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Old 08-22-2005, 12:27 AM   #241
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I am going to guess that you don’t have kids. I am also going to guess that you are under 25 years old. Let me know if I am wrong.
You're half right. No, I don't have kids but I am over 25 years of age.



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I don’t know what TV you watch, but much more is shown today than ever before. Have you ever watched TV with a young child? My nephew when he was 5 wouldn’t watch a Lassie movie because a man was yelling and hitting the dog. Children need time to develop. Parents just want a heads up so that we can make good choices.
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Why does Starlite have to be Uncensored? How about New Country? Can you not enjoy those channels if the DJ doesn’t drop the F-Bomb?
Personally I don't have a problem with whether they do or don't curse. And I never said they should. It's just that they should have the freedom to do so if they so choose.

Let's not forget one of the main reasons why we have satellite radio in the first place...because of the stronghold the FCC has on FM radio. It really amazes me that everytime I listen to the uncensored, commerial-free content on BBC Radio 1 that it's just traditional FM radio, and no one seems to have a problem with it in the UK. But over here in the states we have people complaining about programming being uncensored on a service that we PAY for.

I sincerely hope that someday both SIRIUS and XM introduce a separate family/kids service to accommodate everyone. That way we could have everything on our regular service 100% uncensored the way it was meant to be heard, and the other would be family-friendly programming. I think that's a compromise everyone could live with. Maybe someday the bandwidth will allow for it. But until that day, I will not accept censorship in any form or fashion.
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Old 08-22-2005, 11:01 AM   #242
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Listening to some of these parents you (and I am one as well) you would think that they never saw a rated R movie before they were 18. Maybe never rode in the big back window of the car when they were little or maybe never rode in the very back back of a station wagon facing the traffic.

If you continue to protect them from themselves you breed complacency, stupidity and laziness.

Teaching childern to adapt a deal with the rough world at hand now is much better than sheltering them and letting it all be a big suprise from tem later.

Who here had the college friend that had never done, seen or tried anything? College broke them for a while huh?


Kids are going to get what they want anyway Be a good parent and work with them through it don't just hide it from them...
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Old 08-22-2005, 01:14 PM   #243
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I just wrote a letter to the people at SIrius and I suggest that everyone that is outraged at this do the same.

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I have been a subscriber for over a year, and I love the service. Recently I have noticed that many of my favorite stations have been censored due to some contract with sprint that Sirius has. These 4 stations are the 4 that I listen to most especially Faction. I was just thinking about getting a lifetime subscription but now I am not sure if I want to continue to pay for music that is censored. I know I can tune to the other channels but they don't have exactly the same play lists that these 4 formally great channels have.

I have been preaching Sirius to my family and friends since before I even got the service. And I even got a few new sub's for you guys. Now they are just as upset as I am that they are paying for censored music. I don't think that I can purchase a lifetime membership or promote Sirius any longer.

If this is only temporary please let me know and I will for sure continue my support for your service.
You can do it snail mail, or fill out the form on their website.


*edit* just heard a 50 cent song on faction that wasn't censored. Has this sprint thing not taken effect yet?
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Old 08-22-2005, 03:18 PM   #244
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Been posting about this topic on a couple threads. This thread has gotten into a censorship debate, which it should not be, but this isn't about the debate.

Someone theorized earlier in the thread that Sirius is "testing the waters" with this move. From talking to a CSR, that sounds exactly like what they're doing. They told me right now only Alt Nation and Hot Jamz is being censored to test customer response in preparation for the Sprint deal. As of now Faction and the other ones (forgot which ones) are not censored. He said they will change their plans according to customer response (i.e. dropped subs.)

He also said they are monitoring the situation and DO notate accounts that have complained about this; so if you don't like this and haven't complained you're not helping! It is unfortunate, but Sirius IS playing the money game, and if the equation works out positive they WILL censor these channels permanently. Right now it's being billed as temporary, but you MUST complain.
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Been posting about this topic on a couple threads. This thread has gotten into a censorship debate, which it should not be, but this isn't about the debate.

