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Old 10-06-2008, 08:09 AM   #16
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When I got the Lifetime package in 2005, it was for the complete service, not "Sirius Everything".
Back then, I received NHL, NBA and PRI programming -- now they want us to spend $150 to get those programs back!
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Old 10-06-2008, 08:31 AM   #17
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When you signed up for the lifetime subscription, it was for the complete SIRIUS service, and that is exactly what you, myself and all other lifetime subscribers are getting.

If SIRIUS were to add any more channels to THEIR lineup, YOU WILL get those channels (just like everyone else).

But XM is a separate brand (even though it is owned by SIRIUS), it is still a separate service. The lifetime subscription does not entitle you to get those channels since you were never signing up to receive XM channels to begin with.

The "Best of XM" lifetime add-on at $150 is a fair deal for those that are interested in those channels, and if SIRIUS were to add any more additional channels from the XM side to their "Best of XM" package, you will get those channels with the lifetime add-on.

You just want everything for nothing, pure and simple.
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Old 10-06-2008, 08:43 AM   #18
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Ok, so let's say that they decided to move Howard 100/101 under the XM brand and we lost him on the Sirius side -- would that be an acceptable deal?
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Old 10-06-2008, 08:50 AM   #19
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And if you check the SIRIUS channel line-up on the SIRIUS website, you will see all of these channels listed.
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And if you check the SIRIUS channel line-up on the SIRIUS website, you will see all of these channels listed.
...and a few years ago if you checked the xm site, you had the virus and playboy listed as well but people didn't get them automatically. they had to *gasp* PAY EXTRA to get those premium channels. best of xm is a premium package. you want them, pay extra. just because a channel is listed DOES NOT MEAN everyone is going to get it. how many people have the family plan? does a channel like raw dog or playboy not appear on the sirius site for them?
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Ok, so let's say that they decided to move Howard 100/101 under the XM brand and we lost him on the Sirius side -- would that be an acceptable deal?
i would trade howard for baseball in a second. their top draw for ours.
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I can appreciate the comments, and I don't want to belabor the point. However, it seems like Sirius basically moved the NBA from the regular tier to a "premium" tier.
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I can appreciate the comments, and I don't want to belabor the point. However, it seems like Sirius basically moved the NBA from the regular tier to a "premium" tier.

Sirius let NBA expire without renegotiating before the merger was final. XM picked it up. This would have happened merger or no merger. The only difference for an NBA fan is that they could still get it on their Sirius radio now if they get best of XM because of the merger.

Its pointless to argue this point. Sirius XM obviously feels it is not included in your original lifetime sub.
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Interesting conversation.

I think more importantly, how will the "sirius everything lifetime" as we are all now considered, be treated as the differences between the companies lessens.

I would think that short term, if a new channel launches, it'd be on both platforms... but of course thats using up double the bandwidth. I would also assume this kind of channel would be available to my lifetime subs.

I really can't see one side getting a talent or a channel and not the other. Case in point: the first simulcast channel, AC/DC Radio.

As a-la-carte radios that can address both the Sirius and XM spectrum, become more common place, I would wager that if the channel was chosen to sit on the Sirius side of the spectrum, a lifetime sub would get it, but if its on the XM side, then we wouldn't.
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I think more importantly, how will the "sirius everything lifetime" as we are all now considered, be treated as the differences between the companies lessens.
Music

Kid Kelly (SIRIUS) is named VP of Pop/Dance/Urban
Gregg Steele (SIRIUS) becomes the VP of Rock.
Trinity (XM) is appointed VP of Classical/Jazz/Latin
Jon Anthony (XM) is named VP of Country
Mitch Todd (SIRIUS) is appointed Senior Director of Music Production.

The music execs will all report directly to Senior VP Jon Zellner (SIRIUS).

