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Old 11-01-2003, 07:16 PM   #31
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I too need to chime in with disappointment on their choice of stations that they are preempting.

Sirius Left was one of the top 2 reasons I chose Sirius. I see where the contracts to cover these sports is huge for Sirius, but preempting sirius Left every night is not the way to keep subscribers like me.
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I am certainly not downplaying the role of sports in Sirius' attempt to gain new subscribers, but it should not be at the risk of losing current subscribers. There has to be a happy medium somewhere. One of the reasons I purchased satellite radio was because I enjoy listening to talk radio in the evenings and my AM stations were constantly pre=empting them for sports programming. I like sports, dont get me wrong. I am a huge MLB fan, but I wouldnt be upset if every game wasnt streamed. We are not paying extra for the games (like we do on cable) so if there were only a select few played, I dont see where fans could be upset. I believe that they should select a random bunch of games and broadcast them on the sports and weather channels, then fine. And at some point down the road, if more bandwidth is available and more channels can be added without losing sound quality, then have them reserved for sports. Just my opinion.
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Old 11-02-2003, 09:19 AM   #33
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How do you know how many listeners Sirius Left has?

I guess we'll find out when they all cancel.

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Why cant they use the music channels for games? I bet if outq was used to play games, they would change it.
That would be comparable to sacrificing the golden goose. The sports will stay on the talk side where they belong.

By the way, OutQ has a huge base of listeners. Sirius Left and the other streams do not. Despite the outcry of the talk show fans, if Sirius thinks they can draw more listeners (subscribers) with live sports then they will do it.

It's a tradeoff and from my perspective a necessary interim solution. As the subscriber base grows you'll likely see decicated streams for sports and no pre-empting.

The Sirius experience really is more than just one or two shows. As disappointing as it is to not be able to hear your favorite talk show, there are so many other choices in music and talk.

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Old 11-02-2003, 09:23 AM   #34
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I think that Sirius should designate 7 more streams 'live sports' in addition to the 5 non-sports/non-weather. That would increase the rotation of where to put them.
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Old 11-02-2003, 11:01 AM   #35
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Detail, I use to do a little remote viewing but after my uncle died I lost my ability. Its only good for physical things, not talk shows. I use to suffer through strange things that occur with AM radio and fell in love with XM having it clean and also broadcasted in the afternoon at 1pm then 1am screwing up my sleeping sechudle.

What did you think about that show with Aaron Donahue? I asked him to remote view my problem with my body and he helped me to get on the right track. Never had any luck with Ed Dames.

I thought after Deriek and Romaine outq was in repeats? Once sofar my favorite show Mike Church has been interrupted by sports and many times my Hilly Rose and ole DL (David Lawrence).

Then again I am not a sports fan unless its NASCAR or NASTRUCK and i hate having channels full of men grabbing each other for some stupid rubber ball for hours on end. If "insert your sports here" were to run with no time outs or stopping the clock I may develop an interest but its too freaking drawn out. I remmeber in rehab when my AC broke and I went to the TV lounge to enjoy the AC and eat a snack from the machine. 2 blind guys were facing the tv listening to a sports game. I tried to get interested asking them about what i saw on the screen and they seem to enjoy some of the detail you cant hear. After the clock was up I thought the game was up. Turned out they run it in 15 minute blocks and they took several breaks at that. I told them I couldnt stand it and rather go someone without AC.
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Old 11-03-2003, 10:58 PM   #36
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I've read many of the posts here. Let me first say that I have both Sirius and XM Radio in my home and I love both systems. One of the main reasons why I went out and got Sirius was because of the NHL Hockey announcement. I like Music, Sports, and Talk Radio. I like it all. XM doesn't have much sports play by play coverage. I don't want to make nobody here mad at me but I do like sports. Those Sirius Left and Right Channels I just wonder if they can expand the sports channels to accomodate the sports play by play. I've noticed the weather channels are about the same broadcast on all 3 channels but they do use them for sports programming as well. Maybe they can do away with the spanish programming as a previous poster said? I like to listen to ball games but don't know what else Sirius could do. If only they had more bandwidth maybe to add more channels?
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Old 11-04-2003, 07:00 AM   #37
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They are NOT going to do away with the Spanish programming. Subscribers who subscribed for that reason WOULD not just be inconvenienced, they would CANCEL. The Hispanic market is a large market that is ill served outside the large metros.

The Spanish streams, like Classical Voices, are streams that few people like, but those who do RABIDLY love them. They are streams that those who do love them are willing to pay for. Like Wisdom, Bluegrass, and even dance programming, they are streams that are ones that are decision makers for some subscribers.

