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Old 08-22-2005, 11:47 PM   #31
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Oh...SWE03, compared to me you are liberal. A moderate is a lib whose afraid to admit it. Dont you know that! If you are for censoring Christian music, you are a liberal, plain and simple.
It would seem ntilly is the measure by which all things should be measured. If he/she hasn't heard of it then it's not mainstream and you are only conservative if you agree with him/her.
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It seems DanKnight is crazy. Anyone who thinks censoring Christian music can be called a moderate position must be communist.
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Old 08-22-2005, 11:57 PM   #33
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The main goal of Michael W Smith, Jars of Clay, MercyMe, etc. is to get you to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour TONIGHT! Which is fine, but I would prefer not to have to listen to that on a non-Christian music station.
I could name you songs from each one of those artist that aren't in any way them trying to get anyone saved. However, Christian music is to glorify JESUS and/or GOD even those that apparently don't step on your toes. If you prefer not to hear it then the solution if very simple. You reach over to your tuner and you change the channel, but why should the rest of us have to forgo hearing because you don't want too? You don't see any of us asking you to forgo the filth or whatever it is you want to listen too. When I hear a song I don't like or even don't care for the artist, I change the channel. Why is the so difficult for you folks?

Michael W. Smith, Bridge over Trouble Water... How is that trying to save you TONIGHT? I can go on, but I won't.

Hey guys, lets leave the politics out of this discussion... far too many of these good discussions get high jacked by being liberal or conservative or somewhere in between. Let keep this one clear of that... Thanks...
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DAB makes an excellent point. There is a lot of lyrics I dont care to hear and when one of those songs comes on i change the channel. Cant you do the same??

People get so offended over someone saying Jesus is the way. Is that offensive??? I dont see how. Especially for those of you who dont believe in him. I mean if hes not real then why are you hurt if someone says he is. If I told you Aliens are the way. You wouldnt care. But theres something about the name Jesus isnt there? Something that makes you go crazy to the point of switching satellite services because you might hear it once or twice a day. wow, people can get touchy.
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Switching satellite services isn't going to get them anything either ntilly.. because XM does the EXACT same thing that Sirius does, they play these cross-over Christian hits on some of their mainstream channels. Whoops.... There It IS!
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Bridge Over Troubled Water is not a Michael W Smith song; it is a Simon and Garfunkel song that Michael W. Smith covered.

And ntilly, I thought you were all for Sirius discontinuing Christian Urban station The Word. Does communist party membership not extend to those who want to censor Christian talk? For the record, if Art Bell was on Star Lite three times a day telling me that I must accept that aliens are the way, I would also be annoyed.
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Bridge Over Troubled Water is not a Michael W Smith song; it is a Simon and Garfunkel song that Michael W. Smith covered.
But you just lumped him in with a group of Christian Artist saying they only wants to get you saved, well by george tell me how he is trying to get your saved with that song, but so what if he was. If you don't believe then change the channel and move on. These artist also have to make a living, this is why they do these cross-over hits. Also Christain Artist don't get anyone saved... They just sing to the glory of GOD and GOD does the saving, which you evidently don't understand.

Last I heard people still have a choice about rather to embrace a religion or not, you are free to ignore those pleas, but these folks are free to make them. The other choice you have is to change the freaking channel. Is that so hard? You keep ducking the solution, cause the fact is you don't want it played at all. There are much bigger fish to fry than to get annoyed over someone asking you to accept Christ in your life. Much, Much Bigger Fish!
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Bridge Over Troubled Water is not a Michael W Smith song; it is a Simon and Garfunkel song that Michael W. Smith covered.
But you just lumped him in with a group of Christian Artist saying they only wants to get you saved, well by george tell me how he is trying to get your saved with that song, but so what if he was. If you don't believe then change the channel and move on. These artist also have to make a living, this is why they do these cross-over hits. Also Christain Artist don't get anyone saved... They just sing to the glory of GOD and GOD does the saving, which you evidently don't understand.

Last I heard people still have a choice about rather to embrace a religion or not, you are free to ignore those pleas, but these folks are free to make them. The other choice you have is to change the freaking channel. Is that so hard? You keep ducking the solution, cause the fact is you don't want it played at all. There are much bigger fish to fry than to get annoyed over someone asking you to accept Christ in your life. Much, Much Bigger Fish!
Well said DAB!! Those that don't like Christian music and the message are often the very first to tell others to be more accepting and open to other ideas, music and messages. It works both ways.....
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To reinterate, I said the main goal of Michael W. Smith was to encourage listeners to accept Jesus and be "saved." Since he spends the last part of every concert "saving" people, I think this is a pretty fair assumption.

No I don't want music that prostheletizes to be on a non-Christian station. Yeah, I can change the channel. But I can also encourage the company that provides the service that I pay for to continue to provide a service that I will want to pay for. Since Sirius already provides Christians with two Christian music stations, I don't think that asking them to confine Christian music that prostheletizes to those stations is too much to ask.

And before you accuse me of Christian bashing, I would say the same of Jewish prostheletizing, Muslim prostheletizing , or Alien prostheletizing. I know you don't think it is a big deal, but imagine you (as a Christian) had a Muslim knocking on your door twice a month at 10 a.m. saying that you had to accept Mohammad as the final prophet.
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I love these threads. "Fuck the FCC! I want my uncensored Radio!"

"Oh wait! They played a Christian song. Quick, censor that song NOW!"

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I love these threads. "Fuck the FCC! I want my uncensored Radio!"

"Oh wait! They played a Christian song. Quick, censor that song NOW!"

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Exactly!! You can't have it both ways.....don't like it? Do what I do, ignore it or flip. If a song can qualify to be a hit in whatver genre or even more than one, more power to it.
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Well said DAB!! Those that don't like Christian music and the message are often the very first to tell others to be more accepting and open to other ideas, music and messages. It works both ways.....
Did you miss the part where the author of this thread said he (or she, sorry) was a Christian? Or the part where I said I listened to Christian music?
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the rock and roll music that i listen to (i.e. 50s and 60s) has always had a few songs that are christian oriented.

tx already mentioned my sweet lord - although that has mentions of other religions as well.

"morning has broken" by cat stevens has become somewhat of a christian anthem of sorts - gets played in many churches. linda ronstadt's "we need a lot more of jesus and a lot less rock and roll" also comes to mind. peter paul and mary do a wonderful job of kumbaya. laurie london had a number 1 hit in 1958 with "he's got the whole world in his hands". the highwaymen had a number 1 hit in 1961 with "michael, row the boat ashore". the singing nun (an actual nun by the way) had a number 1 hit with dominique, although it was in french. the byrds had a number one hit with turn turn turn, which had bible references. ray stevens had a number 1 hit with "everything is beautiful" - with references to god's children.

christian lyrics in songs in country music is extremely common, as for years it was sort of customary for every country artist to put out a spiritual album. elvis also had a well-known spiritual album.

i am sure the rest of you guys could come up with many more examples, but these are the ones that come to mind.
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"I heard this yesterday and figured it was a fluke, or maybe it was because it was Sunday but I heard it again this morning and have now heard the same song played on both Movin EZ and StarLite.
Its a song called "Homesick" by "MercyMe" a christian rock band. "

uh, i listen to movin' ez a lot, and i've never heard this song on movin ez. you must've been listening to the wrong channel.
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I love these threads. "Fuck the FCC! I want my uncensored Radio!"

"Oh wait! They played a Christian song. Quick, censor that song NOW!"

LOL
A "christian" who thinks religious music shouldn't be censored but "pro-gay" music should is also quite amusing.
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