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Old 08-29-2005, 05:37 PM   #16
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it looks as if Sirius is trying to tailor themselves to a younger audience.
Definitely. It seems that they are all but handing over that part of the population that is wanting to hear pre-Rock and Roll popular music over to XM. On XM such a listener can choose from the 40s, the 50s, Frank's Place, and Sunny (as well as On the Rocks online). For people that are listeners of the music of Frank Sinatra, Perry Como, Glenn Miller, Jo Stafford, Benny Goodman, Doris Day, etc., the choice between XM and Sirius has been made much easier. Some of us might have wished for a channel similar to Sunny or On the Rocks to be added to Sirius, but now I really don't think that will ever happen since they decided that they could not even keep a channel devoted to big band music.

I am a fan of Standard Time, but melding all of the above together on one channel (and that does not count all of the awful remakes of the standards done by the likes of Tony Danza, Danny Aiello, Kevin Spacey, and Barry Manilow that they seem to love at Standard Time) is not enough for me to recommend Sirius now to people who are wanting satellite radio so that they can listen to this important part of American music.

Before I get flamed, please understand that I have both Sirius and XM for different reasons and generally I prefer Standard Time to Frank's Place. I also prefer Movin' Easy to the Blend and listen to other Sirius stations. You see, I am in my thirties so I sometimes want to hear music from the 70s and 80s, but I'm thinking of the parents and grandparents that don't want to listen to the music of my youth (and who aren't on message boards giving their opinions). They only want to hear Dino, Frank, Rosie, Artie Shaw, Ella, Mel Torme, etc. I think that now it would be foolish to tell someone like that to pick Sirius over XM, unfortunately. For now, I'll stay with both myself, but I feel that this is a sad thing that Sirius has decided to do.
well put! ....sounds like I could have written this
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Old 08-29-2005, 09:03 PM   #17
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If it's any constellation, I sent out a letter today via the U.S postal service to Mr. Jay Clark in regards to the removal of Swing Street. I just stated in my letter about my feelings about big band music and asking him to please keep Swing Street on the air and how this station is important and special to Sirius.

I hope that my letter I sent out will in some way help save the station if you will. If you feel strongly about Swing Street, please send a letter out as soon as possable. This may be our only chance at saving a priceless music channel.
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Do emails of complaint do any good? If they do, now is the time to
complain instead of after the fact.
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Old 09-02-2005, 09:16 AM   #19
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Do emails of complaint do any good? If they do, now is the time to
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An email is BETTER then NOTHING. I at least went to http://sirius.com and emailed swing street and sent feedback on the matter. This costs nothing except a few minutes of your time. Sadly enough i doubt it will do any good as they seem to have already made their decision.......and come sept 29th i will make mine.
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Old 09-16-2005, 07:48 PM   #20
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Just received the new programming mailer today and was all excited until i opened it.....

I just emailed my complaint concerning Swing Street getting consolidated with Standard Time. I really liked listening to both channels, but not sure that combining them is a good idea. I guess its the price we pay for selection; we must have Martha's latest pet care and craft tips....

Music first please!
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Old 09-17-2005, 05:08 PM   #21
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Long-time Sirius listeners will remember that from its early days (2002), Sirius had a dedicated, full-time New Age channel: Soundscapes on 98. In their wisdom, Sirius dropped the dedicated Soundscapes channel in January 2004, and said the former Soundscapes content could be heard on Chill 64. This didn't satisfy Soundscapes fans, so Sirius brought back a Sunday-only all-Soundscapes program first on JazzCafe 71, then moved it to Horizons 99. But with the new channel lineup on Sept. 29, a dedicated New Age channel returns (to ch. 73, at the expense of Swing Street).

My point: There is a precedent for Sirius dropping a dedicated music channel and replacing it first as part of the shared content of an existing channel, then as a dedicated once-a-week program, and finally back to square one as a dedicated channel. Let's hope this happens with Swing Street.
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Old 09-17-2005, 09:31 PM   #22
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My point: There is a precedent for Sirius dropping a dedicated music channel and replacing it first as part of the shared content of an existing channel, then as a dedicated once-a-week program, and finally back to square one as a dedicated channel. Let's hope this happens with Swing Street.
So long as you don't mind waiting nearly 2 years and pulling your hair out in the meantime at the loss.

On the loss and subsequent return of NewAge/Ambient (in whatever incarnation you want to call it this time around), the handling always seemed like a veiled attempt to hide a screw-up -- dumping the format, bringing it back 1/2 a day each week, then a day each weekend, then moving the channel around. I'm glad it's back, and for my tastes, I hope that it pushes out the bad Barry Manilow remakes from Standard Time.

In a way, it seems like Sirius may be refining its programming a bit more. I opened the new program guide and was actually for once pleased with the results, since it means I'll need to opt somewhat less for listening to XM over Sirius for some of the programming that Sirius lacks (and still does in cases like Sunny). But I suspect that Sirius has refined its demographic toward a younger market, and must believe that Swing Street's demo was somewhere between say 75 and...well...dead, and that might not have been where they had in mind.

