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Old 10-30-2005, 08:30 PM   #1
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I went to FreakNight 2005 at QWest Field in Seattle and got to see Liquid Todd spinning Live.

http://www.uscevents.com/freaknight/2005/area1.php

He is an amazing spinner live. He was wearing his Sirius hat I was wishing I had brought mine with me.

But this guy sure knows how to get a crowd going with his mix of hit rock and techno was just amazing audio journey.

Paul Oakenfold was great also but he was just mixing from CD's I was like this was kinda lame and he was playing lots of good tracks though.

Got to see Crystal Method that was an enjoyable show also.

But great costume party. Just wanted to say Liquid Todd was the best of the show for me.

Though I am a little biased on that =)

He did soem awesome things with Gorillaz Feel Good Inc and Stripes Seven Nation Army. Really enjoyed it.

If you ever get the chance go see Liquid Todd Live
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Old 10-30-2005, 11:30 PM   #2
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Was he playing hip hop to get the crowd going?? lol
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wow, their is so much interest here about liquid todd, this thread is about to explode.
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I honestly don't think the hip-hop on Boombox is Todd's doing.
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He was spinning Hard Trance and mixing it in with some modern rock and alternative it was a great show.

I didn't hear one ounce of hip hop coming from any of the three stages.
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why don't he keep it that way for his station! that would be awesome!!!
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You know, I like Liquid Todd. I also think he has a freaking amazing taste in music. I just wish we didn't have to lose a REAL dance station to something like Boombox.
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wow, their is so much interest here about liquid todd, this thread is about to explode.
Yo, fred415,

First of all: it's "there" not "their."

Second of all why do you have to be such a dick?

You know it is thoughtful, constructive comments like yours that make siriusbackstage so popular with Sirius employees. Why should we spend so much time working our asses off trying to make our stations great when we can get slagged off by snotty, anonymous haters with axes to grind?

SARCASM OFF.

Seriously, though, I would like to thank Tristan for posting about his experiences at Freak Night 9 in Seattle. Glad you were there! You should have come up and said hello. I don't know if you noticed that the sound guys didn't get the bass on until near the end of my set. It was very frustrating since so many of my records have huge basslines. But since I was opening for Paul Oakenfold - and he requests such massive stage monitors - I turned them around towards the crowd so there would be SOME bottom end. They finally got it on right before I finished but it kinda bummed me out.

Anyway, that's all I have to say today. I wish people would realize that hip-hop IS electronic music. If you took away the vocals on many comtemporary hip hop tracks you would realize just how experimental some of the sounds and drum programming really is. I do understand that the very structure of Sirius' service tends to reinforce music genre-typing. However, there has got to be places on the Sirius dial for stations that have unique formats.

I think Boombox sounds awesome right now. We have a kickass new show from DJ Icey (Automatic Static - Saturday nights 11pm with a replay Tuesdays at 11pm) and all of our new tracks are top-notch. Kool DJ Red Alert is rocking it weekdays from Noon-4pm (EST) and we have shows in the pipeline that I'm really excited about.

Now I'm REALLY done. I swear. Geez, every time I log on here I end up writing an epic post. That's all for today... Ok. Take your best shot.

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Yo Liquid Todd, if your station is so great, why so much negativity, i said it before, i have no problems with your show on weeknights, but seriously, i have been listening to hip hop for at least 20 years now, and will continue, but it doesn't belong on a dance music stream, period, your station relates more to backspin than a dance stream, but i guess the majority of dance fans don't know swat and were all out of it. Do you really believe your station will attract more subscribers? The way i see it, your station would be a great fit on AOL Radio or something like that, where we have more options, i wouldn't mind having Boombox with another 10 dance stations, but it's sad to see that (THERE) is no House Music station (pleasse spare me Area 33) , no 24h. mixing station and no real classic dance station, but we're stuck with an half hip hop station and Chill wich is great but could be inserted in the pop category! I love Red Alert, i have been a fan since the 98.7 kiss FM, i also enjoy the flash mash, but where is the logic on a dance stream? DJ Icey is great whenever i was in Tampa, i enjoyed his music in the clubs at Ybor city, that's more what your station needs. I guess every one will keep quiet on this discussion because we're dealing with the man itself, it's positive criticism, well that's the way i see it, except for the cheap shot in my last post, it was out of line and i'm sorry for that! But please just let me know, why in the world would Sirius remove a station like Remix and stick with your station?
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why in the world would Sirius remove a station like Remix and stick with your station?

Because THEY like it. Boombox should be deleted. And I'm sure it will have its last day eventually....

