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Old 08-26-2005, 12:05 AM   #16
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The example I like to use is President Bushs campaign. I mean he reached out to the evangelicals and its because of them that he won. If they hadnt come to the polls Mr. Kerry would be President. plain and simple. What Sirius is doing is exactly what Pres. Bush did and they will be rewarded.
Yeah, and now they've saddled us with a president who is less popular than Nixon. Thanks evangelicals!! No one ever accused you of being rational.

Like Dan Wxman, I can't see how this is a smart move. There are so many Christian stations that I can't get a clear station to run my FM transmitter through. Most are non-commercial and run local church announcements, so I'm not sure their listeners will be that interested in switching to a pay service.
No need to attack the Pres. or evangelicals take your politics to the political forum...

You are wrong about the people not leaving to pay a service. Dude I dont know of any pure Christian rock station on fm. All u get on fm is southern gospel, gospel, praise and worship, and pop. Christian rock is hard to find on the radio dial. To make another point...people are interested in this new thing called satellite radio. And they have to make a decision between XM and Sirius. With this move by Sirius, the Christian community will favor Sirius. XM has as many Christian channels yes...but now a Christian does not have to debate over the sports or the Christian programming.(that is what I debated when selecting my sub. I choose Sirius when I found out it had my Kentucky Wildcats ) Now Sirius has both the sports and the Christian programming. XM just has the christian programming. Why would a Christian interested in sports pick XM over Sirius now? They wouldnt and they wont. Once again great move by Sirius you just wait and see.
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The example I like to use is President Bushs campaign. I mean he reached out to the evangelicals and its because of them that he won. If they hadnt come to the polls Mr. Kerry would be President. plain and simple. What Sirius is doing is exactly what Pres. Bush did and they will be rewarded.
Yeah, and now they've saddled us with a president who is less popular than Nixon. Thanks evangelicals!! No one ever accused you of being rational.

Like Dan Wxman, I can't see how this is a smart move. There are so many Christian stations that I can't get a clear station to run my FM transmitter through. Most are non-commercial and run local church announcements, so I'm not sure their listeners will be that interested in switching to a pay service.
No need to attack the Pres. or evangelicals take your politics to the political forum...

You are wrong about the people not leaving to pay a service. Dude I dont know of any pure Christian rock station on fm. All u get on fm is southern gospel, gospel, praise and worship, and pop. Christian rock is hard to find on the radio dial. To make another point...people are interested in this new thing called satellite radio. And they have to make a decision between XM and Sirius. With this move by Sirius, the Christian community will favor Sirius. XM has as many Christian channels yes...but now a Christian does not have to debate over the sports or the Christian programming.(that is what I debated when selecting my sub. I choose Sirius when I found out it had my Kentucky Wildcats ) Now Sirius has both the sports and the Christian programming. XM just has the christian programming. Why would a Christian interested in sports pick XM over Sirius now? They wouldnt and they wont. Once again great move by Sirius you just wait and see.
Actually, it was the right-winger who made this thread political.

Anyway so Sirius is now equal to XM in the Christian department...at the expense of what, the entire dance music community? This is a disgrace and a joke.
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Old 08-26-2005, 12:20 AM   #18
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I can live with the new lineup. But if in the future Sirius drops another music channel that I remotley like for another damn religious channel (be it christain, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, whatever) then I'll cancel. There are several christain channels and not a single 24/7 punk channel. They need to combine the christain music channels into 1 or 2 and make a punk channel.
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The example I like to use is President Bushs campaign. I mean he reached out to the evangelicals and its because of them that he won. If they hadnt come to the polls Mr. Kerry would be President. plain and simple. What Sirius is doing is exactly what Pres. Bush did and they will be rewarded.
Yeah, and now they've saddled us with a president who is less popular than Nixon. Thanks evangelicals!! No one ever accused you of being rational.

Like Dan Wxman, I can't see how this is a smart move. There are so many Christian stations that I can't get a clear station to run my FM transmitter through. Most are non-commercial and run local church announcements, so I'm not sure their listeners will be that interested in switching to a pay service.
No need to attack the Pres. or evangelicals take your politics to the political forum...

You are wrong about the people not leaving to pay a service. Dude I dont know of any pure Christian rock station on fm. All u get on fm is southern gospel, gospel, praise and worship, and pop. Christian rock is hard to find on the radio dial. To make another point...people are interested in this new thing called satellite radio. And they have to make a decision between XM and Sirius. With this move by Sirius, the Christian community will favor Sirius. XM has as many Christian channels yes...but now a Christian does not have to debate over the sports or the Christian programming.(that is what I debated when selecting my sub. I choose Sirius when I found out it had my Kentucky Wildcats ) Now Sirius has both the sports and the Christian programming. XM just has the christian programming. Why would a Christian interested in sports pick XM over Sirius now? They wouldnt and they wont. Once again great move by Sirius you just wait and see.
Actually, it was the right-winger who made this thread political.

