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Old 11-29-2007, 11:46 AM   #1
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Does anyone here have an opinion?

I have had SIRIUS for about the last 3 or 4 years and have had multiple tuners OEM, and aftermarket.

I just recently got HD Radio in addition, and I admit after I was skeptical, but now having it I gotta say it's pretty cool. I can really see if as a competitor for SIRIUS and XM which should almost seal the approval of a merger.

Through the HD radio multicast feature each station in your area broadcasts up to two stations (Most do..) the second being a difference Genre of content and commercial free.

For example a local station KROQ (106.7) has a station called ROQ the 80s...

Anyone have thoughts or opinions?
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:31 PM   #2
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There's a discussion about that topic here:

http://www.siriusbackstage.com/forum...d.php?t=101716
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Old 12-02-2007, 05:07 PM   #3
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but heres the difference is that HDRadio Doesn't have the channel variety and NfL and Howard and Bubba and that satellite has more music channels.
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Old 12-02-2007, 05:33 PM   #4
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Eventually, HD radio will be as commerciallized as regular FM radio.
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Old 12-02-2007, 06:03 PM   #5
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HD radio is nice, but,

*not all radio markets have it,
*HD radio stations air commercials,
*HD radio stations must censor profanities since they're under FCC rules,
*the signal fades out after x-amount of miles
*and IBOC creates co-channel interference to adjoining frequencies

The only good things about HD radio are the increased channel selections on regular radio and the lack of subscription fees. Plus, the signal is still perfectly clear under bridges and trees.
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Old 12-02-2007, 07:56 PM   #6
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I can't wait to hear car dealers commercials in HD
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:17 AM   #7
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I would listen to HD about as often as FM which is almost never.
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Old 12-03-2007, 08:41 AM   #8
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as i said in the other thread, why bother with HD radio?
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:50 AM   #9
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Eventually, HD radio will be as commerciallized as regular FM radio.
EXACTLY!.....When i first heard of HD Radio i researched it and thought.....Hey thats pretty cool!?! So thats Radios response to Satellite? Then i found out that they wanted hundreds of dollars for just one unit!?! Then i thought.....Well thats not going to work out so well for Radio? What are they.....Stupid!?! Never the less its going to be nice when they start putting them in cars left and right!?!
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For me, explaining how everything works and gets installed in cars and homes is the hardest part to hip people to for satellite. The same thing applies for HD, having to spend a few hundred bucks for an add-on radio and then having it installed or doing it yourself is a lot of work. Having factory installed units will work towards getting more people familiar with HD, and satellite as well.
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Old 12-07-2007, 08:38 AM   #11
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I have an HD radio as well as XM/Sirius. FM is good, with the multicast stations, but this won't even touch SatRads content. I have two AM HD stations during the day and I can pick up a few Distant HD AM stations at night, like last night I was listening to KMOX 1120 AM getting a solid HD lock for quite a while,again though, nothing HD radio can offer will be better than XM or Sirius.
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I have a Dice-HD kit in my car along with Sirius Satellite Radio. I did have a PNP3 in my car, but couldn't stand the sound quality so I swapped it out with an OEM BMW/Alpine receiver.

I thought the sound quality issue was because of the PNP3, however after getting the oem receiver in their with a direct connection, the quality is no better. I used to have a Kenwood setup in my old car, and i thought it sounded a lot better. But now that I think about it, it might have just been perception at the time as I did not have an iPod in my car.

With all that being said, Sirius content is better, but HD and iPod sound sooo much better. I find myself hardly listening to Sirius anymore. This is a huge change for me as I used to be the biggest advocate. The sound quality is extremely muddy, lows are o.k. but the crisp highs can't be found anymore.

I tuned into HD Radio and apart from the commercials was blown away by the quality. Even better with the iPod. I think FCC and DOJ should let XM and Sirius merge and hopefully quality will get better. As podcasting takes off (all the shows I listen to on Sirius are podcasted now) Sirius definitely is facing competition on new fronts. I know my listening has gone way way down...
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Eventually, HD radio will be as commerciallized as regular FM radio.
And I'm afraid so will Sirius. Just look at how cable channels that used to be commercial free, are no longer.
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Old 12-23-2007, 06:17 AM   #14
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I just want to reiterate the comments on commercials--even if some channels are now commercial-free, it's only a matter of time before they have commercials. There's no binding contract with the consumer to prevent it. With Sirius, we pay a monthly fee to not have commercials, and if that changed, we'd leave in droves. HD radio may be commercial-free at the moment, but it's a bait-and-switch.
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Yeah once its more mainstream they will need to offset their costs on it once HD Radio is the main radio in each car. It may be commercial free now but it wont in a couple years just cause its free doesn't mean its good.

I can't wait till tuesday when I get my radio installed (getting it for XMAS!) and I don't have to hear 3 commericals for HD Radio on each stations break,

Thats and the radios are freaking expensive. They used to be alot more than they are now and my friend got one. My argument with him was I could get a good sirius deck for $50 and buy a lifetime subscription hear anything and everything UNCENSORED and still save some money compared to him.
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