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Old 08-11-2005, 09:54 PM   #31
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If you read my post you would see that I said i don't listen and don't care that they have the channels here.
Who are you trying to kid, it evidently rubs you pretty good, but the bottom line is that Sirius going to do what is best for this service in terms of gaining subscribers and if that means adding more Christian channels or removing some then that is what they will do. So your opinion just like mine means very little in that equation, it about what channels can be added to bring in more subscribers. It is my opinion and rather you disagree or not matters not to me, but Southern Gospel is a huge genre as proven by the amount of license given by the FCC for new stations and the sales of music at records stores. Many people seem to be stirred by those so called myths and if Sirius can get some subs out of it, that is what they will do, like it or not.

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If having the christian word spread is so important, and you feel that 5 channels isn't enough then maybe you and the other fundamentalist should start a new christian sattelite radio service, so they can stop wasting good bandwith on silly myths on the service I and other non christian, non religious people pay for.
Considering that there are 2 players in this arena and no license left to be purchased that is not possible. The two current players have a long way to go before they will be making any money, I doubt you'll see any new sat radio services starting for any one particular genre rather it be classic rock or christian/gospel. Christian people by the same token will be paying for Stern, OutQ or anything else Sirius decides to add that we may not be interested in hearing, but I guess that is okay with you, we just have to live with it and of course those would not be a waste of bandwidth at all. I am not the one here that is knocking any channels that is your deal, I don't have any issues with ANY channels Sirius has as I understand it is business. Though I may not agree with all their choices it is about driving subscriptions.

You seem to be contridicting yourself, because you say you don't listen and don't care that Sirius has Christian channels, only to turn around and say they are a waste of bandwidth and offer them up for removal because you don't like their content. There are many channels that I am sure folks don't like the content, so do we remove those too or you just plan to single out Christain channels only?
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Old 08-11-2005, 10:02 PM   #32
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I think Sirius is already wasting too much bandwith on christian mythology. There are 5 channels of this nonsense already, be happy with them.

If Sirius ever gave me a choice of what channels to cut this would be the first place I would look.

Now I have no hate of christians or their right to be christian, I just don't want it to have an influence in my life, and not just christians, I don't want any god mythology or silly religious rules being forced on people. I currently don't listen to the channels and really don't care that Sirius has them, but we certainly don't need more and if they need to trim waste this would be the best place to start.
There are way more people that call themselves Christians than call themselves gay, does that mean that we don't need Qutq?

No one is forcing you to tune in are they?
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There are thousands of Christian stations on free radio, versus no gay stations. Which might be an easier market to corner?

And no, Sirius does not force us to listed to Christian stations. However, we are forced to PAY for those stations. I don't really mind the number of Christian stations Sirius currently has, but if they start cluttering up the service with more stuff I don't listen to (especially, because of the bandwidth issue, at the expense of stuff that might actually be interesting), I'll cancel the service.
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There are thousands of Christian stations on free radio, versus no gay stations. Which might be an easier market to corner?

And no, Sirius does not force us to listed to Christian stations. However, we are forced to PAY for those stations. I don't really mind the number of Christian stations Sirius currently has, but if they start cluttering up the service with more stuff I don't listen to (especially, because of the bandwidth issue, at the expense of stuff that might actually be interesting), I'll cancel the service.
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I have to pay for stations I don't listen to, I guess I will cancel too Then again, I understand that its just not about me.
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I have to pay for stations I don't listen to, I guess I will cancel too Then again, I understand that its just not about me.
Don't you just love it. Its okay for Christians to pay for stuff they don't listen too or don't care about, but GOD forbid these folks have to pay for a few Christian channels. I think we now have over a 120 channels and 5 are Christian and if the The Word goes as it appears that it more than likely will, then that drops it to 4, so I hardly see that as cluttering up the service. We've got 3 weather channels and 10 traffic/weather channels, I don't hear anyone complaining about them cluttering up the service. I don't want no stinking weather channel trying to force their weather on me. ROTFLOL Like I am really being forced to listen, this is just crazy.
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It seems to me that people that think this way are just revealing a bigotry towards Christians.

