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Old 09-06-2005, 01:25 AM   #106
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This is purely speculation at this point but there may be a codec improvement on September 29th.

Those of us that have had Sirius for a few years will remember the huge improvement that was made in February 2004 to the sound quality. Incidently feb 2004 was also the last time we had a major revamp to the Sirius line-up.

Sirius has had nearly two years to develop another codec tweak and it's my belief that they'll roll it out on the 29th.
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Old 09-06-2005, 02:27 AM   #107
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This is purely speculation at this point but there may be a codec improvement on September 29th.

Those of us that have had Sirius for a few years will remember the huge improvement that was made in February 2004 to the sound quality. Incidently feb 2004 was also the last time we had a major revamp to the Sirius line-up.

Sirius has had nearly two years to develop another codec tweak and it's my belief that they'll roll it out on the 29th.

I remember a time when Sirius really sounded bad a few years ago. XM was tight and much better sounding than they are now. In My opinion, the reverse happen and Sirius sounds better. I don't know but I'm happy with the SQ on Sirius. Maybe its my speakers and set up.
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Old 09-06-2005, 08:04 AM   #108
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The word on the street is that Sirius is adding even more channels (Cosmo). This will further erode at SQ. I honestly don't think they care about SQ, its more about stream count. Greed alone will push them into creating more streams then they can handle, a point they have already passed.
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Old 09-06-2005, 04:53 PM   #109
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The word on the street is that Sirius is adding even more channels (Cosmo). This will further erode at SQ. I honestly don't think they care about SQ, its more about stream count. Greed alone will push them into creating more streams then they can handle, a point they have already passed.
Because of bandwidth restrictions, they're not really adding more streams. They're eliminating and merging old streams to make way for the new streams.

And according to many who have posted on this site, SQ has actually gotten BETTER over about the last year and a half or so.
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I'll admit that it hasn't gotten much worse since adding new streams. I think they pass up oppertunities to improve SQ when possible for the trade off of more streams.
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Old 09-06-2005, 09:12 PM   #111
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Jonger, I think you are 100% right. I suspect that Sirius has found a SQ level which will satisfy most listeners, and they believe they can get more subs through variety than upping the SQ.
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Old 09-06-2005, 11:47 PM   #112
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The sound quality is a total letdown.

It has NEVER been as worse as it is now.
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Old 09-07-2005, 07:37 AM   #113
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The sound quality is a total letdown.

It has NEVER been as worse as it is now.
Wow..... maybe too much coffee this morning? [response to your other locked thread...]

I've followed your posts in other threads and it just seems that the match between you and Sirius may not be quite right. If you are looking for audiophile sound quality, you might have to stick with CDs. It's kinda like internet dial-up... you can't get broadband quality with a dialup modem.

While you may not be happy with the SQ, you seem to be in the minority and I'm not sure that much can be done for you by Sirius. I'm not sure what broadcasted signal, whether AM, FM, or satellite, is going to match the SQ of CDs in a sophisticated audiophile sound system.

Like others have suggested... maybe just cut your losses and invest your Sirius payment in CDs.

Good luck....
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The sound quality is a total letdown.

It has NEVER been as worse as it is now.
Your pure whining and complaining will get nothing done. If it's a total letdown, then I agree, SIRIUS isn't for you. Stop your subscription and stick to CD's.

I've personally had SIRIUS since 2002, and have seen continuous improvements in SQ. It has yet to match CD quality, but come on... it sounds like AM?! That's hogwash.

I'm an audiophile and I love SIRIUS. Perfect... no. But damn good... IMO, yes. But for you to come on here and tell others thinking of subscribing to stay away because the SQ is HORRIBLE, you're off your rocker.

If you hate it that bad, don't be an idiot... just cancel your sub and call it a day. Adios
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Old 09-07-2005, 01:46 PM   #115
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I'm not all that thrilled with sound quality, either. For the most part, I love the content (although, stop censoring Alt Nation, PLEASE!), and I love the lack of commercials, but songs with heavy cymbals especially can be painful to listen to.

It's not an equipment issue. I've got a SIR-KEN1 receiver plugged directly into a Kenwood XXV-01D deck, and Infinity components being fed by a JL e4650 amplifier. Compression is prevalent on most stations, though some are worse than others.

Am I happy with Sirius? Sure. But my future with the service would be far more secure if sound quality were to be improved. I'm not looking for true CD quality, but I would never rip an MP3 at even twice the bitrate that Sirius uses.
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:35 PM   #116
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Your pure whining and complaining will get nothing done. If it's a total letdown, then I agree, SIRIUS isn't for you. Stop your subscription and stick to CD's.
Let's see how this attitude would work in other scenarios:

Car recalls "rollovers & flaming deaths? Don't be an idiot - stop whining and go ride a horse..."