Someone theorized earlier in the thread that Sirius is "testing the waters" with this move. From talking to a CSR, that sounds exactly like what they're doing. They told me right now only Alt Nation and Hot Jamz is being censored to test customer response in preparation for the Sprint deal. As of now Faction and the other ones (forgot which ones) are not censored. He said they will change their plans according to customer response (i.e. dropped subs.)

He also said they are monitoring the situation and DO notate accounts that have complained about this; so if you don't like this and haven't complained you're not helping! It is unfortunate, but Sirius IS playing the money game, and if the equation works out positive they WILL censor these channels permanently. Right now it's being billed as temporary, but you MUST complain.
Thank you for that post!
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Old 08-22-2005, 05:24 PM   #246
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I'd be more than happy to complain about this but what's the most effective method? Call a CSR and complain, e-mail or what?
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All 3 if you can, calling would be better than emailing because they get your account number and like he said they do notate accounts that do complain about it. Writting a letter would probably be best though.

I hope they haven't lost to many because a good number of them may not come back.
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To the parents that are actually concerned and involved with their kids' upbringing: Thank you for being in the minority.
that has to be about the stupidest thing i have ever read on sbs or any other forum.
Um, she's right. Have you seen the kids today? Running around the damn store, parents not making them mind, and you know they are the same at home, running amok. Those are the types of parents that want the TV to baby-sit their kids.
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Listening to some of these parents you (and I am one as well) you would think that they never saw a rated R movie before they were 18. Maybe never rode in the big back window of the car when they were little or maybe never rode in the very back back of a station wagon facing the traffic.

If you continue to protect them from themselves you breed complacency, stupidity and laziness.

Teaching childern to adapt a deal with the rough world at hand now is much better than sheltering them and letting it all be a big suprise from tem later.

Who here had the college friend that had never done, seen or tried anything? College broke them for a while huh?


Kids are going to get what they want anyway Be a good parent and work with them through it don't just hide it from them...
Agreed.
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Teaching childern to adapt a deal with the rough world at hand now is much better than sheltering them and letting it all be a big suprise from tem later.
I agree but only to a point. Kids need limits and safe spaces to be kids without being exposed to adult situations, ideas and language. My kids have seen more in their short lives and been through more than a lot of adults. That doesn't mean they are small adults or that they need to continually be exposed to things they aren't ready to comprehend.

Kids are growing up too fast these days and need permission and limitations placed on them so that they do slow down.

It is up to parents to find the right balance for their kids.
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It really amazes me that everytime I listen to the uncensored, commerial-free content on BBC Radio 1 that it's just traditional FM radio, and no one seems to have a problem with it in the UK. But over here in the states we have people complaining about programming being uncensored on a service that we PAY for.
It really amazes me that people think that Radio 1 is uncensored. Do a quick google. There is much more censorship in the UK than the US.
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hi sg,

good post - basically just what i have been saying.
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Listening to some of these parents you (and I am one as well) you would think that they never saw a rated R movie before they were 18. Maybe never rode in the big back window of the car when they were little or maybe never rode in the very back back of a station wagon facing the traffic.

If you continue to protect them from themselves you breed complacency, stupidity and laziness.

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Who here had the college friend that had never done, seen or tried anything? College broke them for a while huh?


Kids are going to get what they want anyway Be a good parent and work with them through it don't just hide it from them...
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Old 08-23-2005, 12:52 AM   #255
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It really amazes me that people think that Radio 1 is uncensored. Do a quick google. There is much more censorship in the UK than the US.
Not from what I've heard.


OK, we know the children are the future...blah, blah, blah. Can we please get this back on topic like Jayg27 suggested and stop with the parenting 101?

I still haven't noticed any censorship on Faction as of yet...thankfully.
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