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Old 01-09-2003, 08:30 PM   #31
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How has it been determined that Express was deleted so that Court TV could be added. When the also deleted REAL SIRIUS, which was basically partially Court TV already. I don't see the connection.
There is no connection. The Express is getting replaced by a new *music* channel. Real Sirius, which aired Court TV anyway, will simply be renamed Court TV Plus. Plain and simple...

I posted the entire revamp breakdown in the music forum for anyone interested.

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I agree with you Jeff and I did see your list. But I have read many post, not just hear but at ClubXM with people saying.. Express 44 was removed for Court TV Channel, which is simply not true.
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the only reason i haven't gotten into satradio yet is that i'm getting these two impressions: (1.) sirius is better. (.2) sirius is in some amount of financial trouble -- or is widely believed to be. can anyone illuminate?
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(.2) sirius is in some amount of financial trouble -- or is widely believed to be. can anyone illuminate?
Sirius is nearly debt free and recently obtained $200 million in additional capital. They are in a great financial position.

Go ahead and take the plunge.

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I recently subscribed to Sirius for two reasons: Sirius Left and Big Rock 23!

I considered XM and Sirius carefully for several months before coming to my decision. I liked the number of sports radio offerings on XM (Sporting News Radio, Fox Sports, etc.), but when Sirius Left was added to the lineup, I was quickly sold. It is a true alternative to mainstream political talk radio, which is dominated by right-wingers. I can live with just ESPN radio on Sirius.

I also liked XM's Dephi system, but when I found out Sirius was available to listen to on the Internet, that reason was eliminated.

Finally, when I found out Sirius got the financial backing worked out for five years, I was sold. I'm down with the dawg, and will be as long as they keep Sirius Left on the air.
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I'm down with the dawg, and will be as long as they keep Sirius Left on the air.
Welcome to the Sirius revolution!

I find it refreshing as well to have both conservative and progressive talk alternatives.

Keep us posted on how you like the service.

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I hate the "this channel brought to you by..." on non-commercial channels on XM. That blows bigtime.

I just wish Sirius would fix the signal problems and I'd have no reason to listen to XM anymore.


WHat signal problems does SIRIUS have???
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I went with XM because they were available in January 2002 but SI wasn't. Also, SI was promoting 50 music channels compared to XM's 70. By the launch date, that was increased to 60. A twenty channel difference was extremely significant; ten is much less significant. An old time shortwave listener, were I to switch it would be for the SI exclusive World Radio Net on channel 115.
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I have had Sirius for tree weeks, and here is my impressions. I still think some of the more powerful radio stations sound a hair better - but then again, I hate that static that creeps in every once in a while and the commercials are &$$%*.

I have made a few investments that I can no longer live without:

NFL Direct Ticket

TIVO on directv for $5 bucks a month

Verizon DSL for $35 bucks a month

Call intercept for $5 bucks a month (damm tellimarketers - ha ha ha)

Sirius for $13 bucks a month - I sould have bought the stock at $.40 - dang

Here is how I decided on Sirius versus XM. Without knowing anything about either company, I began reading reviews and posts on other message boards gathering information. I listened to XM's sample for a little bit, and I was just not that impressed - it might have been different if they had a live streaming cast to sample. Now, on the other hand, I was able to listen for a week (thanks to buggy) via the computer on Sirius and I got hooked.

Getting the free receiver sealed the deal when I purchased the Kenwood KDC X569. They way I looked at it, I can get a free year of programming with Sirius with same amount of money I would have payed for XM. I think if Alpine had the same deal with an XM receiver it might have been a little more difficult choice.

Finally, I heard my first lengthy (10+ seconds) promo for another channel on Sirius, and I must say, I did change the channel. I can't imagine listening to XM and getting 6 minutes or more commercials per hour. That would be really annoying for me.

I live in Metro Philadelphia, and the only time I ever had a drop out was when I passed a high powered cellular tower.