Slavery: "Emancipation schmancipation - stop whining and get back to work"

Marketing: "Don't like the taste of New Coke? You're crazy - go drink Pepsi"

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What exactly is everybody so afraid of in regards to valid complaints of SQ for either Sirius or XM...Cable, satellite TV, whatever? How does this threaten you? It certainly must - as I can't see any other reason why people go out of their way to flame some of the opinions posted here.

Sirius reps see posts here - Sirius reads what customers complain about directly to them. If nobody ever complained - there would be no efforts at improving the quality.

And please don't say this is beating a dead horse, that I'm whining, go buy CDs...etc.
If this talk annoys you - then read the thread title before entering.
This one says "Improve Sirius sound quality!".
If you don't like it - please don't click on it and don't be a "whiner" - go back to the "Sirius is infallible and I'm going to name my first child after them" thread.
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Old 09-07-2005, 06:15 PM   #117
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Let's see how this attitude would work in other scenarios:

Car recalls "rollovers & flaming deaths? Don't be an idiot - stop whining and go ride a horse..."

Slavery: "Emancipation schmancipation - stop whining and get back to work"

Marketing: "Don't like the taste of New Coke? You're crazy - go drink Pepsi"
My, such melodrama! Are you in theatre also, or just comedy?

Comparing slavery and defective vehicle-related deaths to Sirius sound quality issues is asinine, and an insult to the victims who were enslaved, died or critically injured.
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Old 09-07-2005, 06:31 PM   #118
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My, such melodrama! Are you in theatre also, or just comedy?

Comparing slavery and defective vehicle-related deaths to Sirius sound quality issues is asinine, and an insult to the victims who were enslaved, died or critically injured.
You can always expect this drama queen to show up on SQ. He just doesn't get it that the majority of us are okay with the SQ and if he isn't then he needs to cancel his service. I am glad to see folks finally slamming the lid on these folks that keep popping up with this BS over and over again. Good Job!
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What exactly is everybody so afraid of in regards to valid complaints of SQ for either Sirius or XM...Cable, satellite TV, whatever? How does this threaten you? It certainly must - as I can't see any other reason why people go out of their way to flame some of the opinions posted here.

Sirius reps see posts here - Sirius reads what customers complain about directly to them. If nobody ever complained - there would be no efforts at improving the quality.

And please don't say this is beating a dead horse, that I'm whining, go buy CDs...etc.

If this talk annoys you - then read the thread title before entering.
This one says "Improve Sirius sound quality!".
If you don't like it - please don't click on it and don't be a "whiner" - go back to the "Sirius is infallible and I'm going to name my first child after them" thread.
Your misrepresentation of the arguments of those who disagree is pathetic, not to mention fallacious.

Please show us where ANYBODY in this thread claimed Sirius and their SQ are infallible. You act like Sirius can just push a button somewhere and PRESTO, audiophile-quality sound will be ours in an instant.

And nobody feels threatened by your opinion, so get over yourself.

A significant part of the problem has to do with government restrictions on bandwidth, which is beyond Sirius's control. We would see better SQ and more channels if Sirius had been allotted more. It's my understanding that Sirius was only given half the bandwidth they requested.

Plenty of us have complained about various issues regarding Sirius, but unlike you, we're smart enough to contact management and customer service directly. Whining day after day on this forum will do virtually nothing to solve the problem. You're just spitting in the wind here.

THOUSANDS of subscribers have complained DIRECTLY to Sirius about SQ, repetitive playlists etc., since the first year the service launched, yet virtually nothing has been done.

So what makes you think that your constant bellyaching on this forum is going to accomplish something, when thus far DIRECT contact has failed?! You may as well just go shout out your window, like a dog barking at the moon.

And YES, I WILL say that you're beating a dead horse.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:17 PM   #120
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Actually, I think I'm going to name my next dog Sirius.

I enjoy the content on Sirius. It sounds fine at work through the overhead audio system. It sounds fine in my truck if I'm going 70mph with all four windows down. When I want to listen to it at low levels with low external noise with the windows up, however, is the problem. The thing that keeps me from cancelling Sirius (since I already have XM anyway) is my appreciation for its audio content.

Contacting Sirius support directly hasn't resolved much thus far. I wish XM and Sirius together had full control of 1/2 each the spectrum in the SDARS band.

Send letters to the FCC? Hah. That would help as much as contacting Sirius directly to resolve something they can't just snap their fingers to fix. A lot of people use internet forums to release pressure and exchange feelings about a potential comment. Maybe we need a "Sirius Sound Quality SUCKS" megathread?
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