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Old 12-04-2006, 07:50 PM   #46
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I love hearing new 'old' songs by bands that I liked but never heard the songs before. That's why I got Satelite radio, I knew I would hear these songs that FM won't play. It's like discovering music all over again.
Yes and if we all wanted that, I am sure we'd all be subscribed to XM. But there are times when I just can't get into hearing those side B cuts that never made it into airplay. I think to some degree SIRIUS is too hits based, but by the same token, I think on some channels (not all) that XM is too side B oriented. I have both services and so having XM gives me that type music when I am in the mood for it. But the fact of the matter is, if I was ever in a position that I had to just pick on service. I'd have to go with SIRIUS simply because they do play what I love the most. No I don't like to hear them over and over and considering that there are about 18 or 20 channels that I actively switch between from day to day and week to week... I find the service GREAT! Nothing bums me out more than listening to a channel for 30 or 40 minutes and never hearing anything I like or know. Lets face it many of those side B cuts didn't get played, because they suck. Think about CD or Albums. If you get one with 3 or 4 worthy songs, then you got a good one. Though in all honestly I love listening to full albums, its only a dozen or two that have the honor of me sitting through them. The rest... NO Thank You!

People can say SIRIUS is more FM like and you know I don't deny that, but FM didn't do everything wrong. They lost their way along the journey, but to just think Sat Radio should be nothing like FM is just stupid. In my area FM doesn't hold a candle to XM or SIRIUS in terms of variety and enjoyment.
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Old 12-04-2006, 07:58 PM   #47
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Old 12-04-2006, 08:41 PM   #48
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I guess I just don't understand why someone would pay a monthly fee for a jukebox.

With the price of mp3 players, load one up with all the songs/music *you* like, and listen away, without the interruption of the annoying DJs... plus, you buy the tracks/CD once, not every month. Fair number of tracks can be purchased for the $180/year you'd otherwise spend on satellite radio... which has DJs and annoys you, too.

So why are you paying Sirius? They don't give you what you want (uninterrupted music)... but you pay 'em anyway.

Boggles the mind.
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I guess I just don't understand why someone would pay a monthly fee for a jukebox.
Could it be because there is more to radio than music? Howard Stern, comedy channels, NFL coverage, I've heard something or other about NASCAR, news, talk and other programming is also included with the subscription.

I just don't understand why someone would pay a monthly fee to hear a DJ that has nothing important to say. At least on FM, the DJ can offer local concert information or news, traffic or weather information. These hacks on satrad are not necessary unless you really long to hear a human voice.
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Old 12-05-2006, 12:10 AM   #50
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One thing for sure the DJ's aren't going anywhere, so if you don't like um, you've got a decision to make. Is all that wonderful content worth more to you than canceling over the DJ's?

We've had several polls in the past about this rather channels should have DJ's or Not... in every poll that I recall a big majority felt sat radio should indeed include DJ's.

By the way... to say that local DJ's only provide valuable information vs sat radio DJ's is total nonsense. There is going to be a clown show at Walmart this afternoon, don't forget to bring the kiddies. Vs, this group came together back in 1979, and are planning a reunion tour and then providing those tour dates. Most of the local DJ's don't have a clue about the history of groups. DJ's provide the human connection with subscribers and this is why in poll after poll they are recongized as being a valuable part of sat radio.
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I'm all about the music. Other than catching games virtually all that I listen to are the music channels. No talk at all. I don't care about Howie, O&A, R&F or any of the other talk. I care about the music. I bounce around on XM a lot more than Sirius because XM plays some obscure shit. And they play it way too often.
i dont get this. youre all about the music you grew up on listening to fm, where djs played only what they or the record cos wanted you to hear. do you actually think there were only 300 "good" tracks at any one time? the rest is just junk?

not telling you what to do but if your all about the music you might benefit from hearing some stuff fm djs didnt pick out of those 300 tracks for you. a lot of hte best music in existence got very little play on fm.

heres something for you. pick one of your favorite artists on your ipod in my case that might be clapton w/30 cds worth. go through the tracks on your ipod and look count the percentage of the excellent tracks that actually got played on fm. even xmsr with its much deeper playlist misses the vast majority of his output and siri plays even less.

someone that claims to be all about the music could probly benefit from deeper playlist.
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Who said anything about valuable information? I was merely saying that the prattle between songs would have some point. And even if the fact that some washout from the 80s has decided to break out the hair dye and spandex to tour county fairs and gun shows, announcing it between songs on Classic Rewind isn't going to bring a charge to the ticket counters.