Anyway so Sirius is now equal to XM in the Christian department...at the expense of what, the entire dance music community? This is a disgrace and a joke.
NEWS FLASH...the Christian community is a lot bigger than the dance community. Obviously Sirius wouldnt have deleted Remix if a lot of people listened. Now Im a dance fan too...actually disappointed in Remix leaving(would have rather seen Boombox go) but Im more than thrilled to see Revolution come. And trust me it will bring more subs than Remix ever brought.
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The example I like to use is President Bushs campaign. I mean he reached out to the evangelicals and its because of them that he won. If they hadnt come to the polls Mr. Kerry would be President. plain and simple. What Sirius is doing is exactly what Pres. Bush did and they will be rewarded.
Yeah, and now they've saddled us with a president who is less popular than Nixon. Thanks evangelicals!! No one ever accused you of being rational.

Like Dan Wxman, I can't see how this is a smart move. There are so many Christian stations that I can't get a clear station to run my FM transmitter through. Most are non-commercial and run local church announcements, so I'm not sure their listeners will be that interested in switching to a pay service.
No need to attack the Pres. or evangelicals take your politics to the political forum...

You are wrong about the people not leaving to pay a service. Dude I dont know of any pure Christian rock station on fm. All u get on fm is southern gospel, gospel, praise and worship, and pop. Christian rock is hard to find on the radio dial. To make another point...people are interested in this new thing called satellite radio. And they have to make a decision between XM and Sirius. With this move by Sirius, the Christian community will favor Sirius. XM has as many Christian channels yes...but now a Christian does not have to debate over the sports or the Christian programming.(that is what I debated when selecting my sub. I choose Sirius when I found out it had my Kentucky Wildcats ) Now Sirius has both the sports and the Christian programming. XM just has the christian programming. Why would a Christian interested in sports pick XM over Sirius now? They wouldnt and they wont. Once again great move by Sirius you just wait and see.
Actually, it was the right-winger who made this thread political.

Anyway so Sirius is now equal to XM in the Christian department...at the expense of what, the entire dance music community? This is a disgrace and a joke.
NEWS FLASH...the Christian community is a lot bigger than the dance community. Obviously Sirius wouldnt have deleted Remix if a lot of people listened. Now Im a dance fan too...actually disappointed in Remix leaving(would have rather seen Boombox go) but Im more than thrilled to see Revolution come. And trust me it will bring more subs than Remix ever brought.
Yea, thats why you have radio stations all over FM. We don't. Like that other person, it's hard for me to find a damn FM frequency for my transmitter because of all the Christian stations around here.
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Old 08-26-2005, 12:51 AM   #21
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. They need to combine the christain music channels into 1 or 2 and make a punk channel.
Or re-format Faction into 100% Punk.
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NEWS FLASH...the Christian community is a lot bigger than the dance community. Obviously Sirius wouldnt have deleted Remix if a lot of people listened. Now Im a dance fan too...actually disappointed in Remix leaving(would have rather seen Boombox go) but Im more than thrilled to see Revolution come. And trust me it will bring more subs than Remix ever brought.
I seriously doubt that. Maybe more than Boombox, but Remix was a VERY popular channel. I'm willing to bet this new Revolution channel is about as popular as Radio Korea.
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Sirius, over 125 channels, something for everyone- even Christians!! WOW!! Imagine Christians being allowed 6 channels out of 125!!! The nerve!!! What do these people think, that America is 85% Christian or something? What nerve they have!!! (turn the channel if you dont like it bozo)
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A lot of their programming choices seemed to be aimed at a younger crowd. Mostly these will be the people will be the ones to purchase satellite radio. The FM and AM bands to a GREAT job at gospel and hymns (like many have said) but not at christian rock. I dont know very many young people that are into gospel music (although im sure there are some). But, I do know more that are into christian rock.

As for paying for it, you only pay for the stations you listen to. If you only listen to 1 station, your paying $12.95 for that one station. Only if you listen to this christan rock station will you be paying for it. If no one pays for it, it goes.
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Six is way too many by my count. We're going to lose Remix, Wax, Slow Jamz, Swing Street, and Folktown to make room for channels like this. I'm sorry, but I have a huge problem with that....and I'm not the only one.

Believe me, I've listened to my fair share of Christian rock music (not by choice) and it was absolutely unbearable. I live in the bible belt and know plenty of devout Christians that cannot stand it either. Sure it has a message, but the music itself is horrible. I just don't understand the reasoning behind SIRIUS dumping perfectly good channels for this crap.
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Yea, thats why you have radio stations all over FM. We don't. Like that other person, it's hard for me to find a damn FM frequency for my transmitter because of all the Christian stations around here.

