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Old 04-06-2005, 08:02 AM   #1
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I just purchased my Sirius Starbase and am awaiting installation. I thought long and hard about going with XM. I am a DJ and techno music junky. I chose Sirius because, by listening online, I seemed to like Sirius' track selection better. I also like that they have a break beat/old school stream. Does anyone here have both XM and Sirius or had XM in the past and can make a comparison for me as far as dance streams? I just want to make sure I made the right decision before I install and activate. Thanks!
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Old 04-06-2005, 08:35 AM   #2
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Old 04-06-2005, 05:05 PM   #3
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I posted in the other thread weeks ago, but need to correct my position. After going form XM to Sirius to XM, I am now back w/Sirius. As a huge dance fan, I now realize why Sirius' dance lineup is so much better. Yes I do think BPM is better than The Beat, but the overall dance programming on Sirius really is better. I listen to Area 63 and Boombox A LOT. With XM, I could hardly stand the obscurity of The System and BPM sounded like a jukebox (no real human connection outside of prime time listening hours). The Move is good, but the programming is so rigid that if you don't like the shows they air, you basically have just narrowed your choices to 2 dance channels. I didn't like the majority of shows on The Move...they are too specific...I'd rather hear tracks than a progressive mix I constantly get lost in.

I did enjoy "Pressure" on The Move, but it's only a 2 hr show...I can get breaks on Sirius 24/7.

I really prefer Sirius' dance lineup, but that's just me.
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Old 04-07-2005, 11:38 PM   #4
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I just made up a new email address and tried the three day XM online trial again last week.....

first of all their online player sucks.

but more importantly still not impressed by 80-82. not enought to fork out 9.99 (much less 12.95 a month)
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(Originally posted: 02-11-2004, 08:37 PM) - Announced yesterday on allaccess.com that Joel Salkowitz has stepped down from his executive role at Sirius...He was the PD of Hot 97 when it was the best dance station that has ever existed in the US...I cant help but also wonder if his exit signals the further demise of the dance streams we all think need some major help.
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Old 04-08-2005, 01:57 PM   #5
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Actually Cannon, I just got the MyFi and I've been pleasantly surprised with XM's dance. I hear a lot of Drum and Bass, which I like, and I like the late night DJ sets I've heard so far. Long ago when I had XM Dance, it wasn't that great, but it seems to be much better now. I still prefer Sirius' selection, but the damn repeats have got to stop!

Most importantly, in two days I have not heard ONE repeat! That's a helluva plus for me.
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Old 04-08-2005, 02:20 PM   #6
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It really depends on what you're looking for...

The Beat has radio "personalities" and more of an FM feel. BPM digs a little deeper (not so much remixed pop hits) and is quicker to pick up new music. BPM also has various mix shows which The Beat doesn't.

Area 63 isn't bad, but they're bad about repeats and STATION IDS. The System plays a broader spectrum of EDM minus any house music. That means trance, trance breaks, ambient, some industrial, some "electronica" like moby. It also has the Subterranean mix show on fridays which is a mix of trance, breaks, and progressive that is pretty good, a new mix show called SMUT (not sure what it's supposed to be yet, but the first time I caught it, it was a solid hour of Gabriel & Dresden productions or remixes), and of course Future Progression four solid hours on saturday of the best trance on the airwaves.

XM has no equivalent to Remix or Chill, but they make up for that with the well placed mixed shows on their other channels.

The Move covers everything underground. Regular mix shows dedicated to breaks, DnB, Deep House, Progressive (trance and house), Chicago house and a 9 hour chill segment Sunday during the day.

I think Remix is Sirius' strong point, but it's not strong enough. If you're more inclined to seek out a party or hit an afterhours event than go to the typical dance club, XM is better. If the typical dance club is for you, or you only have a mild interest in trance, or you like freestyle or oldschool breaks (sort of) Sirius is better.
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Old 04-08-2005, 03:26 PM   #7
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I kinda like both. First BPM blows away The Beat. BPM plays real dance while The Beat plays too much bubble gum pop dance like Kelly Clarkson crap. As for Remix. I like it way better than The Move. Also Area 63 is better than The System. I don't count Boombox or Chill because I don't consider them real dance stations.
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Old 04-09-2005, 04:40 PM   #8
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Actually Cannon, I just got the MyFi and I've been pleasantly surprised with XM's dance. I hear a lot of Drum and Bass, which I like, and I like the late night DJ sets I've heard so far. Long ago when I had XM Dance, it wasn't that great, but it seems to be much better now. I still prefer Sirius' selection, but the damn repeats have got to stop!

