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Old 10-21-2005, 02:38 AM   #61
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". . . but I think it's a mistake to allocate channels strictly on the basis of record sales and popularity."

>>Sirius has to make money to stay in business. Playing what's popular and sells well is a must in the radio industry, whether satellite or terrestrial. So from a business standpoint, it's critical. We're talking reality here, not pie-in-the-sky idealistic opinions of how this or that channel should be programmed.

"So, I'd be pretty happy to give up one of the two dozen pop and rock channels to get one channel of classic jazz. Definitely."

>>But each and every one of those pop and rock channels has their hardcore fans. So there are people who would raise cain if just one of them was deleted. Since rock and pop are far more popular and sell much better than jazz, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out which genre is going to get a channel assimilated or deleted, when necessary changes must be made. That's just good business.
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Old 10-21-2005, 08:47 AM   #62
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". . >>But each and every one of those pop and rock channels has their hardcore fans. So there are people who would raise cain if just one of them was deleted. Since rock and pop are far more popular and sell much better than jazz, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out which genre is going to get a channel assimilated or deleted, when necessary changes must be made. That's just good business.
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Old 10-22-2005, 01:51 AM   #63
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Please continue to post all the irrelevant BS you wish.

It does nothing to change the hard truth I posted.

The bottom line is that Sirius is a business, and they have to make sound business decisions. It has nothing to do with Clear Channel.

By the way, Clear Channel owns 3% of XM outright, so don't think that satellite radio is going to "protect" us from big bad CC.

And CC didn't get to be as dominant as they are by being stupid. Sirius won't get to a dominant position by being stupid, either.
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Old 10-23-2005, 04:08 PM   #64
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LOL What DeerfieldDave wrote is funny and relevent, actually. People will stop subscribing to Sirius for the same reasons they’ve stopped listening to Clear Channel stations. With all the bandwidth that Sirius has, they could easily offer a diverse variety of music but that obviously isn’t the direction that they’ve chosen to follow.
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Old 10-25-2005, 06:32 AM   #65
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"LOL What DeerfieldDave wrote is funny and relevent, actually."

>>I agree it's funny, but definitely not relevant.

"People will stop subscribing to Sirius for the same reasons they’ve stopped listening to Clear Channel stations."

>>Dream on. Sirius will probably add at least three million new customers by the end of 2006. Also, their churn rate continues to be remarkably low.

"With all the bandwidth that Sirius has, they could easily offer a diverse variety of music but that obviously isn’t the direction that they’ve chosen to follow."

>>Get real. Sirius's significant shortage of bandwidth has been discussed hundreds of times on this site. Where've you been?
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Old 10-25-2005, 06:43 PM   #66
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With all the bandwidth that Sirius has, they could easily offer a diverse variety of music but that obviously isn’t the direction that they’ve chosen to follow.
Get real. Sirius's significant shortage of bandwidth has been discussed hundreds of times on this site. Where've you been?
Excuse me? Sirius has the same amount of bandwidth as XM, yet their variety of music continues to shrink and become less and less diverse than XM’s. It’s OBVIOUS. You might not mind it, but I think it sucks and that’s why I won’t be renewing my Sirius subscription unless the trend reverses in major ways (plus they're going to have to remedy the problem of high repetition). As Sirius continues to become more and more like Clear Channel, more and more people will feel the same way that I do about it.
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Old 10-25-2005, 07:45 PM   #67
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Old 10-25-2005, 09:00 PM   #68
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Old 10-25-2005, 09:12 PM   #69
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Old 10-28-2005, 11:05 PM   #70
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Diversity will be the key to Sirius's survival. I have to agree with all the banter on the loss of Swing Town etc. Sirius has all it's eggs in on basket with the rock channels and Stern. I love Sirius and don't want to see them loose their edge, but It looks like they have made the decision to target the 20-30 year old male listener. At least we still have Chill, Spa, Disorder, Planet Jazz,
Bluegrass, Classical. What if Howard gets hit by a truck tomorrow, what happens next ?
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Old 10-31-2005, 04:51 PM   #71
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my sinatra show is on sirius 103 every wednesday evening at 8:30 eastern as part of the podshow lineup...more talk than music but i hope it'll become a regular listen for swing fans here

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Old 11-01-2005, 12:15 PM   #72
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Frank Sinatra didn’t play the kind of music that we now miss with the deletion of SwingStreet. The kind of music we miss is rhythm-based and was performed mainly with instruments, by artists such as Gene Krupa, King Oliver, Benny Goodman, Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington, etc in the ‘20s and ‘30s.
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Old 11-01-2005, 12:24 PM   #73
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i understand -- and i didn't mean to imply that the 24minutes and 30 secomds each week would replace an entire channel anyway...just wanted to let people who might be interested know about the show

no offense meant

i was just playing some old 78s of gene krupa at home the other night...what a monster!
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Old 11-01-2005, 12:26 PM   #74
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Frank Sinatra didn’t play the kind of music that we now miss with the deletion of SwingStreet.
True enough. But I'm glad that there's a Sinatra show on Sirius. I look forward to hearing it.
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Old 11-01-2005, 01:32 PM   #75
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OK, but I would place the Sinatra show notice in a topic for listeners of StandardTime. Too many people are confusing Croon with Swing, and SwingStreet is gone because of suggestions that it could be consolidated with StandardTime.
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