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View Poll Results: Would you pay $25 a month for 128k sound
Yes 20 22.99%
NO 67 77.01%
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Old 11-29-2005, 06:52 PM   #16
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I wouldn't pay for more bandwitdh unless it included streaming the talk channels as well.
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Old 11-29-2005, 08:03 PM   #17
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I have speculated for a long time that codec improvement will be 90%+ turned into new channels. Sirius believes that the current SQ is good enough for the vast majority of subscribers, but more channels means more ways to attract new subs.

I voted no.
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Old 11-30-2005, 02:47 AM   #18
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I voted NO, I am happy with the sound quality. No it's not perfect, but I am not listening for all the imperfections, I am just enjoying the music. So many just can't get beyond that and to me that is too bad. All this talk of artifacts and such, I can't hear it and if I do, I must not know what it is and I don't want to know, cause I don't want to be screwed out of enjoying it like some folks apparently are that keep bringing this topic up.
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Old 11-30-2005, 09:06 AM   #19
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Agree 100%... To me, appreciating sound quality instead of the actual music goes against everything that music is.. I would rather hear a crappily recorded version of a great song, than a sound-quality-perfect version of a so-so song... (Having both is the best case scenario, but i'd rather have the great song)

I just picked up the 30 year reissue of Born to Run (for the DVD stuff, not the remastered version, altho its nice to have)... Some people told me that the original version was muddy and not the best recording... Personally I dont care - that album is great and I fell in love with that album when I played it on a rickety-ass "Monkees" branded record player with a 30 cent needle that had all the hisses, clicks, pops, and crackles.



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I voted NO, I am happy with the sound quality. No it's not perfect, but I am not listening for all the imperfections, I am just enjoying the music. So many just can't get beyond that and to me that is too bad. All this talk of artifacts and such, I can't hear it and if I do, I must not know what it is and I don't want to know, cause I don't want to be screwed out of enjoying it like some folks apparently are that keep bringing this topic up.
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I've been a pretty vocal critic of the sound quality, but it does sound better than 64 kbps MP3. I'd say it's the equivalent of 96 kbps MP3, which is the equivalent of something like 40 or 50 mbps in Ogg Vorbis. I would assume Sirius' codec is at least as efficient.
Hmm, you sure? I think a well ripped 96kbps mp3 will sound better. By well ripped, I mean not using some freeware program set at 'fast encode mode', but using a good encoder and letting it take the time to do its thing. For example, take a listen to this:

http://www.digitallyimported.com/mp3/vocaltrance.pls

Its a free 96kbps mp3 stream of vocal trance. In particular, the highs and female vocals sound significantly better than Sirius, and better than XM as well (to me anyways).

As for the poll, yes I'd definitly pay more for better sound quality, but I think at this point I'd pay more if they just installed a damn repeater in the Conjo Valley so that my signal wouldn't cut out so often
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Wow, disapointing results so far. I guess its apparent why Sirius sounds like shit, no one cares.

Curse my good ears.........
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Old 12-01-2005, 10:23 AM   #22
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I think the sound quality is very acceptable - no, not audiophile or cd, but better than fm or cassette IMO. If you are pumping it into a home stereo, think about installing Dish Network and you'll get a much higher rate and thus higher quality.

The only thing that drives me freaking nuts is the stereo seperation, or more specifically the lack of seperation. Over that, I wouldn't want to pay $25/month, I'm already at $27/mo because I have 3 receivers and if the price of a single one went to $25, I can't imagine what the cost of 3 would be.
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While I do very much wish sirius reduced compression on music channels, I don't think it would be worth almost double the price. Maybe $19 a month.

Another thing I've noticed is where the sound clearly sounds compressed on my OEM receiver (probably 1st gen hardware) and my 1-st gen receiver in my last car, it sounds a LOT better on my friend's starmate replay (3rd gen hardware).
So I think they've really increased sound quality with newer hardware.
Unfortunately that doesn't help me.
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Another thing I've noticed is where the sound clearly sounds compressed on my OEM receiver (probably 1st gen hardware) and my 1-st gen receiver in my last car, it sounds a LOT better on my friend's starmate replay (3rd gen hardware).
So I think they've really increased sound quality with newer hardware.
Unfortunately that doesn't help me.
Does your friend have an aftermarket stereo?
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Old 12-01-2005, 11:40 AM   #25
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For having debated this very issue to tears in other threads, I would definitely pay twice for good sound. Digial is such that they could easily claim 128-kbp/s stream and trickle it down over time to 112, 96 and even move down to 32 kbp/s AAC and many would hardly notice.

I think I would fall for pretty much any noticeable improvement to what is currently being used. Sirius, please get a grip and take care of your passengers.
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Old 12-01-2005, 12:25 PM   #26
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Wow, disapointing results so far. I guess its apparent why Sirius sounds like shit, no one cares.

Curse my good ears.........
I am by no means an audiophile, but it really amazes me how many people either cannot tell the difference between satellite radio & higher bitrate digital audio, or who are just indifferent. First time I listened to Sirius back about a year & a half ago, it drove me crazy listening to Dan Patrick on ESPN-- it sounded like he was talking into a tin can. I guess I was naive thinking the SQ would be at least equal to that of FM radio.
I rented a car with XM a few weeks ago & it didn't sound any better, even for music.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Sirius so far in the week or so that I've had it, but I would probably not subscribe just for the music-- the sports/talk/news + the wife's demand to listen to Stern are what would keep us as customers.

FWIW, I'd pay extra for 128. $25 is a lot but I'd probably end up buying less music which would more than compensate.
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Old 12-01-2005, 05:51 PM   #27
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Agree 100%... To me, appreciating sound quality instead of the actual music goes against everything that music is..
To me this sounds like: "The desire to have sex with a live person rather than with inflatable doll goes against everything that sex is..."
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Old 12-02-2005, 12:41 AM   #28
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I'd pay $18 a month for 200 channels of 320K music channels etc.
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Sounds fine. Besides, its a moot point! I don't see either Sirius or XM ever offering multiple quality levels.
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Does your friend have an aftermarket stereo?
No...and if he did, it would have been even more obvious. The digital compression was much less apparant, thanks to more precise decoding algorithms. If was the same quality output but going through a higher quality/aftermarket stereo, the compression sounds would be even more apparant, not less.
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