We are only paying for the content that we want to listen to. Either that content that we like is enough value to justify the price or it isn't. To cancel because there are 4-5 Christian oriented channels (2 music, 2 english talk, one spanish talk) is intolerance to an extreme. There are way more than 4-5 channels and programs that are offensive to most Christians but I think they understand that they don't have to listen.

If Sirius had no Christian channels, that would be a huge mistake from a marketing standpoint, but I guess people like this evidently don't care about anyone but themselves.
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There are way more people that call themselves Christians than call themselves gay, does that mean that we don't need Qutq?

No one is forcing you to tune in are they?
So then any christian that doesn't have a problem with gay people, isn't a real christian. I thought your god preached about love thy neighbor and that there was only one judge ?

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I think all religion is a waste of time, not just yours, and I don't hate them or the people that practice them.

Be as christian as you want I don't care. And I have never said I am cancelling or thinking about cancelling because of the christian channels. The op posted that he/she thought it would be a good idea to add another christian channel, I think we have too many. I never complained about paying for it, but i have said that I feel he bandwith could be used better on other things.

And yep there are 120 channels with 5 christian, but hey where is the Buddhist channel, or the Isalmic channel, or the Hindu channel, or the Hebrew channel. How about one christian and one for the other major religions or will that make baby jesus cry like OutQ does ?

Would the christians here be willing to sacrifice 4 of their channels so that other religions could exercise their freedom of religion or do you just want to make sure that the are more channels promoting your god ?

And for the record, I am not cancelling if they add another christian channel, I'm not calling Sirius and asking them to get rid of the ones on here and I will never listen to them, and I don't care part of my money goes there, but if I get a vote I say they go, and I don't think the company should add any more., and i think the ones they have are a waste of bandwith, so sue me.
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Would the christians here be willing to sacrifice 4 of their channels so that other religions could exercise their freedom of religion or do you just want to make sure that the are more channels promoting your god ?
This isn't a freedom of religion issue. It's simply a business decision, and in this country, the demand for Christian content is higher than other religious content. If placing other religious programming on the dial would pull in enough customers then they would add that too.

Even though they have 5 Christian related channels on the dial, only one appeals to me and that's Spirit channel 12. So if they cut the other 4 I wouldn't complain, but I'm sure there are many others that would.
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Have Mel Gibson make it. From the money and religious fans he got from his huge money making movie "The Passion of the Christ" I bet he could hook in a lot of subscrictions.

I belong to no religion but I could see the advantage that a Christian channel could bring to Sirius. Of course if it didn't interfear with any other channels that are already on here.
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Fergz, you obviously dont know the Bible. All you know is what people say on tv. Jesus called us to judge sin all the time. We are not allowed to judge the destiny of a person (heaven or hell) but we are CALLED to judge where they will go IF their lifestyle does not change. The Bible IS CLEAR ON HOMOSEXUALITY, its a sin like any other sin. period.

On the marketing issue...I mentioned it before, the evangelicals put Bush in the White House. They are a HUGE base that could bring a lot of money to Sirius. Not the Islamics, not the Buddhist, not the Hindus. This is America not Asia or the Middle East. By putting a hindu or buddhist channel on Sirius wont bring many more people. But if Sirius could add a few more Christian choices, I think the Christian community would pick Sirius over XM any day of the week. Thered be no competition. Why would you "vote no" to a few more Christian channels when all it can do is ADD subscriptions. Not to mention (heres a news flash) YOU DONT HAVE TO LISTEN TO THEM. Just like you probably dont listen to the vast majority of channels on Sirius now. I am sure there are just a few channels you listen to on a regular basis. So dont give us this ridiculous argument of bandwith. What do you want, to listen to every channel? Theres not enough time in a week to do that.
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