I don't think enough people support it.
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I too am SURE Boombox will last maybe one or two more line-up overhauls and it'll be gone or moved to the hip-hop category. CLEARLY Remix was FAR more popular than Boombox could EVER be! The dance channels on sirius are so watered down now it's unbelieveable. Chill and Boombox have gotta go and get some real dance stations in their place (i.e. an ALL trance and an ALL house and an ALL classic dance station). Remix coming back would be the best!
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Chill and Boombox have gotta go and get some real dance stations in their place!
Gawd...NO!! Chill is one of the main reasons I dropped XM and came over to Sirius. And since, I have really come to love Boombox!! Hey LT...there are people here that love these two streams!!!

An interesting side note: At CES in Las Vegas last January, most of the tricked out custom cars displaying the latest ultra sound systems were playing Boombox.
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Yo Liquid Todd, if your station is so great, why so much negativity, i said it before, i have no problems with your show on weeknights, but seriously, i have been listening to hip hop for at least 20 years now, and will continue, but it doesn't belong on a dance music stream, period, your station relates more to backspin than a dance stream, but i guess the majority of dance fans don't know swat and were all out of it. Do you really believe your station will attract more subscribers? The way i see it, your station would be a great fit on AOL Radio or something like that, where we have more options, i wouldn't mind having Boombox with another 10 dance stations, but it's sad to see that (THERE) is no House Music station (pleasse spare me Area 33) , no 24h. mixing station and no real classic dance station, but we're stuck with an half hip hop station and Chill wich is great but could be inserted in the pop category! I love Red Alert, i have been a fan since the 98.7 kiss FM, i also enjoy the flash mash, but where is the logic on a dance stream? DJ Icey is great whenever i was in Tampa, i enjoyed his music in the clubs at Ybor city, that's more what your station needs. I guess every one will keep quiet on this discussion because we're dealing with the man itself, it's positive criticism, well that's the way i see it, except for the cheap shot in my last post, it was out of line and i'm sorry for that! But please just let me know, why in the world would Sirius remove a station like Remix and stick with your station?
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Why so much negativity? Well I gotta tell you the only place I really encounter constant negativity is here and it's usually from the same small group of people who post over and over again. codedude is a great example. Go to his member page and then check out his posts. There are literally pages and pages of rants about me, Chill and Boombox there. He's not a fan and he likes to tell everyone...over and over again.

The feedback I've been getting on the phones and on my e-mail is overwhelmingly positive. Most Boombox listeners are breaks fans who are excited that there is finally an all-breaks radio station. I also receive a lot of mail asking for song information. Unfortunately siriusbackstage isn't exactly the "fan site" we were hoping for. You would think that with five commerical free radio stations that play music no terrestrial station would touch with a ten-foot pole 24.7/365 that people would be slightly more...positive.

You seem to be really hung up on filing everything away in the proper place. You say Boombox doesn't belong in the dance category. Well does it belong in the hip hop category? How about forgetting the categories and genres for a minute and just listening to the music? Did it ever occur to you that hip-hop IS electronic music: music made with samplers and sequencers?

And you think Chill should be in the pop category? Are you serious? Do you ever listen to the pop stations? Do you really think there is room for the kind of deep, instrumental cuts we play on Chill on a pop station?

Maybe you should spend a day or two listening to terrestrial radio for a reality check on what commercial music really sounds like. Then come back to me and tell me how much our dance channels suck. And it's great that you know so much about dance music but I'm not a music snob. You don't need to know everything about dance music to enjoy it and it bothers me when music elitists put other people down just because they are new to the scene.

I've seen a lot of complaining about the loss of Remix on these forums. I was sad to see it go too. I thought it had matured into a really solid channel. But management made the decision to cut it because there was overlap with Area and they needed the bandwidth for new channels. I did my best to keep it but I don't make those kind of decisions. Dance music is - and will probably always be - an underground music genre in America. We have five radio stations dedicated to this underground format which is five more than 95% of the cities in the US have.

The fact is: Remix is gone. You can either continue to wail about it or you can move on. We have a very robust and diverse dance selection at Sirius. Is it perfect? Of course not and we will always keep trying to make it better. Hopefully as compression technology advances we will get the bandwidth to create some new dance channels. I'd love to launch an all house channel. And, of course, I think it would be cool to have a station like Remix back too - a station which primarily features the art of the DJ.

It's very hard to do hybrid formats on satelllite radio because the very structure we have created lends itself to compartmentation. However, I'm not giving up on the exciting possibilities that exist in fusing different musical styles together to create new formats. I realize I'm going to take some heat for my efforts. So be it.

We may not agree but I thank you for your thoughtful response. I hope this answers some of your questions.

