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Old 11-12-2003, 09:46 PM   #1
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Default The Rave would be Sirius Dance's most popular channel if....

...they started to get some big name DJ's in there. I realize Sirius is still a new service, but I am hoping by this time next year, all the DJ sets we hear on The Rave will actually be by big name DJ's like Mark Farina, DJ Tiesto, LTJ Bukem, Paul Van Dyk, Derrick Carter, etc.

In the meantime, some of the DJ's are good on there, some aren't, but one thing is for sure, I haven't heard of any of them and I am pretty clued into this music. When the lady says "mixed by the biggest names in Dance music...." even though I love Sirius, I can't help but laugh.

I guess once they have ten times the subscribers they have now, I'll be singing a different tune, but I just hope they have this planned in the future.
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Old 11-12-2003, 09:59 PM   #2
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...they started to get some big name DJ's in there. I realize Sirius is still a new service, but I am hoping by this time next year, all the DJ sets we hear on The Rave will actually be by big name DJ's like Mark Farina, DJ Tiesto, LTJ Bukem, Paul Van Dyk, Derrick Carter, etc.

In the meantime, some of the DJ's are good on there, some aren't, but one thing is for sure, I haven't heard of any of them and I am pretty clued into this music. When the lady says "mixed by the biggest names in Dance music...." even though I love Sirius, I can't help but laugh.

I guess once they have ten times the subscribers they have now, I'll be singing a different tune, but I just hope they have this planned in the future.
I have heard PVD(well, his mixes) on The Vortex and Planet Dance. In fact, I think I saw both on within about 20 minutes of each other(totally different mixes though).
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Old 11-13-2003, 04:40 PM   #3
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it's been said before, but it warrants being repeated...

the liners on the Rave just muck up the stream.

1. they should not have sound effects under them, becuase it clashes with the music. The liners always get played over the music since its a mix stream (duh?) so the liners should be as clean as possible.

2. the liners should be timed to actually run inbetween mixes. You often hear a liner dropped in during a song (not over the vocals at least), but still, it sounds bad. It interrupts a song....then the song finishes and transitions to the next song with no liner. that's goofy, pluto!

3. don't stop a mix set or start one abruptly. some seem to end rather suddenly, then when a new one starts its like all into a song already.

just my 3 cents I guess
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(Originally posted: 02-11-2004, 08:37 PM) - Announced yesterday on allaccess.com that Joel Salkowitz has stepped down from his executive role at Sirius...He was the PD of Hot 97 when it was the best dance station that has ever existed in the US...I cant help but also wonder if his exit signals the further demise of the dance streams we all think need some major help.
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Old 11-19-2003, 06:25 PM   #4
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Honestly People please be patient and give this stream some time I know they are working on changes and it will begin being more organized within the next few months the reason some mixes end abruptly is because they are 2 hour sets broken down into 4 30 minute segments so there can be times when the song ends abruptly just to make the mix fit in the 30 second spot please be patient and expect some positive changes to come to the Rave soon
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Old 11-21-2003, 10:17 AM   #5
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I'm with you Cannon, I've complained for months about the bits they play, how they interrupt the music, how they were excessive and the like.

Still, they play on...
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do the DJ's do these sets exclusively for sirius? the DJ's should be able to let Sirius no where the timing of the transissions are, then sirius just has to program the sweepers in those doughnuts...

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I think they just order "mix shows" from various djs, the more well known the dj is the more money the rave needs, i think there just trying to build up a collection of mixs faster. I wish i could hear some paul oakenfold or dj sammy on there! :-/ this is what this channel is made for.
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I think they just order "mix shows" from various djs, the more well known the dj is the more money the rave needs, i think there just trying to build up a collection of mixs faster. I wish i could hear some paul oakenfold or dj sammy on there! :-/ this is what this channel is made for.
Were you serious about Oakenfold and Sammy?
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Old 11-21-2003, 03:21 PM   #9
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DJ Sammy is a remixing freak, but hardly a capable set performer from what I've heard. Of course, this is just my opinion... and we all have them

That said, I do enjoy some of the music from him, but don't think he could cut it on The Rave.
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Old 11-21-2003, 03:46 PM   #10
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I've heard a couple sets by DJ Sammy on The Rave already. This was about two months ago maybe?

Honestly, they weren't very good IMHO. It was all pop-sounding music with vocals, just like every other set I heard on this channel during the summer. I'm hoping The Rave can eventually book some real DJ's who are artists in themselves, rather than just craftsmen. What makes a DJ great, besides mixing, is when he/she can pick tracks you've never heard. DJ's are *the* people who expose new music so I would like to hear a lot of this on The Rave.