I understand everyone wants high value for their investment and support - that is natural (I being one of them). The people on these boards represent .3% of sirius's listening population.

I hear that Sirius is conducting a marketing and customer satisfaction survey which is a very proactive and good thing to do. All that tells me is that even though individuals have had their own trials and tribulations, Sirius is interested in maintaing the best possible service for the masses.

I have been following the stock of both XM and Sirius and find them to be excellent buys. Sirius and XMs best push will be in the upsell at the car dealership rather than the aftermarket products as you are just beginning to see. The idea being if you are already spending $20K plus, what is another few bucks. Unfortunately, the 2004 are just starting to roll off the line and I am not sure how well Sirius and XM are handeling the marketing and education of the various car dealers.

The model is sound for Sirius, ie. HBO - and HBO has finally ascended, it just took 20 years
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For the record XM has no where near 6 minutes of commercials per hour. And half its music channels are commercial free.

The channels that do have commercials its more like 1 per hour average. Maybe a bit more during peak drive times as one would expect. Off-peak there is virtually no commercials an ony music channels.
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While XM does not have 6 min of ad content per hour on any channel, and yes half are commercial free- the point being is that they CAN go up to 6 minutes, and have slowly been increasing the spot time. It is a simple case of commercial free vs limited commercials. Some people detest any commercial content, others dont mind short interruptions. Its all "different strokes for different folks". No one is right or wrong. The point is, we have a choice- isn't that nice?
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I think its highly possible that as XM gets more subscribers, you'll see the commercial play increase. XM has agreed that they will never have anymore than 6 minutes per hour. They aren't even close to that now, but I have noted several additional commercials lately.

I think the biggest issue that irritates me with some of their "NONCOMMERCIAL" channels is that they do this channel is sponsored by JC Penny or AT&T etc, then they give them a 15 to 30 second spill. To me that is a commercial, you can call it a sponsorship model all you want. Fortunately NOT all their noncommercial channels do this.

The kewl thing is that we do have a choice. I know many SIRIUS subscribers that picked SIRIUS simply for the fact that it has NO commercials PERIOD. Of course I have both because I feel they both have good programming to offer and I don't find either one of them perfect, nor do I find either one of them totally flawed as many folks seem to have a need to do. I can't lie about it though, because my preference over all is towards SIRIUS, which is no secret.
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It's possible, but since I've been with XM the past 6 months, I've personally noticed the commercial load to be less as of late. Usually, it's only 1-2 min per hour, and some channels will do no commercial hours.

But I will agree that no commercials altogether is better. The only question is do people want to pay more, and have 10 less music channels as a tradeoff for no commercials.
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But I will agree that no commercials altogether is better. The only question is do people want to pay more, and have 10 less music channels as a tradeoff for no commercials.
10 cents a day for no commercials.. I think folks will gladly do this, especially if XM ever gets to the point where they have the full 5 to 6 minutes of commercials per hour.

You know too what I find strange is that SIRIUS has 10 less music channels as you said, but you'd never know it. They cover the genre's VERY well for having less music channels and in fact in some of the genre's actually do a better job than XM and in others about equal.

I know its a crazy thing, but when I hear commercials on XM I just cringe, because honestly I just don't want to hear them period no matter how few there are. I don't think I am alone in that feeling either.
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You know too what I find strange is that SIRIUS has 10 less music channels as you said, but you'd never know it. They cover the genre's VERY well for having less music channels and in fact in some of the genre's actually do a better job than XM and in others about equal.
I notice. Take a couple examples:

Cinemagic: I still don't understand why Sirius did not come up with some kind of movie/soundtrack stream

U-POP: I've grown to love this channel on XM, and like the wider variety of Pop, including what's hot internationally.

MTV & VH1: Two other channels that have grown on me. I like the variety of genres featured, and sometime the specials like Behind the Music are great (like when you are on a long road trip, and tired of the tunes).

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