Drop Spanish programming? Not as traumatic as adding commercials to the music streams. But, almost!
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I am so glad to be seeing this discussed here. I thought I was going crazy. I too was an XM subscriber for over a year. I finally got sick of the 100% right-wing talk. I am a country music fan and they even slandered liberals on that channel. The straw that broke the camel's back was when the host Kilroy did an on-air rant in which he imitated killing what he called 'fags', 'queers', 'homos', and other degrading terms. It was one of the most shocking things I have heard on any type of radio ever.

I switched over to Sirius before they even carried OUTQ or Malloy. When I found out about Sirius Left, I was ecstatic. There are only two reasons I subscribe now, OUTQ and Malloy. You absolutely cannot hear this stuff anywhere else. I am on the road 24/7 due to my career and Sirius is a lifesaver. My other choice is regular radio which has hundreds and hundreds of Rush clones. I have picked up these Limbaugh clones from Montana to Georgia to New Mexico. It is truly sickening.

When I fist heard Malloy being pre-empted I was stunned. I called customer service and was told it would only be temporary. The next night the same thing. By the third night I was totally outraged. The customer service said they would log my complaint and because I only occasionaly have internet access I haven't emailed yet. I got the sinking feeling that the phone customer service were just humoring me and didn't really care about the complaint or log it.

Is there anything more we can do? I am so siriously disturbed by this. Yes, Malloy is a MAJOR reason for many subscribers. He cannot be heard anywhere else if you are on the road. I cannot imagine quitting Sirius because of OUTQ, but I have lost a lot of respect for them pre-empting Malloy. I guarantee there are other channels that should be pre-empted that either have fewer listeners or can be heard 24/7 on regular crap radio. Why doesn't Sirius customer service respond to these complaints? I love Sirius so much I would pay $100/month or more to receive the service. And that include Malloy.
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Old 11-05-2003, 05:27 PM   #39
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They seem to be pre-empting The Right and the Left political streams fairly equally, but I would like to see them pre-empt something else first. Hopefully they can figure something out to where they at a minimum pre-empt much less often.
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I bet they will do something about this because there have been a lot of us complaining about talk radio being pre-empted for sports. Thom Hartman mentioned on his show.. after several callers called in to complain about just this... that he was going to talk to the VP of programming at Sirius. Anyway he mentioned that the VP had said this is a temporary solution and that there will be changes in the near future such that talk channels will no longer be pre-empted. It sounded like they may be adding more channels, which given a hard limit on bandwidth, I am not totally in favor if.. but I suppose adding a few more channels for the purpose of sports broadcasting only wont be that bad.
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Old 11-06-2003, 09:04 PM   #41
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I am a newbie to the satellite radio thing. I picked up XM because I was interested in Sonic Theatre and U-POP. After enjoying the choices on XM, I started to look at possibly picking up a Sirius receiver for additional choices. I am having second thoughts because of this move that Sirius has made. I am not a big sports fan and even if I was, I would to root for my miserable Tigers and Lions. I would listen to my FM/AM stations for this. I think Sirius is trying to be everything to everybody and this is their approach in doing it.

I often fall out of the mood of listening to music and want to listen to some talk. Sports is not the talk I want to be listening to. I am taking a wait and see attitude to see if Sirius will listen to the fans before I pick up a Sirius receiver.
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Old 11-06-2003, 09:46 PM   #42
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I have called up customer service several times totally outraged. I've also emailed them. Is there anything else we can do? Some kind of organized protest or call-in? Sometimes they seem to be taking my compliants siriously, but I get the feeling the whole thing is being swept under the rug. Except for a few stations scattered across the country, Sirius is the ONLY damn source for Malloy. I have actually become somewhat physically ill since he's been cutoff. Every other choice out there is so right wing. Even some of the other shows are Sirius Left can't really be considered truly progressive. Malloy is such a rarity that it's totally unacceptable to have him pre-empted for shows that already blanket regular media.
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Old 11-06-2003, 11:17 PM   #43
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OutQ, try the weekday daytime programming on Sirius Left. Thom Hartmann and Marianne Williamson both host excellent shows during the day. Also you can listen to Malloy on if he is being pre-empted.

Anyway, Id have to believe with so many people expressing outrage over this, that Sirius will do something regarding this issue.
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Old 11-07-2003, 03:12 PM   #44
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Anyway, Id have to believe with so many people expressing outrage over this, that Sirius will do something regarding this issue.
Who says there are "so many people expressing outrage over this"? Don't confuse the miniscule sample of listeners represented on this web site with the real world. I could be wrong, but, my gut tells me that live sports attracts more subs than any talk radio. Your opinion appears to differ - that's life!
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Who says there are "so many people expressing outrage over this"? Don't confuse the miniscule sample of listeners represented on this web site with the real world.
That's the heart of the matter.

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