Talk and Entertainment

Dave Gorab, VP/Original Talk (SIRIUS)
John McDermott, VP/Comedy and Entertainment (SIRIUS)
Frank Raphael, VP/News and Operations (SIRIUS)
Todd Stack, Sr. Director/Talk Production (SIRIUS)
Don "Wicky" Wicklin, Sr. Director/Partner Programming (XM)
Jason Schramm, Director/Programming Development, with Sr. Directors Kenny Curtis, Craig Schwalb and Maurice Tunick.

The Talk/Entertainment execs will report to Senior VP Jeremy Coleman (SIRIUS).

Sports Programming

Brian Hamilton, VP/Sports Programming (SIRIUS)
Doug Mortman, Director/Sports Programming Operations (SIRIUS)
Daniel Norwood, Director/NASCAR Radio (SIRIUS)
Nick Pavlatos, Director/NFL Radio (SIRIUS)
Matt Fishman, Director/College Sports Programming (XM)
Chuck Dickemann, Sr. Director/MLB Home Plate (XM)
Steve Torre, Director/Mad Dog Radio (SIRIUS)
Joey DiFazio, Director/Sports Imaging
Chris Castleberry, Director/PGA Radio (XM)

The Sports execs will report to Senior VP Steve Cohen (SIRIUS).
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Does / did XM offer lifetime subscriptions? How are the XM lifetime subscribers treated post merger?

What is puzzling to me is that "Best of Sirius" includes Howard, Nascar, & NFL, but "Best of XM" doesn't include MLB???

I don't see anything on Best of XM worth the additional $150.
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•Martha Stewart Living Radio
•Sirius NFL Radio*
•Sirius NASCAR Radio*
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•Oprah & Friends
•NHL Home Ice*
•The Virus
•Public Radio featuring Bob Edwards
•The PGA Tour Network
•College Sports and NBA
As the company continues post-merger and they start to produce radios that can receive both programming choices, it will be interesting to see how they treat us "lifetimers". At some point (lets say in ten years or more) when I still have my lifetime subscription, I imagine they will offer me a deal to switch to a new radio.
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Does / did XM offer lifetime subscriptions? How are the XM lifetime subscribers treated post merger?
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What is puzzling to me is that "Best of Sirius" includes Howard, Nascar, & NFL, but "Best of XM" doesn't include MLB???
Orbitcast asked someone from "SIRIUS Corporate" the following question:

Question: Why isn't the MLB on the Best of XM package for Sirius subscribers?

Answer: We would have liked to provided the MLB for our Sirius subscribers, but have not reached an agreement at this time. We continue to be hopeful that the MLB will be part of the package in the future.

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/qu...-siriusxm.html
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When they were pushing this merger and trying to get the subs abd the regulators to feel all warm and fuzzy about it, did they say something like "You won't need provider A to get football and provider B to get MLB, you'll be able to get it all no matter whose equipment you have."?

Unless my mind is playing tricks on me, I did hear that. If that's the case and there was some deception there, someone's ass should be set ablaze for lying to get the merger pushed through.
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Is the lifetime still avaibale?
Yes I have three now as of last month,I added two more.
Fm sucks that bad in NYC !
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if a new channel launches, it'd be on both platforms... but of course thats using up double the bandwidth.
doesn't sirius/xm pay royalties based on the number of times a song is played? if that's the case, then simulcasting would actually be good for them. instead of having both services having an unique channel for each genre playing the same songs at different times, which would count as more than one "play," having a uniformed simulcast lineup would drop the number plays (and thereby the royalties) because there is only 1 song being played for that genre -- just across both services.

take for example Sirius' The Pulse & XM's Flight 26. Both are Hot Adult Contemporary channels. If The Pulse was playing Dave Matthews while Flight 26 was playing The Goo Goo Dolls and then for the next song, Pulse did Goo Goo & Flight did Matthews, it would have counted as 4 plays total for Sirius XM -- 2 for Goo Goo, 2 for DMB. Under a simulcast, both channels would be playing DMB then Goo Goo, thereby technically cutting # of plays in half as DMB and Goo Goo were both played 1 time
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