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Old 10-05-2005, 06:29 PM   #256
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If you looked at his previous posts he complains about it almost every post seemingly. He is a nice guy, but it does get old.

Yes, if someone complains almost every post about the same thing I will say something.

I never said that Sirius was perfect. Although you'd make it out like I do.
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Old 10-05-2005, 08:36 PM   #257
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Anyway I sent my concern via e-mail to Jay Clark about 10 days ago...No reply.

EDIT: @SISO. My mistake and apology. I did read back through the last pages to catch up on the thread and thought it was tied to censorship.
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Old 10-05-2005, 08:40 PM   #258
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If you read back a little you will see I'm not saying that because he commented on the censorship. That would be stupid, as this is a censorship thread like you said. I made that comment because of the constant remarks about the lack of funk.
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Old 10-06-2005, 01:10 AM   #259
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Not surprising I guess, but the 70's station is also censored. Jet airliner by Steve Miller Band "funky shit goin' down in the city" is played as "funky kicks going down in the city" Radio edit. How many innocent folks virgin ears were saved as a result of the change?
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Old 10-06-2005, 04:44 AM   #260
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message sent, by email and snail mail. Also send a CC to the stern show.
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Old 10-07-2005, 10:24 AM   #261
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message sent, by email and snail mail. Also send a CC to the stern show.
THats a good idea, Everyone should cc the stern show on all emails to sirius fighting censopship. Maybe if howard rails aginst it on hs show or in meetings with them we might get heard.
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Old 10-07-2005, 12:14 PM   #262
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The real problem is Sirius intentionally keeps the issue clouded by not expressing exactly which streams are censored and which are not. I think if they DID do that, the results would outrage the typical subscriber to find out most streams do in fact play censored tunes. For example they'd have to mark Hot Jamz and Alt Nation as censored, and that will turn a lot of people off. This is because those channels offer unique music, not readily available on an "uncensored" equivalent stream. And just the thought of censoring rap and alternative music is disgusting to the dedicated fans of both genres.

This issue drives me crazy because Sirius is intentionally trying to pull the wool over the average consumer's eyes so they will not have to face the proverbial music if they tell the subscribers in black and white.
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I think this thread is fine, some channels have always been censored and I think this thread can be mis-leading. The truth is a small portion of the songs in their library are censored.

Meant to talk about this comment as well. What SISO said is of course extremely disingenuous. Anyone who's been alive and listening to music for a while knows full well that only a small portion of music in general has objectional content that would need to be censored.
So saying "The truth is a small portion of the songs in their library are censored." is in fact true; but should be clarified with the statement "The truth is a small portion of the songs in their library have content deemded to need censoring."

If you want to start an honest debate, start with this rumination: "What percentage of Sirius' musical library that contains objectional content is censored?" My guess would be much much higher than you'd think on an "uncensored subscription service."
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Old 10-08-2005, 02:07 PM   #264
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I was just checking out that new weekly countdown show on Alt Nation. Nine Inch Nails' "Only" was number 11, so I was curious to see if they'd play the edited version. Surprisingly they actually played the uncensored version with the f-words intact. So I'm guessing the weekly countdown show doesn't follow the edited policy of Alt Nation? Or it was just another "mistake" and the edited version should of been played?
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Old 10-08-2005, 02:52 PM   #265
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Im glad you posted this Many people got sirius for the non-censored shows... Sirius, you cant do this to us!
I will be writing a letter to them too.

CENSORSHIP_OFF!!!

But isn't SHADE45 not censored or is it? cause the last time i listened to that channel, it wasn't censored...
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Old 10-08-2005, 04:17 PM   #266
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I was just checking out that new weekly countdown show on Alt Nation. Nine Inch Nails' "Only" was number 11, so I was curious to see if they'd play the edited version. Surprisingly they actually played the uncensored version with the f-words intact. So I'm guessing the weekly countdown show doesn't follow the edited policy of Alt Nation? Or it was just another "mistake" and the edited version should of been played?
Alt Nation seems to be inconsistent with edited vs. non-edited cuts of songs... "Only" is played in high-rotation on that channel and I've always heard the "f word" edited out. There are other songs that I always hear it left in tact... I don't know if it's even possible for this to be a mistake since I'm guessing all their music is stored on a server and queued up by coomputers... I wish I understood what it is they're trying to do with that station because subscription radio-edited alternitive music makes no sense.
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I was just checking out that new weekly countdown show on Alt Nation. Nine Inch Nails' "Only" was number 11, so I was curious to see if they'd play the edited version. Surprisingly they actually played the uncensored version with the f-words intact. So I'm guessing the weekly countdown show doesn't follow the edited policy of Alt Nation? Or it was just another "mistake" and the edited version should of been played?
Just the mere fact that there's radio-edited songs stored in the system in the first place shows you its no mistake. And not being up-front with people about this whole thing is making the situation that much worse.

Alt Nation needs to make a decision on whether or not it wants to be a Top 40 "Hits Based" FM Style channel with radio-edits or the uncensored alt-rock channel it claims to be. Right now they're completely lying to their listeners.

And in regards to Jayg27's comment:

I couldn't have said it better myself.
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Old 10-11-2005, 09:20 AM   #268
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I've seen posts in two different places now commenting on both "Alt Nation" and "Hot Jamz" no longer playing editied versions this week. So maybe Sirius has listened to us and the edits are gone. Guess we'll see.
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I've seen posts in two different places now commenting on both "Alt Nation" and "Hot Jamz" no longer playing editied versions this week. So maybe Sirius has listened to us and the edits are gone. Guess we'll see.
I dont think so because for some reason channels seem to be playing both Radio Edits and the Real Version.
No one knows whats going on.
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Old 10-12-2005, 10:20 AM   #270
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Its like one day they give you a feeling all is "ok" and then the next day your being screwed (out of free speech music). Welcome to Corporate America kiddies!!
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