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Old 11-04-2005, 01:31 PM   #31
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I live in Connecticut but grew up in Pennsylvania. My house is unable to have DirecTV since I have a lot of trees so it gives me an opportunity to listen to the Eagles when they aren't on tv.

And Howard coming in January was a huge plus. When they were giving free tuners last year, that sealed the deal for me!
free is definatly good. I got an orbirter and 1 yr sub free from my sirius rep last yr when I worked for radioshack. I abused the receiver so It died early but im glad I got it. I probably wouldnt have gotten sirius if not for that.
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Old 11-04-2005, 03:13 PM   #32
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Reaons for Sirius: (In my car)

1. Tired of FM and Commercials
2. Dance Music (But now they all are terrible)
3. Raw Dog Comedy (The Wiseguy Show)
4. NFL (My poor Titans)
5. Jazz (But I miss Swing Street)
6. Vacation (But now that's gone too)

Reasons for XM: (Getting it through Direct TV)

1. Decades
2. Cinemagic
3. U-Pop
4. All the Jazz Streams
5. BPM (Only dance stream I like)

Result: Almost a wash at this point. But over a year ago. It was Sirius by a landslide.

What I can't figure out is how come XM has 5 Million Subs and Sirius only has 2 Million Subs. Besides the fact that XM started before Sirius did. I can't understand why so many people hate XM over Sirius yet they lead 3 to 1 in Subs. Something to me doesn't add up.
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Old 11-04-2005, 03:44 PM   #33
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Howard Stern initially, but now that I have SIRIUS, I can't imagine listening to FM ever again.
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Old 11-04-2005, 05:02 PM   #34
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I did extensive research before committing to either. The reasons (in no particular order) were as follows.

XM had commercials at that time (don't care if they do or don't now)

sirius has more satelites in the air (figured better reception)

Classic Rock Stations

Studio Location

and finally I wanted to support the young upstart against the proven product. (competition is a great motivator)



Some things that concerned me were as follows:

Cost ( I have a 3 year deal and it really doesn't matter now)

can 2 SR's make it (cell phone comapanies and satelite TV)

Poor mgt and PR (still hasn't got much better)



I have absolutely no regrets and push it to others as much as I can.
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Old 11-04-2005, 05:15 PM   #35
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My take on why xm has more subs (to answer titan) is that they have a PR department that is actually successfull.

They were the first and got a jump on things.

I teach high school and every time I mention Satelite Radio to students, their first response EVERYTIME is "oh, XM!" so I explain that there is another satelite radio (kinda like brand recognition, think Kleenex, Scotch tape, White out, Coke, Vise grips, Elmer's glue, etc.)
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:39 PM   #36
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Got XM almost a year ago, basically since they were the only ones with a receiver that did not require a cradle (Roady 2). I also likes the idea of MLB and figured the music HAS to be better than FM + no commericals.

I switched to Sirius a week ago after growing dissatisfied with XMs handling of classic rock (which I've mentioned on these boards elsewhere, and on XMFan) and seeing the Starmate Replay (I considered it when the 1st Starmate came out but it was just too fat and clunky). XM also has no personality, with DJs on only a few channels.

Top Tracks plays too much 80s and after that the only option is deep tracks, which is a good channel, but they do get obscure in both song and artist a little too often. Sirius has many alternatives from classic vinyl and rewind to the vault, buzzsaw and, possibly my favorite (for now), the Spectrum. I also like the coffeehouse, although they need DJs. And Margaritaville isn't bad, but too much Buffett too often. Does anyone want to hear that much of him??? The other stuff on there is actually a pretty good mix.

I like the DJs, especially since I remember so many of them from NY radio back in the day. Sirius has a very local flavor to me despite being national. XM has no flavor; great music on some channels (the Loft, Real Jazz, Frank's Place, to name a few), but no personality especially in classic rock.
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I was about a week into my internal debate on which service to go with in '04 when Howard made his announcement. Case closed.