Most importantly, in two days I have not heard ONE repeat! That's a helluva plus for me.
The MyFi is very cool. Sirius defin needs something competitive to that asap. I noticed BPM is playing the 33.3 countdown 4 times a week now, so as far as repitition goes thats very excessive. BPM i smy 2nd favorite satellite dance station. Don't get me wrong there. I think they are much better than area 63...but until BPM gets the type of personality of the Beat they will always be 2md. And I love dance music too, but I just really prefer shorter 3-4 minute radio edits of songs. Area 63 is driving me nuts now b/c almost every song is 7-9 minutes long.....
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The MyFi is very cool. Sirius defin needs something competitive to that asap. I noticed BPM is playing the 33.3 countdown 4 times a week now, so as far as repitition goes thats very excessive.
Excessive? Hardly. You fail to note the very different times the countdown is offered, obviously to make it available to people with different lifestyles and schedules. This was a brilliant move by BPM. Reaching more people by being more user-friendly. What a concept!

In any case, 4 broadcasts of a countdown, which contains the most popular songs [DUH] doesn't come close to dethroning The Beat as the Repetition King.

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Old 04-10-2005, 01:26 PM   #10
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then your definition of repitition needs reworking. whats worse....hearing the same 20 something songs a lot in random orders....

or

hearing the same 33 songs in the same order over and over (with the same dj talk, etc).

sure I guess since XM has 30 billion subscribers there are so many different lifestyles represented that they need to do the countdown that many times....but im sure there is an equally high number of people that are listening at those same times and thinking ok, here we go again.

It's like the Superstation on cable...TBS. They'll show Legally Blonde 3 times in one weekend. Is that a benevolent attempt on their part to accommodate all lifestyle varying fans of Reese Witherspoon.....or is it just lazy programming?

I think repeating a countdown twice is reasonable. But 4 times. good lawd... we are taking about the weekend here....and they post the list online for crying out loud. if you are so busy over the weekend you cant catch it....just print the damn thing out.

I love making people laugh by the way....its even more fun making people stop and think
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Old 04-10-2005, 02:02 PM   #11
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Oh, you make me think. About how ignorant you are.

You are a champion at missing the point.

BPM's countdown runs at very different times, so most people will not hear it all four times, much less more than twice. It allows more people to hear it! This is not a bad thing, as you would lead readers to believe. If listeners were to hear it all four times, BFD, the show is comprised of the most popular songs, for Christ's sake.

Here are the show times:

Friday 4pm et/1pt
Saturday 10am et/7pt
Sunday 8pm et/5 pt
Monday night midnight et/9pm pt

That's a pretty nice distribution of times.
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Old 04-10-2005, 03:53 PM   #12
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sorry for missing your point. you missed mine two. BPM is accused in this form by others (not just me) of being lifeless, boring, personality devoid...

having the same countdown four times...seems like an easy way to fill time on a station and give a station some personality when it is otehrwise severly lacking.

I have wished the Beat would have a countdown for two years.....but at least when the count down wasnt on...there would be DJ's present.

BPM when its not doing the 33.3 quadruple play is a jukebox.
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Old 04-10-2005, 04:43 PM   #13
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BPM when its not doing the 33.3 quadruple play is a jukebox.
Ah, he attempts to redirect the topic when he's been nailed. Your singular argument was very clear: "BPM is wrong to play its countdown 4 times."

Your ignorance continues to shine brightly because BPM is not a jukebox, it has jocks and lots of music information (although I can do without the yappiness of Mark Feather). You obviously haven't listened lately because if you have, you wouldn't make such an inane statement.

How about you stick to chatting about The Beat and not about things you aren't informed about.
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Old 04-10-2005, 06:04 PM   #14
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Ok. I will never mention the letters BPM again since I am inane.
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Old 04-11-2005, 11:38 AM   #15
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Could we please quit the sensless bickering about "Sirius vs. XM"? Personally, I prefer Sirius as well (and I prefer "the Beat"), but I'm glad we have both services and both have different programming strategies, so that simply gives us all more choices.
I had XM at first, then dropped them after getting Sirius about 2 1/2 years ago because I liked Sirius's more "hit focused" approach better. But, I've listened to "BPM" a bit lately and looked at their playlist, and they are sounding much better than before. I also am getting ready to purchase either a MyFi or the new Pioneer portable and re-subscribe to XM. As I said, I still prefer Sirius and "the Beat" as my first choice, but I would certainly enjoy having "BPM" as a second choice (plus I can use the MyFi at work). So while I may not like XM's overall programming strategy as well as Sirius, they do have a couple of channels that make it worth subscribing to as a second choice for me ("BPM" and "U-Pop"). So pretty soon I will have both services again.
So regardless of our favorite; why don't we get together and support satellite radio in general. Some may prefer "the Beat" and others "BPM", but you have to admit no matter which is your favorite, you can't beat having two great choices for dance hits.
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