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I truly enjoyed LT's show on alt nation a couple of years back (forget the name). It really fit the format and was the perfect specialty show for that channel.

Also, remember everyone that we are in the mere infancy of bandwith for streaming music. In the not too distant future, you'll likely be able to hear Mongolian Polka 24/7 wherever and whenever you want. Hang on, think of how muh better it is today than even 5 yrs ago and take heed in the fact that we aint' seen nothin yet.
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Fred,

Why so much negativity? Well I gotta tell you the only place I really encounter constant negativity is here and it's usually from the same small group of people who post over and over again. codedude is a great example. Go to his member page and then check out his posts. There are literally pages and pages of rants about me, Chill and Boombox there. He's not a fan and he likes to tell everyone...over and over again.

The feedback I've been getting on the phones and on my e-mail is overwhelmingly positive. Most Boombox listeners are breaks fans who are excited that there is finally an all-breaks radio station. I also receive a lot of mail asking for song information. Unfortunately siriusbackstage isn't exactly the "fan site" we were hoping for. You would think that with five commerical free radio stations that play music no terrestrial station would touch with a ten-foot pole 24.7/365 that people would be slightly more...positive.

You seem to be really hung up on filing everything away in the proper place. You say Boombox doesn't belong in the dance category. Well does it belong in the hip hop category? How about forgetting the categories and genres for a minute and just listening to the music? Did it ever occur to you that hip-hop IS electronic music: music made with samplers and sequencers?

And you think Chill should be in the pop category? Are you serious? Do you ever listen to the pop stations? Do you really think there is room for the kind of deep, instrumental cuts we play on Chill on a pop station?

Maybe you should spend a day or two listening to terrestrial radio for a reality check on what commercial music really sounds like. Then come back to me and tell me how much our dance channels suck. And it's great that you know so much about dance music but I'm not a music snob. You don't need to know everything about dance music to enjoy it and it bothers me when music elitists put other people down just because they are new to the scene.

I've seen a lot of complaining about the loss of Remix on these forums. I was sad to see it go too. I thought it had matured into a really solid channel. But management made the decision to cut it because there was overlap with Area and they needed the bandwidth for new channels. I did my best to keep it but I don't make those kind of decisions. Dance music is - and will probably always be - an underground music genre in America. We have five radio stations dedicated to this underground format which is five more than 95% of the cities in the US have.

The fact is: Remix is gone. You can either continue to wail about it or you can move on. We have a very robust and diverse dance selection at Sirius. Is it perfect? Of course not and we will always keep trying to make it better. Hopefully as compression technology advances we will get the bandwidth to create some new dance channels. I'd love to launch an all house channel. And, of course, I think it would be cool to have a station like Remix back too - a station which primarily features the art of the DJ.

It's very hard to do hybrid formats on satelllite radio because the very structure we have created lends itself to compartmentation. However, I'm not giving up on the exciting possibilities that exist in fusing different musical styles together to create new formats. I realize I'm going to take some heat for my efforts. So be it.

We may not agree but I thank you for your thoughtful response. I hope this answers some of your questions.

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I have to agree with Fred, I don't see why you are getting so worked up. Maybe you should listen to what these people are saying. If one person feels this way, there are probably a lot more that feel the same way too that don’t know how to get in contact with you. It's only constructive criticism so calm down. I have heard a lot of people say they hate Boombox and Chill so of course the feed back you get for Boombox and Chill are good if you are relying on the people who listen to those stations for their comments. If you rely on everyone who listens to all of the dance categories, you would probably see that a lot of people do not like these two stations, myself included.

Remix is gone for now, and from what you said above it's never coming back. I think that has got to be the ignorant statement ever. This just shows you could care less about what the listeners want. You shouldn't get mad at Fred for saying what Boombox and Chill should merge with, because you were the one who told us that Remix merged with Area 33 because they were management thought they were similar. Why can't chill and Boombox merge with other sations if they are similar too and bring back a popular station that is actually listened to by most of the people who listen to your dance stations? I think the narrow mindedness that you have and upper management has for not wanting to bring back Remix is what is causing all the anger, mostly which is directed at you. It shows that you and management don't care what everyone else wants and that you keep what stations you and management like. Maybe you should show upper management what people are saying about dropping Remix since they are obviously clueless about what's going on and make the decisions. I do put part blame on you for this station being dropped, but I also know you are not the only person who should be blamed. People make mistake, but mistakes can always be corrected.

Since you say upper management made the decision to drop Remix, could you please post their names and/or contact info so that we can get in touch with them to see why they would drop that station and to voice or displeasure?
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