Ahhh... now I get it. If it is popular then then Sirius shouldn't serve the community. Maybe Sirius is trying to get some of those who are listening to all those stations on FM to move over to satellite radio! Sounds like a great idea to me.

Why would you jump all over this thread anyway? The stream is coming; you have made your disdain for any sort of overt christians, especially evangelical, very well known. I can understand if this was a thread titled "should sirius have another Christian music stream?" but this is just a discussion of the new thread which was already decided on. I really don't understand why you chose to post this unless it was just to "stir the shit."
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I'm reminded now of the wisdom of the ancient Masonic landmark (indeed it is considered absolutely critical by "mainstream" Masonry in order to be considered Masonic):

Don't discuss politics or religion in the lodge, as it can only lead to disharmony among brethren.
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Well, I find Howard Stern and Rap offensive... you have no right not to religion. There's a lot of stuff on Sirius the offends me. OutQ offends me (and before you label me anti-GLBTQ I'm totally genderqueer and considered transition for awhile but decided not to - their DJs are just awful though). I like the Christian stuff (but there's way too little). I like the kids stuff (though KidStuff has a terrible playlist and lack of personality and Radio Disney is overcompressed). I like Radio Korea. I like WSM. I like Elvis. I like The Beat.

Here's how I see it - ultimately you're paying for what you listen to since it all balances out. Think of it that way.

WHY add Christian music? One reason - I've been darn tempted to go XM despite the poor signal quality and dropouts in the mountains around here. The additional Christian music will probably "save" me as a customer. And I have a LOT of friends who'd get Sirius "if only it had more Christian programming".

Like it or not many Americans have faith in the Lord, Jesus Christ and we want our music as much as you want Eminem and Howard Stern.

I also find it offensive that you suggest that we should listen to Christian programming on terrestrial radio - well you should listen to rap on terrestrial radio. There's VERY LITTLE variety of Christian programming on terrestrial radio, and of course that's assuming you're even inside the coverage of terrestrial radio - my travels are largely outside the coverage of terrestrial radio.
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Amazing how these people are against censorship, unless they want to censor out religious programming..
I'm sure that you wouldn't be for a christian bashing station... why should I be for one that promotes it?
You know, no where in the Constitution are you guaranteed freedom FROM religion. You have no "right" to NEVER be exposed to hearing the word "God".
But if I choose to I have the right to not be bombarded with people who say I will go to some horrible place when I die simply because of my own belief. I've always found it to be so hipicritical, you have a right to your beliefs, but I am a horrible person because I have mine?

Sorry but I don't think that out of the over 125 channels I find enough that I listen to... I really thought there would be more variety and there is more talk and television channels than anything and that has been the BIGGEST dissapointment... and now I'm losing one of the few music channels that I enjoy for this!

Give me more variety and more music and I wouldn't care about this
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But if I choose to I have the right to not be bombarded with people who say I will go to some horrible place when I die simply because of my own belief. I've always found it to be so hipicritical, you have a right to your beliefs, but I am a horrible person because I have mine?
You certiainly have the rights to your own beliefs. And nobody's going to lock your Sirius radio on Spirit or Revolution. Change the channel. I don't like hearing athiests telling me I'm basically an idiot and wasting my time because of my faith, so I avoid those situations.

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Sorry but I don't think that out of the over 125 channels I find enough that I listen to... I really thought there would be more variety and there is more talk and television channels than anything and that has been the BIGGEST dissapointment... and now I'm losing one of the few music channels that I enjoy for this!

Give me more variety and more music and I wouldn't care about this
If you're really this unhappy with the service, maybe you should speak with your wallet and unsubscribe? I'm sorry to have to say that, but if someone's truly unhappy or offended by what they're paying for, it doesn't make sense to continue to pay for it. Are there good programs on HBO? Programs that don't offend me as a Christian? Sure. But there are so many that do offend me. I'm not getting the value I need out of my HBO subscription, so I cancel it. Sirius isn't the only source of entertainment or music out there: there are a gazillion internet-based radio stations, terrestial stations, XM, etc.

I'd hate to see anyone unsubscribe over this, but you could make your displeasure known by writing an e-mail or a letter. I will be writing a letter of support tomorrow. Communication is a good thing.

FWIW, I would love to see more diversity and variety on Sirius. I stated earlier I would be interested in Jewish talk and music. I don't like the fact that there are 17 rock stations and 3 or 4 jazz stations. Rock is whooping every other genre. I would love to see it evened out a little. If some of that included music or content I didn't like or found offensive, I would turn it off.

I support diverse content, even if it may be contradictory to my beliefs, because I would like it if others did the same. Sure, I make some outlandish statements at times, but I really want things like rap and hip-hop to stay around even though they offend me. Variety is the spice of life and the add/delete function of my radio is the Maalox.
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