So..........Howard,

But there is so much more great shit on there that I think I would have gone with Sirius anyway.
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Old 11-04-2005, 11:02 PM   #38
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How's this for wide taste?--Key reasons:

Howard
Cousin Brucie
NPR
Jimmy Buffett
Classic NYC DJ's- Pat St John, Meg Griffin, Jim Kerr etc

It wasn't even a question. If Sirius had MLB it would be perfect!
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Old 11-05-2005, 01:05 AM   #39
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Reaons for Sirius: (In my car)

1. Tired of FM and Commercials
2. Dance Music (But now they all are terrible)
3. Raw Dog Comedy (The Wiseguy Show)
4. NFL (My poor Titans)
5. Jazz (But I miss Swing Street)
6. Vacation (But now that's gone too)

Reasons for XM: (Getting it through Direct TV)

1. Decades
2. Cinemagic
3. U-Pop
4. All the Jazz Streams
5. BPM (Only dance stream I like)

Result: Almost a wash at this point. But over a year ago. It was Sirius by a landslide.

What I can't figure out is how come XM has 5 Million Subs and Sirius only has 2 Million Subs. Besides the fact that XM started before Sirius did. I can't understand why so many people hate XM over Sirius yet they lead 3 to 1 in Subs. Something to me doesn't add up.
well by so many I hope you arent referring to a message board or two (no offense to any). These boards although a great place for information and conversation cant really be used a guage what the "average" consumer likes or dislikes (that's correct, we're all far from average).

Why is there a difference in the sub numbers? Well It cant really be placed on the fact that xm started sooner. I believe xm only had around 50k subs (give or take) when sirius went live.

I attribute the difference in sub numbers to four things:

1. OEM
I know both companies are liberal with how they count these subs but xm is in more cars then sirius

2. live portability
(I know theres the whole 30+% return rate talks. I take dabs and others word who claim this from their sources but I dont believe this to be a nationwide number. In your major metropolitain areas xm2go units work very well for the most part with just the internal antenna.

3. MLB.
Although maybe not the most popular sport anymore in the court of somes opinion it is over the course of a long summer season the most attended of all the major sport and gets the most exposure on average.

4. Logo Recognition
Beyond am. Beyond fm. xm. much easier for your average consumer to retain the sirius.
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Beyond am. Beyond fm. xm. much easier for your average consumer to retain the sirius.
bingo.. so so important.

Its like going to a fast food joint and ask for a drink. I say "coke" and never say Pepsi even though I meant Pepsi.

Sirius needs NAME RECOGNITION before their name becomes a Pepsi under Coke.
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4. Logo Recognition
Beyond am. Beyond fm. xm. much easier for your average consumer to retain the sirius.
bingo.. so so important.

Its like going to a fast food joint and ask for a drink. I say "coke" and never say Pepsi even though I meant Pepsi.

Sirius needs NAME RECOGNITION before their name becomes a Pepsi under Coke.
You should read this link in the stock forum: http://www.siriusbackstage.com/forum...ic.php?t=29564

Quote: "We give XM the advantage today on products in the marketplace and OEM penetration," Swinburne said, "while Sirius seems to capture more mindshare in consumers on programming and marketing."

I think Sirius has turned the tables on XM when it comes to name recognition.
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1. OEM
I know both companies are liberal with how they count these subs but xm is in more cars then sirius

2. live portability
(I know theres the whole 30+% return rate talks. I take dabs and others word who claim this from their sources but I dont believe this to be a nationwide number. In your major metropolitain areas xm2go units work very well for the most part with just the internal antenna.

3. MLB.
Although maybe not the most popular sport anymore in the court of somes opinion it is over the course of a long summer season the most attended of all the major sport and gets the most exposure on average.

4. Logo Recognition
Beyond am. Beyond fm. xm. much easier for your average consumer to retain the sirius.
It's OEM's and XM's one-year head start, nothing more, nothing less.
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XM:
BBC World Service
XM Public Radio

Sirius:
BBC World Service
PRI
NPR (2X)
WRN
Ditto X 4!
And now CBC Radio 1 is coming on board soon...
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At the time my reasons were:

(1) Orbital pattern seemed to make more sense.

(2) Vista (which is now gone) and Soundscape (which is more or less reborn)

(3) At the time XM was not music commericial free.

(4) NPR and PRI exclusivity to Sirius at the time.

(5) I actually started with XM at home and went to a shop where the guy convinced me to go Sirius for my car install--I preferred it and now have both XM and Sirius at home.

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When I first got satellite radio, I chose Sirius because it was the only provider offering commercial-free music programming as well as internet streaming of their music stations. I thought it was worth the extra $3 per month for those features (when XM was still $9.99). I've since added XM as well, but I plan on keeping and enjoying both for a long time.
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