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Old 08-16-2005, 11:48 AM   #46
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But, I don't think Canadians should get to excited, some of the content will be censored and you'll be getting less channels than we (USA) are getting.
Fewer channels (like no San Francisco traffic reports, no Florida weather forecasts, no US politics discussions, etc.) at a lower price (C$12.95 versus US$12.95). Plus CBC-English and other streams.

More of what I want. Less of what I don't want. At a lower price. Sounds like a deal to me.
A maximum of 80 channels as opposed to 120+ (the traffic/weather channels only take up 8 channels), possibly no Howard Stern, plus imposed French content, for about the same price (it's C14.95, not C12.95)... ya... sounds like a real good deal.
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What a sea of rubbish all these infested with commercials US politics and "entertainment" AM quality channels are. I wouldn't pay a $1 for a 100 of those.
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What a sea of rubbish all these infested with commercials US politics and "entertainment" AM quality channels are. I wouldn't pay a $1 for a 100 of those.
There is no need for talk radio channels to be CD or even FM quality sound. There are commercials because the talk show hosts do need breaks from time to time. As for them being "infested with US politics" and "entertainment", well that's just a matter of opinion, I guess.

Having read a few of your posts, it really doesn't sound like you're buying into the whole satellite radio thing in general. I'm curious to know why you frequent a message board dedicated to satellite radio.

Please understand that I am not judging or attacking you, just wondering what your motivation is.
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Please understand that I am not judging or attacking you...
Yes, it's a little hard to understand that. You re "NOT" attacking me in a very subtle way
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There are commercials because the talk show hosts do need breaks from time to time.
There are commercials because it maximizes profits, not because of any need for talk show hosts to take breaks. CBC, BBC, NPR, etc. all seem to manage to have commercial free radio.
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There are commercials because it maximizes profits, not because of any need for talk show hosts to take breaks. CBC, BBC, NPR, etc. all seem to manage to have commercial free radio.
This is what's wrong with the modern North American educational systems! ALL THREE of the networks you mentioned are--get ready for this, Ernie--GOVERNMENT SUBSUDIZED.
Do you know what that means, Ernie? They don't need to sell commercial time because a government spends tax dollars (do YOU pay taxes, Ernie?) to keep them afloat so that they, more often than not, can put forth political ideas that are repugnant to the majority of people whose tax dollars fund those networks.
Actually, that may not be such a bad thing. Diversity and freedom may not be brothers, but I think they are close cousins.
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^^^ Thank you, Capn Ramius!
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They don't need to sell commercial time because a government spends tax dollars (do YOU pay taxes, Ernie?) to keep them afloat so that they, more often than not, can put forth political ideas that are repugnant to the majority of people whose tax dollars fund those networks.
Captain, you are definitely wrong here. The political ideas, if any, that government subsidized media propagate, are usually "repugnant" to the minority, because the majority is what has elected those governments in the first place.
Anyway, I don't think this should be of any concern to you. CBC and BBC are not American and don't use your precious tax dollars. They are in no way supposed to cater to your political views. That explains why you may hear "repugnant" from your standpoint ideas like gun control, government spending for helath care and culture, and criticism towards a certain trigger happy Texas cowboy who unfortunately is not just an internal US problem. Stick to Fox News, no "repugnant" ideas there As you said yourself, diversity is good.
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Take a little time when you're online and away from your radio to listen to
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It's a listener-supported Alberta network which has been on the air since 1929, and it has a HUGE library. I really hope that CKUA gets on Sirius, because it's unique, has eclectic programming and has excellent presenters.
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They don't need to sell commercial time because a government spends tax dollars (do YOU pay taxes, Ernie?) to keep them afloat so that they, more often than not, can put forth political ideas that are repugnant to the majority of people whose tax dollars fund those networks.
Captain, you are definitely wrong here. The political ideas, if any, that government subsidized media propagate, are usually "repugnant" to the minority, because the majority is what has elected those governments in the first place.
Anyway, I don't think this should be of any concern to you. CBC and BBC are not American and don't use your precious tax dollars. They are in no way supposed to cater to your political views. That explains why you may hear "repugnant" from your standpoint ideas like gun control, government spending for helath care and culture, and criticism towards a certain trigger happy Texas cowboy who unfortunately is not just an internal US problem. Stick to Fox News, no "repugnant" ideas there As you said yourself, diversity is good.
If you want to discuss politics, start a new thread. If you want to flame me for being concerned about CBC and BBC content, flame away, but I am really not concerned about either. I didn't say 'diversity is good', but I believe a homogeneous society (that means 'all alike', so don't get phobic) is probably not going to be a free society. As for what I consider repugnant, you don't know me. Please don't tell me what I find repugnant, and I will extend the same courtesy to you.
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I spent a few months in Ft. MacMurray a few years back. One of the things I enjoyed most about it (other than the beer) was the different perspective one got listening to the local stations.
I'll probably never be a steady C-station listener for the same reasons I can't see Canadians spending much time listening to US pundits and programming, but I will occaisionally enjoy dipping my oars in different waters.
Now if I can only find a way to get a keg of Rickards Red down here.
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This is what's wrong with the modern North American educational systems! ALL THREE of the networks you mentioned are--get ready for this, Ernie--GOVERNMENT SUBSUDIZED.
Do you know what that means, Ernie? They don't need to sell commercial time because a government spends tax dollars
Thank you for missing the point of my comment in order that I can clarify it.

The OP said "There are commercials because the talk show hosts do need breaks from time to time." I simply observed that wasn't the reason. I made no comment about the desirability of maximizing profits in a private company or of publicly supported broadcasting.

We now return to normalcy hopefully.
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There are commercials because the talk show hosts do need breaks from time to time.
There are commercials because it maximizes profits, not because of any need for talk show hosts to take breaks. CBC, BBC, NPR, etc. all seem to manage to have commercial free radio.
Or to minimize subscription cost... I guess it just depends on your perspective.
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A maximum of 80 channels as opposed to 120+ (the traffic/weather channels only take up 8 channels), possibly no Howard Stern, plus imposed French content, for about the same price (it's C14.95, not C12.95)... ya... sounds like a real good deal.
I don't have the license applications of Sirius and XM in front of me, so I can't give you reference pages. But my recollection is that Sirius told CRTC their monthly price would be C$12.95 while XM told CRTC their monthly price would be C$14.95.

"Imposed French content" is only imposed in the sense that CSS will produce and broadcast it. It is not imposed in the sense that you will be required to listen to it any more than you will be required listen to Catholic news in Spanish.
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There are commercials because the talk show hosts do need breaks from time to time.
There are commercials because it maximizes profits, not because of any need for talk show hosts to take breaks. CBC, BBC, NPR, etc. all seem to manage to have commercial free radio.
Or to minimize subscription cost... I guess it just depends on your perspective.
The goal of a business is to maximize profits. If reducing subscription costs enhances profits, they'll do it. If selling time to advertising enhances profits, they'll do it.

But I don't think they would sell advertising to reduce subscription costs didn't have the effect of enhancing profits. This isn't public broadcasting you know!
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