Think of it in terms of car companies, such as Lincoln or Cadillac -- as the average age of their buyers steadily increased, both have known that they've had to appeal to new markets before their target market would be too close to mortality, and Lincoln's chief designer even went public with that as a statement. Change is sometimes necessary. <shrug>
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Old 09-18-2005, 08:31 PM   #23
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Heck, yeah, I’m unhappy about it! SwingStreet is one of my favorite channels on Sirius. I totally didn’t see this coming. Somebody up there in chanrge of programming changes has no taste in music (I know, I’m stating the obvious).

75+yrs the main demographic for swing music? I'm several years younger than half the minimum of that. I thought the paradigm of Sirius programming was to offer specific music styles on-demand, so that people could choose what they were in the mood to hear. Such a shame that they’re going towards bubblegum content by adding two more rock stations at the expense of SwingStreet.

If XM starts offering some decent hardware (I’m comparing their’s to my JVC SR2000 (which seems premium to me)), I’ll probably be going with them after all their upcoming lineup changes happen. I always suspected that they generally have more eclectic content than Sirius, glad to find out that I wasn’t just lucky when I tried it for short periods at stores.
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Old 09-28-2005, 09:36 PM   #24
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I recorded quite a few of the bumpers from Swing Street since we'll
no longer hear them, and I appended them to one file and then converted
the file to an mp3. If I ever get nostalgic, I'll be able to at least listen to that file.
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Old 09-28-2005, 11:00 PM   #25
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Default Swing Street RIP ,new channel :(

Yeah great we are loosing swingstreet and adding these dumb channels we dont need....I dont mind hearing howard but they can keep Martha ,richard simmons,and the radio chic.They should have just let things be.....
If we are gaining subs,then why change the channels???
If I knew swingstreet was going I woulda never did a lifetime sub.
Xm has the 40s.I may have to get the new roady for this type of music.
Standards and swingstreet should have been kept independant channels.
I guess I'll just back up the last hours of this great channel in mp3 format.
RIP Swing street and The Vortex (well missed).'
And I'm only 33 ,so dont get the demos wrong....
Shoulda dumped the HIP HOP CHANNELS WE HAVE TOO MANY!
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Old 09-29-2005, 04:42 PM   #26
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They were supposed to be adding some swing music to Standard Time. I listened for a while this morning, none heard.
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Old 09-29-2005, 06:48 PM   #27
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It doesn’t even matter to me if they include swing in StandardTime or not. On-demand swing is gone now and therefore so has much of my interest in satellite radio. Sirius is programmed exclusively by rock fans.
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Old 09-30-2005, 10:37 AM   #28
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I was born twenty-some years after the swing era was over, but I loved the music on Swing Street. There just isn't enough of it on the new Standard Time. I also like Standard Time a lot. But I am aghast that there is no place on Sirius for the classic jazz music of the 1920s - 1940s.
  • Louis Armstrong
  • Duke Ellington
  • Count Basie
  • Benny Goodman
  • Glenn Miller
  • Ella Fitzgerald
  • Artie Shaw
  • Bille Holiday
  • Tommy Dorsey
  • Gene Krupa
  • Harry James
  • Chick Webb
  • Fletcher Henderson
  • Earl Hines
  • Art Tatum
  • Teddy Wilson
  • Jelly Roll Morton . . .
These are among the greatest musicians of all time, and there should be a channel for their music. (I realize that some of these artists made recordings in the 1950s and later and these may be heard on Standard Time, but I am talking about the music these artists recorded the 1940s and earlier.)

I miss Swing Street. I really want a big band / classic jazz channel!
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Old 09-30-2005, 10:39 AM   #29
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I was born twenty-some years after the swing era was over, but I loved the music on Swing Street. There just isn't enough of it on the new Standard Time. I also like Standard Time a lot. But I am aghast that there is no place on Sirius for the classic jazz music of the 1920s - 1940s.
  • Louis Armstrong
  • Duke Ellington
  • Count Basie
  • Benny Goodman
  • Glenn Miller
  • Ella Fitzgerald
  • Artie Shaw
  • Bille Holiday
  • Tommy Dorsey
  • Gene Krupa
  • Harry James
  • Chick Webb
  • Fletcher Henderson
  • Earl Hines
  • Art Tatum
  • Teddy Wilson
  • Jelly Roll Morton . . .
These are among the greatest musicians of all time, and there should be a channel for their music. (I realize that some of these artists made recordings in the 1950s and later and these may be heard on Standard Time, but I am talking about the music these artists recorded the 1940s and earlier.)

I miss Swing Street. I really want a big band / classic jazz channel!
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Old 10-01-2005, 12:55 AM   #30
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...I am aghast that there is no place on Sirius for the classic jazz music of the 1920s - 1940s.
  • Louis Armstrong
  • Duke Ellington
  • Count Basie
  • Benny Goodman
  • Glenn Miller
  • Ella Fitzgerald
  • Artie Shaw
  • Bille Holiday
  • Tommy Dorsey
  • Gene Krupa
  • Harry James
  • Chick Webb
  • Fletcher Henderson
  • Earl Hines
  • Art Tatum
  • Teddy Wilson
  • Jelly Roll Morton . . .
These are among the greatest musicians of all time, and there should be a channel for their music.
My sentiments exactly! The only original American art form, and the ones that helped create it and their music is GONE.
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