly that y'all wanna hear more of? The playlist is loaded with alt-country acts as well as more traditional outlaw acts (can you say that???), southern rock, and "Texas" music.

Outlaw country is the greatest station i've ever listened to. I almost never hear anything I don't like and i've been exposed to so much great music I would have NEVER heard elsewhere (including your precious "alt country" artists).

Learn to enjoy the drinking, truck driving, prison-time-serving, south-of-the mason-dixon line music that alt country derives from.

X Country on XM is falling apart as we speak because alt country is too narrow a genre. It's really not even a "country" station anymore.

LONG LIVE OUTLAW COUNTRY.
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