I'LL BREAK IT DOWN TO THIS: I would like to hear DJ's and big names on here that are SET/MIX-DRIVEN, not TRACK-DRIVEN. All summer long I couldn't listen to The Rave because it was just some unknown guy spinning Top-40 Trance hits. That's OK for once and a while, but obviously some of these guys bought the most popular music they could find and spun it for Sirius. Instead, I'd like to hear something where you have to tune in to hear the set. Where the set is a work of art. You know what I mean? Not that "Wow this is a good track" but instead "Wow this is a GREAT set." That's the difference between booking a guy like Derrick Carter and a guy like DJ Sammy. Carter will spin tracks you've never heard, but all sound amazing, but when mixed together and taken as a WHOLE are simply a work of art. Same with other big name DJ's. DJ Sammy will spin one hit record after another with no thought about the people listening to this as a mix. When you go and buy a Digweed mix at the store, it is something that draws you in and you HAVE to keep listening because "I wonder what track he is going to drop next" or that type of thing. The set is a JOURNEY, not just a bunch of hit records. THIS is the type of stuff I would like to hear on The Rave. Basically they can take some advice on how to do it right by calling up Pete Tong over at BBC Radio1 in London, and get some copies of all the Essential Mixes that they have aired over there. Each set is a work of ART and is DJ-driven, not track-driven.

All things aside, I like The Rave more NOW than I did this summer because I hear some much better sets on there. I've heard a good breaks set and a good progressive house set this week. MUCH better than some of that poppy stuff I've heard in the past. Vocals are nice, but when every set is vocally driven things start to sound the same. Eventually I would like this channel to be THE channel to go to to hear a real set of ALL the genres of Dance. I would love a good Drum n' Bass set, Garage set, Deep House set, Techno set, etc. Mix it up... play all the genres, and both underground AND pop-vocal music, depending on the set/DJ.

This channel has unliminited potential IMO. Believe me I'm not complaining, just getting my voice out there as they continue to work on the channel and book DJ's. I think by this time next year this channel will be incredible, rather than just merely "OK."
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Old 11-22-2003, 12:46 AM   #11
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A mix of everything would be nice on The Rave. If they could get Paul Oakenfold and Junior Vasquez on The Rave, That would be extra nice. Hey if WKTU can get them, why not Sirius?


Also please limit the sweepers with the English lady.... The Rave should sound more like how Grooveradio and Vortex do their mixes. Miniumum sweepers on those mixes.
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You guys think it's so easy to get the big names?? These guys are Very Very busy and even if sirus offered them a good amount of $$$ there are times when they are not available because other projects. Sirius Does have Famous Djays on the Rave Jonathan Peters, Barry Harris,Johnny Vicious, Razor, Glenn Friscia, The Riddler and many more please be patient with this stream I know there are an excessive amount of mixes being repeated this will hopefully stop soon once more mixes get loaded into computer and as far as drops and sweeps go you should start only hearing about 5 an hour soon top of hour, 10 after, 20 after, 30 after , 40 after ,50 after. Please give this stream some time to mature it is a great stream once it gets programmed correctly and djays get scheduled properly it will be great give it some time also U will be Hearing More BIG name djays soon
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You guys think it's so easy to get the big names?? These guys are Very Very busy and even if sirus offered them a good amount of $$$ there are times when they are not available because other projects.
If WKTU can get them, so could Sirius. This isn't a tiny operation. This a chance for these DJ's to be heard Nationwide. I wish The Rave would play more Riddler mixes. He mixes like once every two months? How bout Paul Oakenfold and Junior Vasquez? Paul Van Dyk would be good too. And not just one mix. Every week!
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5 sweepers an hour is way too many.. that's one every 12 minutes! Ideally, we should hear a sweeper once, maybe twice every hour.

We know what channel we are tuned to, we know what's playing.. so why so many sweepers? Honestly, Sirius is going to get more advertising from our mouths than by a sweeper playing in a retail store somewhere trying to pull in a potential buyer.

Hell, I don't think airwave radio station ID's/sweeps 5 times an hour.
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5 sweepers an hour is way too many.. that's one every 12 minutes! Ideally, we should hear a sweeper once, maybe twice every hour.

We know what channel we are tuned to, we know what's playing.. so why so many sweepers? Honestly, Sirius is going to get more advertising from our mouths than by a sweeper playing in a retail store somewhere trying to pull in a potential buyer.

Hell, I don't think airwave radio station ID's/sweeps 5 times an hour.


Right on. And what retail store would play The Rave anyways? Its a specialty format of dance mixing. Two sweepers an hour is enough. Its not like we don't know what we are listening to.. There not like trying to get Arbitron ratings so theres no need for all the sweepers like FM radio does.
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