Really. People come to the defense of these DJs like someone called for them to rounded up and shot.
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i dont get this. youre all about the music you grew up on listening to fm, where djs played only what they or the record cos wanted you to hear. do you actually think there were only 300 "good" tracks at any one time? the rest is just junk?
Well, I never said that I grew up on FM. I used to listen to FM in the car, but at home from the time I was about 6 I listened to a very steady stream of vinyl LP's. The Who, The Doors, The Beetles, AC/DC, The Stones, Johnny Cash, The Clash, CCR, ELP, Springsteen, Elvis and on and on and on.

Before sat-rad I listened to my iPod about 80% of the time. With a CD collection of somewhere near 400 my 30 GB iPod is LOADED with music that I love. When I rip a CD, I rip the CD. When I load my iPod, I load albums, not tracks. When I listen to my iPod, I create playlists around albums, not just artist. You really are preaching to the choir, you just don't know it because you are so wrapped up in being right.
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So, I guess the best way to vote is with the pocket book and remove the funding. I'm sure I won't bankrupt Sirius but they are short one subsciber which means they need two new ones now.

I hear you. It seems like Sirius is ALWAYS messing with the channel lineup and it is very frustrating. I listen to FoxNews regularly and was within a day of cancelling my sub when they finally announced it's return last winter. I am sorry to see you go after so long, but you've done the right thing. Using our feet to go across the street to another provider is the only leverage we have.
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Really. People come to the defense of these DJs like someone called for them to rounded up and shot.
The fact is you tried to make it sound like local DJ's have a purpose whereas those on Sat Radio do not, and that is just BS.

Also, who has to defend DJ's... I certainly do not, they are here to stay rather you like them or not is irrelevant. Clearly many of us feel they should be here or otherwise we just end up with a jukebox and in my mind that is not what Radio is about. I also think while there are some overly chatty DJ's, most of them keep it to a minimium and share tid bits of history and fun information.
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There is no real comparison that can be made between the ipod,mp3 players, and satellite radio. They are two different animals, and people use them both in very different ways.
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Finally! A voice of sanity!

You are correct, hazzar. You might as well compare Sirius and Dish Network, then decide Sirius is better because DN doesn't get all the Sirius channels.

Different media and platforms serve different purposes. Even similar media, like XM and Sirius, have differences that, ultimately, give them both a reason for being. I doubt many would disagree that XM has deeper playlists. I sure there are many MLB fans who could care less about NFL. And so forth. If Sirius and XM were twins, content wise, there'd be other differences that would make one more popular than the other; if nothing else the hardward design would dictate the uses, and therefore appeal to different customers.

I'm fairly happy with Sirius' content, can live with what I don't like, and am smart enough to work around any hardware limitations until better hardware is available.
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Dude, you don't get it. XM's playlists are too deep. From someone that loves music (and XM) their playlists are too deep. You hear deep tracks from bands that you like, bands that you don't like, bands that you haven't heard of, bands that nobody on the planet has ever heard of.
Which is exactly why I have XM. I seriously love hearing those bands and songs that I never knew existed before. I record them on my Inno. It's the same reason lots of people get XM, it's one of their strong points. **EDIT: Didn't realize I already posted earlier so excuse me for saying this again.
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Which is exactly why I have XM. I seriously love hearing those bands and songs that I never knew existed before. I record them on my Inno. It's the same reason lots of people get XM, it's one of their strong points. **EDIT: Didn't realize I already posted earlier so excuse me for saying this again.
I don't buy that, I don't think people go into stores and try to figure out which service plays the most obscure and eclectic playlist. The biggest reason folks get Sat Radio is commercial free music and variety of genres. It also helps to have a decent talk line up, along with sports.
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Musical diversity = an awful lot of songs from an awful lot of bands that you have NEVER heard of. You haven't heard of them for a reason.
- Godsmack? Never heard of 'em.
- They're good.
- I've never heard of 'em, so they can't be good.

I see a lot of bias on this forum against "bands that you have never heard of." If a person is totally against a band they have never heard of, they would never like any band. They have to wait and make sure the band is sufficiently mainstream before deciding if it is any good. They need to make sure plenty of people have "heard" of the band. Follow the crowd, in other words.
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